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Initial post: Dec 1, 2012 2:03:29 PM PST
T. Smith says:
Who's finished the book? Who wants to discuss it?

I loved it. But one thing I'm not sure about, is the parasite in Harry the same as the disease that infected Maeve? The disease is even referred to as a parasite, once. (I think Lily or Maeve says it) Is that what Harry is fighting?

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 11:18:53 AM PST
Hi T. Smith. Glad you started this thread. I'm not positive it's not the same parasite, but I'm pretty sure Mab would have known if Harry were infected by the disease, just as she knew Lea was and more recently, Maeve. I remember back a few books when Lea was being tortured by Mab. It showcased the whole "Mab is crazy" theme. Now we know it was necessary to get rid of the parasite...and suddenly Mab isn't so crazy anymore.
I think Mab knows about the parasite in Harry because she and Demonreach convinced it to keep Harry's body alive while his spirit was wandering through Ghost Story. Now we know why Harry's been plagued with awful headaches through most of the books. I wonder if it's something from Lash. She was a great character...I read that she'll be making a reappearance at some point.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 11:27:14 AM PST
Bitchie says:
I started this, but it's been so long since I've read the earlier books in the series, I've forgotten a lot, and am considering doing a series re-read.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 12:07:17 PM PST
T. Smith says:
I know a lot of people were speculating after Ghost Story that the parasite was Lash. Could be.

What about Cat Sith? I hate to think he's gone forever, or if he comes back he will still be infected. I really got to where I liked him.

And how cute was Toot-toot and Lacuna?

And poor Molly. But I have a feeling she's going to get into her new role. Or atleast I hope so.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 1:11:32 PM PST
Cat Sith is such a dynamic character, I hope his page time is not over. I was under the impression he was possessed by the enemy (Nemesis?) rather than infected by the parasite. Harry kept telling him to fight, that he could overcome the possession, but he couldn't...bummer. I'm hoping to see him again in the next book.
Molly as the Winter lady...wow, what a shocker! And she was being underhandedly groomed to be the Summer lady. What bad luck to have been saddled with a lady's mantle period, but how amazingly lucky to get Winter so she'll be with Harry, not Fix. Molly's a survivor and she's strong. I think she'll be a great Winter lady. And now that Mab seems be rational and her mentor is the Winter Knight, things aren't as bleak for Molly as I originally thought when I first read it.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 5:09:38 PM PST
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I was stunned by the reboot.

The outsiders are the big bad.

And I wonder if all sidhe are former humans. Where does the Sidhe army come from... the one guarding the gate. Are they born or made? We know they die.

ETC changed elf to sidhe

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 5:35:53 PM PST
T. Smith says:
I wondered about where all the sidhe's come from too. But I did read somewhere a bit of a hint in that Toot-toot is getting bigger. But even if little faires become big fae, that just doesn't seem like it would produce enough to sacrifice to war like they do.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 6:07:28 PM PST
And a guess about the Gray Council's goal. They know about the outsiders and don't want them coming through.

And I wonder was is Harry's obligations as the Island Warden? Is he supposed to capture big bads and keep them in jail?

So many questions.....

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 6:56:34 PM PST
T. Smith says:
I'm wondering if The Grey Council was formed because The Merlin is infected?

Posted on Dec 3, 2012 3:44:33 PM PST
Vinity says:
LOVED Cold Days! I still really want Harry and Murphy together. That back off was a disappointment.

Pretty stunned about Molly.

My feeling on the parasite was to immediately think of Lash...but then that connects those guys with the outsiders?

Toot-toot and Lacuna are absolutely fabulous. My only thought is the size difference. Isn't Lacuna normal size? Why is Toot getting bigger?

Posted on Dec 3, 2012 3:56:06 PM PST
T. Smith says:
I think I read that Butcher hinted that Toot-toot was getting bigger because he is getting more powerful. I think the comment was along the lines of "Where do you think the Sihde come from?". Can't remember where I read or heard that though, so take it with a grain of salt. And I thought Lacuna was bigger then the rest of her army. Hmmm... have to go look.

I did love the closeness between Harry and Thomas. When they were standing there calling each other names, you could just feel the love. I think it is great that Thomas is back as a great ally for Harry. I was so upset when he went evil again for a while.

I don't think the 'parasite' in Harry has anything to do with the 'disease' from the adversary. I'm thinking it is something totally different.

Posted on Dec 4, 2012 8:13:47 PM PST
Vinity says:
I just have to say, I'm so happy. I got my signed copy of Cold Days yesterday :) I love Dog Eared Books

Posted on Dec 8, 2012 3:54:06 PM PST
T. Smith says:
Was discussing this book with my brother today and he mentioned a scene and I hadn't really thought about it too much. But when he was going to interrogate Lacuna even after she surrendered under Winter law, and he said sometbhing like "I didn't agree to any Winter Law"..... and he lost the Winter Knight mantle. If you think abou it, look what happened. He lost control and feeling below his waist. So pretty much, if he isn't the Winter Knight, he still has the broken back? I figured Mab fixed in exchange for him agreeing to be the knight. I never thought she would just 'cover it up' so he can operate like it isn't broke. Bummer, because my hope that one day he will figure out a way out of being the knight doesn't look too good.

Posted on Dec 9, 2012 4:29:27 AM PST
Yes, T. Smith, that's what I got out of that scene, too. If Harry shuns Winter law and loses the mantle, he's crippled...at least the threat of that was made clear to him. I think Mab would end up killing him if he rejected Winter, though. But look at it this way, it'll only make the next book that much more awesome because we know Harry has to somehow figure out how to get free AND be whole. It's just Jim Butcher's imagination is so superior to ours, we'll never even come close to how it plays out, and therein lies the angst.

Posted on Dec 12, 2012 9:02:25 PM PST
T. Smith says:
I was talking about this book with my son tonight and he said that in an interview Jim Butcher said that by the end of the series Harry will have broken all the laws of magic. Hmmmmm.... He already broke the one about killing a human with magic.

And two other things in the book stood out for me. More then one person referred to Harry as 'starborn'. I seem to remember hearing that term before, but I don't recall Harry actually being called that. And Harry seems to be hearing a lot lately about how he has grabbed the attention of something or someone. But no explaination of who or what has taken notice. They never say it like it is a good thing.
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