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Initial post: Jan 10, 2013 11:33:46 AM PST
I buy virtually all of my music digitally now as I don't really want CD's taking up more shelf space. I've noticed that all of the AutoRip CD's I've looked at so far DO NOT allow you to buy just the mp3 versions of those albums. I hope that doesn't become the norm. I'd much rather buy just the digital versions.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 12:42:24 PM PST
Okay, I've found that a number of the albums featuring AutoRip do allow you to just buy the mp3 album if you want. However, oddly enough, in many instances it is cheaper to buy the CD with AutoRip than to buy the mp3 album.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 2:21:04 PM PST
alysha25 says:
I've been looking at a lot of albums recently, and notice it can go either way. Sometimes the MP3 download is cheaper, other times the physical CD is a better deal. As for "autorip", I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. But personally I avoid the cloud at all costs. I choose to "Download to my computer" Not the cloud. Then I choose "open" and it downloads, sometimes taking quite a long time to download. Then it appears in media player, and I "burn" it to a CD-R disc.

I guess I feel better Knowing I have a physical copy on Disc. I used to like physical CD's. Still kind-of do. BUT I Always have too much Stuff! And am probably going to quit buying CD's. What is "CD with autorip". If I buy a CD I put it into my computer and tell it to Rip to my media player.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 2:30:06 PM PST
T. Anderson says:
auto-rip automatically stores an mp3 version to your cloud for "auto-rip available" cd's, in addition to sending you the cd.

"I choose to "Download to my computer" Not the cloud." actually, anything you've downloaded is in your cloud. even past purchases from before the cloud existed. it's great for a back up. i don't burn to cd's anymore. i download to put mp3's on my ipod, then delete them. with my iphone, wherever there's wi-fi, i can listen to anything in my cloud. now with auto-rip, it looks like this will include past cd purchases, as well. though, for now, it's only certain albums that amazon considers the most popular. i'm assuming they will keep adding.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 2:32:42 PM PST
T. Anderson says:
vernon- i don't know why the mp3 versions are more expensive. that seems ridiculous to me, since amazon basically has one digital version that anyone can download. it's not like physical cd's where they have many physical copies. although, i suspect the cd's are so cheap because they want to get rid of them in order to eventually end the cd era.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 2:36:08 PM PST
It is possible that some of the MP3 albums are more expensive because of contractual agreements or licensing agreements with the publishers/artists. AutoRip JUST came out today so some of their existing MP3 albums may still be under old pricing agreements. I'm just positing that as a possibility, I don't know that for sure.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 3:11:22 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 3:17:18 PM PST
MiBoDoCa says:
I hope it does become the norm so music can go back to being something tangible and not disposable!

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 4:39:11 PM PST
alysha25 says:
"T. Anderson says:

auto-rip automatically stores an mp3 version to your cloud for "auto-rip available" cd's, in addition to sending you the cd.

"I choose to "Download to my computer" Not the cloud." actually, anything you've downloaded is in your cloud. even past purchases from before the cloud existed. it's great for a back up. i don't burn to cd's anymore. i download to put mp3's on my ipod, then delete them. with my iphone, wherever there's wi-fi, i can listen to anything in my cloud. now with auto-rip, it looks like this will include past cd purchases, as well. though, for now, it's only certain albums that amazon considers the most popular. i'm assuming they will keep adding. "

When I buy a digital download, it gives me 2 choices, 1 is download to the cloud, the other is download to my computer. I choose the "download to my computer" choice. It May still be stored in the cloud, or in my purchase history though, in case I need to download it again. If autorip just came out today, I guess next time I download something I'll see if anything has changed.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 5:08:18 PM PST
T. Anderson says:
"When I buy a digital download, it gives me 2 choices, 1 is download to the cloud, the other is download to my computer. I choose the "download to my computer" choice."

but it still goes to the cloud, regardless if you download to the computer or not. things don't "download to the cloud." amazon just puts a link in your cloud so you can access the tracks on their server. every mp3 i've ever purchased is in my cloud, as well as some cd's i've purchased in the past now, thanks to auto-rip. i got an email today saying that 19 cd's i purchased (some several years ago) are now in my cloud. i have never had to do anything for those purchases to be there.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 5:49:41 PM PST
alysha25 says:
O.K. I do see the New "autorip" with physical CD purchase option now. I'm doing a digital download though, and that is same as always. I've never used the cloud. Well I've bought plenty of CD's though! I didn't recieve an E mail. We'll see if I recieve an E mail saying the same.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 5:53:41 PM PST
B L T says:
I was notified this morning of MP3 albums now in my cloud player of CDs I purchased starting in the summer of 2000 up until I stopped buying CDs about a year ago.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 6:16:21 PM PST
JP Toon says:
I'd buy a lot more music from Amazon if a lossless compression format was available for download.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 6:33:19 PM PST
B L T says:
alysha25, this notice is at the top of the cloud player page:

AutoRip update: due to high demand, we are experiencing delays. We will email you when we have added your music.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 6:52:09 PM PST
alysha25 says:
Oh I see, thank you BLT.

