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I heard Robin Trower in Walgreen's last night...


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Initial post: Oct 31, 2012 12:12:05 PM PDT
zlh67 says:
Is this a good thing?

Part of me went "Cool!" as "Bridge of Sighs" beats Air Supply or Kenny Rogers any day, but part of me felt like what was supposed to be a sacred experience enjoyed in your room, car, man-cave, high-school parking lot or local concert hall had been seriously marginalized.

"Forget "Muzak", the rock and rollers have grown up so we'll play some Who, Zep and Robin Trower to be sure they remain happy consumers!"

Much as I like Robin Trower, I couldn't get into it because... well, it was WALGREEN'S!!

Or am I too cynical?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 12:18:41 PM PDT
ED S. says:
Taylor swift's latest album "Red" is for sale at Walgreens. The old person in line in front of you who was picking up a perscription for her toenail fungus was 17 years old when "Bridge Of Sighs" was released. Perfect music for the clientele.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 12:19:50 PM PDT
Zaplightning says:
I'd say it's a safe bet that you're the only one in Walgreen's that knew the song.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 12:38:59 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 12:54:22 PM PDT
zlh67 says:
I would think Walgreen's is way too big in the retail industry to have a store just piping a radio station to its customers. They don't know what "offensive" song might be played or when a commercial for a topless bar might come on, etc. I was there about 15 minutes and did hear 2-3 other pretty darn good songs, though I can't remember what they were at this point (I'm obviously old enough to be in Walgreen's target demographic and have the bad memory to prove it!). The Trower stuck out just because that's not as mainstream as the other tunes and it wasn't "Day of the Eagle" or "Too Rolling Stoned", but the epic title track instead!

But I didn't hear any DJ or commercials, so I'm betting it was some muzak type service or something similar that specializes in classic rock for the 40-55 age group or something. Seemed cool at first, then I realized what a different environment that sterile Walgreen's was compared to my older brother's bedroom where I first heard "Bridge of Sighs" back in 1975 or '76 and it made me a little sad and a little irked. Guess I'm gettin' grumpy in my old age....

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 1:00:34 PM PDT
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AlexMontrose says:
Yeah, I noted they don't usually play radio stations in any Walgreen's type store but they slipped one in on a compilation CD.

Not a bad job if you can get it. Making different CD's for different age groups throughout the country. Maybe some old radio programmers are working for a few of these Muzak type companies.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 1:08:32 PM PDT
zlh67-Back in the 70s Trower was a staple of San Diegos rock station 101.5 KGB. Now they play his music once a year if that. Just be glad you got to hear some Trower and go see him next time he tours. The good old days are getting farther and farther away.

Posted on Oct 31, 2012 1:14:27 PM PDT
I've been hearing a lot more classic rock piped into stores these days. The baby-boomers have gotten older and are the one's with the $$$.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 1:26:03 PM PDT
Fischman says:
Exile's spot on--those of us who were teens when Robin was at his peak are now old enough to need meds!

Posted on Oct 31, 2012 1:26:47 PM PDT
Forty years from now there will be a lot of little old ladies in nursing homes with piercings, and tatoos. And they'll probaly be playing the Stones on the intercom.
John

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 2:00:50 PM PDT
Lighten Up says:
If that's the way you feel maybe you shouldn't go to Walgreen's. I've never been in one.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 2:27:49 PM PDT
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E. Dill says:
@zlh67:

Cynical shmynical....

I'm no more cynical about who plays what in public places than I am what label is stiffing us for the most money compared to all of those owners who did it all for art back in the 60's.

Look, when I'm in a store looking for specifics or just looking, I appreciate any listenable music I can get. I remember a time when it was understood that anything pipped thru their radio or tape system was going to be pre-rock "old people's pop". (For you who STILL don't know, LOTS of GREAT music has been made for the past 40 years or so and it's called pop....just a different KIND of pop. Call it power pop or dream pop or art pop.....it's NOT easy listening pop unless you're only into hard rock/heavy metal.) So, if I go into, say, a local Goodwill, looking for used books and old records (no used underwear, though) and they're piping in some classic 50's doo wop, I'll probably stay a spell longer. And, of course Robin and his era would do just fine, selectively speaking. I mean, I don't expect anyone to like only what I like (even I don't always expect to like what I like) so I'll let an REO/Styx "classic" to get by without a run for the exit. A couple like that and they've probably lost a customer but recently it hasn't happened. They've gone to all this 50's stuff and whoever the compiler is, awhopbopalula to you, too.

