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Initial post: Mar 14, 2012 8:47:55 PM PDT
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Hinch says:
There have been many great artists and bands before and after The Beatles, but why do you think The Beatles were and are still so popular?

The Beatles 1 was released in 2000 and has sold over 31 million worldwide. Their 2009 box set of remasters has sold over 30 million units worldwide.

The biggest artists of today such as Adele, Eminem and Lady Gaga dont sell that many. Certainly popularity alone isnt always a sign of quality, but consistantly high sales and popularity for 40 to 50 years, and still running, has to have some significance in relation to quality. Millions of people worldwide think their music has quality.

Who are your favorites? How do The Beatles compare to other great artists who came before and after, and to those who influenced and were influenced by them. How does their solo work compare to their work as a band. Are there any artists who have not been influenced by The Beatles?

Posted on Mar 14, 2012 9:37:32 PM PDT
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I have always had three favorites:
The Rolling Stones , Beatles, and The Kinks. I used to like them in that order too.
Now I seem to think it's The Stones, Kinks, and the Beatles as a 3rd favorite. (Number #3 of many great bands!)
In regards to the early years, 1963, 1964, 1965, I think I preferred The Stones' work of that period to the Beatles, my personal tastes leaning to rhythm and blues more than Mersey Beat. I also liked The Animals, and Them the most when it came to the Northern English bands. (Correction: Them were Northern Irish)
I guess from the Beatles' Revolver period onwards, I started liking The Beatles' music as much as The Stones and other bands' records.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 9:46:41 PM PDT
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Joyce says:
Dear Bernard:
Hey! just wanted to say, I kinda agree with your statement....thought early stones were awesome, and although I did like the beatles in their early period, I think they were awesome in their mid to late period...basically, the weirder they got and the more out there they were, the better I loved them! Did also love the Animals and other british bands too, like, i don't know, like, perhaps the KINKS maybe???

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 9:52:42 PM PDT
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Dear Joyce
Just saying that when it comes to the UK 60's invasion bands, I liked rhythm and blues more than Merseybeat. So I like The Animals more than I do the Pacemakers, Hollies or other Northern bands.
I like an album like 12x5 by the Stones more than A Hard Day's Night, for example, just personal taste.

Posted on Mar 14, 2012 9:53:40 PM PDT
Joyce says:
Dear Hinch:
hey! so, are you here, or there?
love,
joyce
p.s. re: why do you think the beatles were and are still popular? maybe because they are awesome..... actually, they are, but I think it's because they had something for everyone, or almost everyone, and because they had 3 really really great singer/songwriters all in the same group, and one great intuitive rock drummer, John, Paul, George, and Ringo.......and lastly, because they were pretty much the first group to: a. write their own material and b. say that the rules are, there are no rules....they were very innovative, and very experimental, and just did what "worked", even if it had never been done before, or was unorthodoxed. To me, they were the first real "supergroup"......their music will always appeal.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:00:08 PM PDT
Joyce says:
Dear Bernard:
I know what you meant.....
re: the Kinks....no, i did NOT mean to say I didn't like the KINKS! So sorry about that! I re-read the post and, to my horror, I had left out the word "know", so instead of "did also love the Animals and other british bands too, like I don't like, perhaps the KINKS maybe???" it should have actually said:
"did also love the Animals and other british bands too, like, I don't know, like, perhaps the KINKS maybe???"
sorry about that!!! Major typo mistake!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:01:10 PM PDT
Hinch says:
My favorite 3 in the early days were The Beatles, The Animals and The Kinks. I also like The Rolling Stones later.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:04:55 PM PDT
Dear Joyce
I read your edited post, and edited mine, too. No problem!
As well as loving The Kinks, I do rate Ray Davies as pop's best lyricist.
I do agree with what you said about the Beatles' attributes, - song writing and so on.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:16:57 PM PDT
Joyce says:
Dear Bernard:
thanks for pointing out my (horrible) error! wow! don't know how I missed that one!
yeah, I think Ray Davies is a great songwriter, and I love his voice...not as melodic as some, but unique, and I think, quite pleasant to listen to....