Posted on Jan 11, 2013 6:15:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 11, 2013 6:18:50 AM PST
Working Man says:
I am so excited about AutoRip. I just got a Kindle Fire HD and I was concerned about using up space on the device. I am now buying more CDs than digital downloads since the prices have dropped on CDs (cheaper than digital dowloads in many cases). So, now I have access to tons of my music on my Kindle Fire and iPone (via the Amazon Cloud app) without using up storage. I also have a large capacity iPod Classic with all my music. So, now I have access to all or much of my music on all three devices.

In addition, AutoRip went back to CDs purchased from 1998 so I got lots of stuff loaded.

Posted on Jan 11, 2013 7:31:37 AM PST
Wombley says:
I am highly skeptical.

MP3 sucks, sonically, and converting Auto-rip files to iTunes isn't worth the hassle.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 11, 2013 8:02:47 AM PST
B L T says:
Working Man

I'm excited to. I spent a fair amount of time yesterday downloading MP3's of the CDs I've purchased since 2000. All of the CDs didn't make it to MP3's, but it looks like most of them did.

Posted on Jan 12, 2013 1:35:51 AM PST
Personally, I started buying all my music in mp3 format because I was getting tired of having to find a place to store all of my CD's. Autorip serves no real purpose for me. The idea of having instant access to an mp3 copy of a purchased disc before you actually receive the disc is nice, but I can "autorip" my own CD's at home if ever I have the need too.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 12, 2013 12:59:10 PM PST
It doesn't need to become the norm, you can still buy CD's regardless of whether they offer the AutoRip service.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 12, 2013 1:02:21 PM PST
Who disposes of their digital music anyway? Besides, I don't need my music to be "tangible" to enjoy it.

Posted on Jan 13, 2013 4:02:50 AM PST
Working Man says:
I agree that physical media requires storage and that can be a challenge. I don't think AutoRip impacts anyone who buys digital media instead of CDs. The advantage is to those who buy CDs and buy them from Amazon. Since Amazon allows only 250 song to be added for free, I never bothered because it meant I had to chose 250 from 10,000+ songs. Now that a large chunk has been added to the cloud without counting against that 250 song limit it's become worth it for me to selectively add more songs to the cloud. I didn't even think about getting the digital files before my physical CD arrives. That's a great perk and another reason for me to continue to buy my CDs from Amazon. It's a feature that seems to benefit both the CD buyer and Amazon because it's a great selling point.

Posted on Jan 13, 2013 10:42:09 AM PST
alysha25 says:
***Working Man says:

I am so excited about AutoRip. I just got a Kindle Fire HD and I was concerned about using up space on the device. I am now buying more CDs than digital downloads since the prices have dropped on CDs (cheaper than digital dowloads in many cases). So, now I have access to tons of my music on my Kindle Fire and iPone (via the Amazon Cloud app) without using up storage. I also have a large capacity iPod Classic with all my music. So, now I have access to all or much of my music on all three devices.

In addition, AutoRip went back to CDs purchased from 1998 so I got lots of stuff loaded. ***

I have never used the cloud in this way, but now I can see the benefit of having access to all the music via the cloud, but not actually having it take up space on your device. Kind-of like the radio. I'll probably use this someday. I don't really have any experience with the cloud, except for I have been using the auotrip feature. But I've never used it to listen to music on a device without having it stored on that device.

Posted on Jan 13, 2013 12:21:56 PM PST
alysha25 says:
Here is one small beef I have so far with "autorip" (and also any mp3 download) - it sometimes rips in an order I don't like. For instance have "Doors L.A. Woman " 40th anniversary edition here. A 2 CD album. So instead of ripping to media player in order of the 2 CD's. It does this -1,1,2,2 etc. So song 1 from disc 1, song 1 from disc 2, song 2 from disc 1 , song 2 from disc 2. Depending on what songs they are (in this case alternate versions of the same song), the order can be kind-of annoying if you plan to listen to the whole album. It does this with a lot of double albums.

If I put the discs themselves into the computer and rip to media player I wouldn't have this issue. I Have renumbered song orders before but it's a pain!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 14, 2013 7:24:30 PM PST
I don't necessarily object to AutoRip. My initial concern was that it would eventually replace being able to simply buy the digital format by itself.
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