Now about all of these owners from the 60s and 70s who only wanted to make our musical lives a little better....

ed.

ps. I like Walgreen's, with or without Trower. Do they still sell drugs there? In Cleveland, back in the 70's, a local chain (I think) Cunningham's revolutionized our "drugstores" by opening 24 hours and it wasn't opened that long for prescription drugs. No, that part was closed. They were opened so if you wanted a bag of chips and a cheap ass stereo system and a box of disposable underwear and a Gentleman's Quarterly magazine and a yo yo and a deck of cards and a malamar, no one could say, sorry, it's 3 o'clock in the morning. Hell, I did some of my best Xmas shopping there way past midnight on Christmas Eve. I remember buying 12 pet rocks for all of my good friends once. A great place. Can Walgreen's top that, even with their "Bridge of Sighs". I think not.

ed. (defending and attacking Walgreens simultaneously)

Posted on Oct 31, 2012 3:15:11 PM PDT
mac says:
Anytime or anyplace you can hear Trower, life is good.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 3:20:37 PM PDT
Sometimes an employee gets to hijack the public address system in the store and he/she will stick on a favorite CD and overrride the musak that is normally piped in there. Consider yourself lucky zlh67 as this doesn't happen too often these days. Did you purchase a lottery ticket?

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Posted on Oct 31, 2012 4:54:17 PM PDT
E. Dill says:
@werranth413:

Oh, so you're an Air Supply fan, too. Great. How good Billy Joel seems to sound now with Air Supply in the running. No wonder you run to the classics and essentially stay there. Although they often bore me, I'd take an hour of Beethoven (skipping all the boring parts) than 15 minutes of Air Supply (they're ALL boring parts).

@zlh67:

<<Tell us why it's better>>

And DONT try one of those "it sounds better" things like I did. Werranth won't stand for it. In her world of the "classic classics", sound is a peripheral. I'd bet that W. has already analyzed their "greatest" work and can give many technical reasons about their musical compositions (can you call it that without being pretentious?) that would simply blow "Bridge of Sighs" out of the water. And, being from a classical background, W.'s not used to the pretensions of rock music. Bridge of Sighs indeed. If Ludwig or Wolfy wanted to depict a "Bridge of Sighs", figuratively or literally, they'd damn well know how to make those sighs come off the page. (Remember, the page is everything. Sound is an intangible. The written note lives on.)

Ah, yes. The pot calling the kettle pretentious.

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Posted on Oct 31, 2012 7:56:46 PM PDT
Working Man says:
I would have been happy to here Robin Trower in a store, Walgreen's or other. Whether it's in a tv commercial, doctors office waiting room or Walgreen's, it all fine with me. I am so over the 'sell out' thing, I am too tired to care about that crap anymore. If I walk into a store and I hear "Day of the Eagle" instead of "Justin Beiber" then it's okay with me.

It's our time (what's left of it) and we should enjoy it. When we were young and the music was cool it would never had been played in such places, instead it was our parent's music. Now it's our chance. I enjoy hearing it in movies, tv shows and anywhere. Why not? I say, good for Walgreen's. I hope it's playing the next time I walk into Walgreen's.

Posted on Oct 31, 2012 8:04:49 PM PDT
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doodah man says:
I work with this lady, she's got to be 75, frail, hunched over, big thick glasses. She told me a few months ago that she had just gone to SEE Robin Trower in concert. I just shook my head.

And speaking of getting older, Hey, know how u get HEARING AIDS?? From aural sex!
((Ba-da-boom!))

Posted on Oct 31, 2012 8:44:58 PM PDT
doodah man says:
I work in a Seventh Day Adventist facility, pretty conservative one could easily say, and the other morning I'm in the cafeteria getting breakfast, and I hear the muzak version o"Miracles", by Jefferson Starship. Now if only those old conservatives knew of some of the lyrics in that song....

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2012 9:54:57 PM PDT
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E. Dill says:
@werranth413:

<<I wonder if you think everyone can "hear" what you hear. 57 years now? Who else who listens to your favorites can say that?>>

I haven't a clue who can "hear" what I hear. I know there are lots of people who like some of the things I like but I'm sure they often do so for different reasons. That would be of great interest to me. We liked the same music and for completely different reasons.

BTW, I got a bit confused about the "57 years now" and then realized you are probably using it because I have, marking the year I began to listen to music not for little children (those little yellow records)....if I truly gave up the nursery rhyme records at 8, I'd now be going on my 58th year of listening to the things I listen to....pop, rock, jazz, international (world), country, blues, classical, etc. It's been a great show and it continues unabated.