Posted on Mar 14, 2012 10:29:36 PM PDT
Music Luver says:
Is anyone seeing Ringo in Niagara Falls this summer?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:32:48 PM PDT
Joyce says:
Dear Music Luver:
wish I could, but it's a little too far to me, unfortunately...I don't think he is coming very close to me this time...I think he may be coming to CA, but I think San Diego, which is a 10 or 11 hour drive for me, so..... If he adds dates, and comes to No. California, i will go see him...otherwise, i will probably have to pass......
love,
joyce

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2012 10:34:22 PM PDT
Hinch says:
Music Luver

Ringo will be here in Nashville on his birthday this year. I'm planning on going.

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Posted on Mar 15, 2012 12:02:53 AM PDT
Hinch says:
ok i got it

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Posted on Mar 15, 2012 1:37:36 AM PDT
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The Beatles have always been, are currently, and probably always will be my favorite band of all time. Their unique position and global appeal has been analyzed many, many times over, and yet it still cannot be neatly pinned down. It just *is*. I do know that their music cuts through ALL race, age, class, wealth, and gender lines. There is a mystique to them and their story that has taken on a mythic air.

The Rolling Stones may have been cooler. Ray Davies or Joni Mitchell may have written better lyrics in their prime. Led Zeppelin or King Crimson may have had the superior musicianship. Mariah Carey may have had more #1 records. But none of this makes any difference whatsoever. When you say "The Beatles", the connotation evoked by the very name is on an entirely different level to any other musicians of the past century. There's a cultural, spiritual, earth-shaking dimension to it. The music was absolutely central to this, but their reach extended into every area of life. They almost seem like the personification of life itself.

These words would make me look like an obsessive fanboy if I was talking about any other band. But it's The Beatles, so everyone knows what I'm talking about. Even those of you who may hate the band, know what I'm referring to here. That alone says volumes.

Posted on Mar 15, 2012 3:30:58 AM PDT
More than just a band, they were innovators. They probably were not the best band ever but they really changed the music scene in the 1960's and every generation wants to collect and hear their music so the 60-somethings, and then the 40-somethings, and now the 20-somethings are buying their CD's and listening to their music. Downloading their tunes is still in the distant future if ever. Every music lover no matter which genre he or she enjoys has heard of the Beatles. There are a lot of bands and singers out there that people love but not everyone has heard of. Not so the Beatles. They will live in infamy.

Posted on Mar 15, 2012 6:59:00 AM PDT
rokroller says:
In this video we see Sir George Martin, Giles Martin (his son), and Dhani Harrison listening to the mix of "Here Comes The Sun".

Suddenly Dhani opens the channel with the "lost solo guitar". And now, with the master track in the background, you can hear how it sounds in music.

That was George Harrison. A true genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RxdeqxF-U&feature=related

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 15, 2012 11:17:02 AM PDT
Hinch,

I saw Ringo last year aweek after his birthday with my lovely wife and those guys put on an awesome show. And that was a month after the McCartney concert, too. It was a good year...

Posted on Mar 15, 2012 11:36:38 AM PDT
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rokroller says:
on the previous thread there was some discussion about Abbey Road and many people thought that "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" was the best track on the record...don't know how many of you may or may not be fans of Motley Crue, but on the song Slice Of Your Pie" off of 1989's "Dr. Feelgood" album, at about 2 minutes and 45 seconds into the song they "pay tribute" to The Fabs by "lifting " the riff from "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" ...plus it's a dirty little song, lol!

Motley Crue - Slice of Your Pie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FNLu3HQWeo

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 15, 2012 12:08:29 PM PDT
Eddie H. says:
Hinch...This is a very complicated and involved question and people have written 700 page books to find out why The Beatles? Timing, the world situation at the time,immense talent...If their was a gun put to my head and the person asked me to name my top three favorite artists, it would be 1)The Kinks 2)Brian Wilson and 3 ) The Beatles...I know when I can sit down(not at work like now) this thread could be very interesting....will get back to it later...this could be a fun ride....

Posted on Mar 15, 2012 12:12:28 PM PDT
rokroller says:
when I was in college, I wrote a term paper hypothesizin' that The beatles were created by the CIA to distract America from the JFK assasination, even going so far as to enlist Ed Sullivan, who I maintained thought that The beatles were crap.

I got an A
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