I could care less about someone/anyone preferring Air Supply to anyone else, including one of my favorites. There is no actual reason why I think of Air supply as being inferior. Actually, I don't. Inferior to what? I don't judge music that way....I was playing with you and doing it much less serious that the many remarks you've made to me and others which made it clear that what we listened to and enjoyed was for uneducated morons who didn't know any better. I don't feel that way at all. At least not seriously. Everyone is entitled to enjoy the music of their choice without some busybody trying to convince them that they're an idiot for their lack of taste and/or knowledge in what they SHOULD LIKE. Air Supply music would chase me away but my Captain Beefheart albums would do the same for them probably.

Actually, I'm glad you came to the defense of AS. Why? Because for those rockers who began to feel inferior after listening to you dismissing them for their lack of breeding, they now know that all of your education will conclude with Air Supply coming up with well written songs, ALL cleverly written and unique on paper....if it's sound they want, AS delivers....Yep, for those few that you'd almost convinced that you had knowledge that made music more alive than us uneducated mortals, you've given them a brief glimpse of "werranth world", where Air Supply writes clever and unique songs on paper.

I'd surely want to ask you the same question. I wonder if you think everyone can "hear" what you hear? Maybe it's that you are essentially uneducated in pop/rock music. Maybe your own prejudices against that music makes you find music that meets your own low expectation of it.

Personally, my expectations of classical music are not low in the sense of badly written. I frankly don't know what that means. I love most of Dylan's lyrics, yet don't consider myself a big lyric person. I'm sure you could dissect a movement of a symphony that I find boring and show me that it really isn't....it's full of wonderous invention and complexities galore. And I'd STILL find it boriing. Other movements I might enjoy immensely but it wouldn't matter to you. I liked it without knowing WHY I should like it. And I rejected that other part that I had no right to.

It's so easy to see where we are at with this nonsense. I still wonder if less than half of the classical music audience prefers other music to it...using it to get that REAL burger instead of that McDonald thing. So if I'm right, why am I? Because people, even musically educated people, want to enjoy music without dissecting it? Maybe. Then again, I know people who love classical music and never seem to dissect it. They listen. They enjoy. Dare I say, they FEEL the music. Unfortunately, for you, they'll probably continue on, listening to and enjoying music like little children instead of like serious minded educated adults who can still make some time, after all the slicing and dicing, to enjoy the sound.

Ah yes, the sound. With the right drugs (if I still indulged, that is), I could probably mellow into some Air Supply.

Nah.

ed.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 1, 2012 6:56:42 AM PDT
zlh67 says:
werranth413 - I'm not sure if it's me, ed or anyone else making you "feel" like you're smart enough so much as it is that you're just not. Or it would at least seem that way...

Why is Bridge of Sighs "better" than Air Supply? Well, no music is TRULY "better" than any other, right? It's all subjective, so unless we're talking sales figures or something quantitative like that, pretty much everything discussed in these forums is opinion. For my tastes, I like rock/hard rock better than light-weight gummy pop, so to ME, Robin Trower's worst album is probably going to strike me as better than Air Supply's most sublime pop masterpiece.

You're of course free to disagree, but to me, when I walk into Walgreen's, a party or even the depths of hell, it's a little bit better if Robin Trower is playing instead of Air Supply.

Chew on that awhile and see if you feel any smarter.

Posted on Nov 1, 2012 7:38:05 AM PDT
B L T says:
Talk about a sacred experience being marginalized...

I saw a JCPenney TV commercial last week during prime time that was playing "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" throughout the ad.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 1, 2012 8:05:52 AM PDT
E. Dill says:
@zlh67:

Remember, when werranth talks disparaging about Robin, she's mocking the name of the album as being pretentious. She hasn't a clue who he is or what he sounds like. He could be the next hot zither player for all she knows.

At least I've LISTEN TO Beethoven, Bach, Brahms, Mozart, etc. before I criticized them and actually I've never really criticized them. I've only suggested MY listening preferences. Over the long haul, I'll take my chances with an album by, say, Anthony Braxton (I chose him because I wanted someone who does extended instrumental works) than Ludwig. It's not a crusade, it's only in the listening. I'm sure I can find pieces and parts of a Beethoven symphony that I'd get a similar rush as I do from Braxton, but there I go again with that "feelings" crap. I guess I'll never graduate and mature enough to realize that the feelings that well up inside me when listening to "great" music should not come from the sound of it but the structure of it. I should get chills down my spine from the genius it took to compose it with all of its intricasies. THAT is, I'm guessing, the thrilling/feeling aspect of classical music at its best. Children just want to listen......like me.

ed.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 1, 2012 8:17:16 AM PDT
@B L T:

I'm most likely from a different generation, but I had a similar experience watching a Budweiser Super Bowl commercial that used "She Sells Sanctuary" .... and to add insult to injury, an inane rap was laid on top of the music!
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