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Initial post: Nov 27, 2012 7:00:34 PM PST
Finger says:
All of my components for my new build are ready, with the exception of a GPU. I've been debating between a 650ti and a 660. Unfortunately I'm not very well versed in GPU technicals (cuda cores, pipelines, and such mean nothing to me). I'm hoping someone here can advise me based on my needs:

Overocking, SLI, multi-monitor support are unimportant to me. I'm way too lazy to do any of that stuff. I'm looking for a good GPU which will let me play games at reasonably high settings, and that won't need replacement for at least a year, longer if possible. Being able to max out super-intensive games isn't a big deal. Reliability, quality and reasonably cool running are important.

I've seen an EVGA 650ti 2GB on newegg for around 160. The gtx 660 cards seems to run about $75 more. Is it worth the extra cost? Will I notice much difference, given my needs?

In case its important in the decision making process, I have:

Intel core i5 3570k
Msi Z77 Mpower motherboard
16 GB RAM

Thanks for any feedback.

Posted on Nov 27, 2012 9:30:52 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 27, 2012 9:31:16 PM PST
in my opinion, i think you're better off spending an additional $70 and getting EVGA's Superclocked 660 2GB instead especially if this is for gaming. contains an exceptional overclock out of the box, the default memory frequency found in the reference 670/680, and a higher bus interface.

Posted on Nov 27, 2012 9:31:52 PM PST
Sudeley says:
I would go for the 650ti, from what I have read the TI is the higher end of the nvidia line up. I have a gtx 560, but i looked it up the TI version is decently more powerful. So I would not pay the extra $75 personally.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 5:34:29 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 5:37:03 AM PST
A 660 is quite a bit faster than a 650Ti. Like, almost twice as fast in some games at 1080p.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-benchmark-gk106,3318-19.html

I'd certainly go with the 660 if it's within your budget. Trust me, it saves you headaches later to get the best card you can afford now instead of upgrading more often.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 5:36:49 AM PST
Use www.hwcompare.com and select the two cards.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 5:46:32 AM PST
I prefer real-world comparisons to theoretical benchmarks that are based on things most people don't even understand.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 5:51:58 AM PST
It gives you a good idea of how the cards are built though and explains a few of those "things most people don't even understand".

;)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:33:21 AM PST
Finger says:
Thanks for the suggestion, I took a look at the site. Even though I don't understand what they're talking about, fortunately I do understand a simple bar graph! And just for kicks I also compared the 660 to the 660ti. The gap between the 660/660ti seems far smaller than between the 650ti/660.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:37:31 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 8:15:53 AM PST
Finger says:
You're probably right. Better to go with the best one I can afford rather than mess with it again later. If I can get a good quality gtx 660 I probably won't regret it.

EDIT: And now I see that Frys has the MSI gtx-660ti on sale for $269 plus a $20 mail in rebate. That brings the price into tempting territory. A hundred bucks more than I could get away with if I went for the 650ti, but only $40 more than a 660. Decisions, decisions...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 9:20:05 AM PST
Iso says:
I would hold off for a bit for a really good sale. I just barely got a 7870 OC 2gb for $185.

Also, look into the game bundles as well. Far Cry 3 looks to be fantastic, and that comes with all of the 7000 series. Nvidia has a few with free copies of AC3, so that might be tempting as well.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:29:59 AM PST
Finger says:
Sounds like you got a terrific deal. I wouldn't normally mind waiting for a sale, but have everything else here and ready to build. A few days, I wouldn't necessarily mind. I'd thought I could find some good deals on or around Black Friday, but no luck yet.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 10:40:27 AM PST
I wish they still made HD6950 2GB cards, myself. I got mine for ~$170 a while back and unlocked the shaders + overclocked it to basically make it an HD6970. I'd love to get another for CrossFire, but they're stupid expensive now for that very reason.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:42:00 AM PST
Are you signed up for Newegg's emailer? They had a few GPU deals throughout the weekend.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:54:29 AM PST
Finger says:
No, I'll do that. I've been looking pretty regularly over the past few days, but wasn't sure which to choose from.

I'm also not sure which specific manufacturers to choose/avoid or why. Many of them I'm unfamiliar with (zotac?), but MSI and EVGA seem very popular and well-rated.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:04:19 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 11:04:36 AM PST
Ah, the best sales are in their emailer through promotion codes.

MSI and EVGA are popular. So are ASUS, Sapphire, and a few others. I like XFX because it has a lifetime warranty and good resale value.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:18:02 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 11:18:29 AM PST
Iso says:
I thought XFX got rid of the lifetime warranty though?

slickdeals.net

Wait a couple weeks, and you will be able to save some big money...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:22:46 AM PST
Maybe they did. I bought my card a few years ago when it was offered.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 12:13:48 PM PST
H. Le says:
I don't remember exactly when, but XFX did do away with the lifetime warranty. They now offer a 2-years warranty.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 2:11:52 PM PST
Gomb says:
I just bought your exact same CPU and mobo combo (180$ Fry's deal I assume?), and I went with the $250 evga 660ti 2gb for a few dollars more. The tomshardware 'Battlefield 3' comparison shows the 660ti hitting 89 FPS where the lesser Nvidia models give much less performance and the equivalent ATI cards completely tank. This card does include a free copy of Assassin's Creed 3, but I already hit level 50 in the PS3 version so that doesn't matter much to me. I am really building this machine more for Chivalry Medieval Warfare, Battlefield 3, and DayZ. Considering the powerful proc and motherboard you got for an insane price, I would recommend you shell out the $250 and get that evga 660ti so are guaranteed at least 60 FPS for any game for a few years without overclocking. Bear in mind that the 3570K is not built to be overclocked and if you got the MSI Z77-G43 motherboard like I did, that budget circuitry barely allows any extra voltage to the processor anyways so we will be limited to stock performance on that.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 3:17:31 PM PST
Finger says:
No, I didn't get the G43 motherboard. I got the 'Big Bang' Z77 Mpower. There was no combo deal for it when I went there, just a $40 rebate. And I think the 3570k is intended for over clocking, though I've no idea what the limitations on the CPU might be (I don't know anything about over clocking, never done it before). I didn't see a combo anything like the one you described, but good for you striking a good deal.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 4:14:53 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 5:06:56 PM PST
Gomb says:
Oh wow ok, if you got the Mpower you have a motherboard that is several steps up from the one I got. With that unit, I think you get two PCI-e 3.0 slots and heavier circuitry to allow for over-clocking. If you go with an 850w or higher power supply you could buy a lesser AMD or Nvidia video card now and then buy a second of the same card later when they drop in price and SLI/crossfire them to keep up with the latest games. That is not an option for me since my MSI 77-G43 only has one PCI-e 3.0 slot, which is why I went with the more expensive 660ti card now.

Posted on Nov 30, 2012 8:29:27 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 30, 2012 8:40:17 AM PST
Iso says:
Heads up, Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N660OC-2GD

$200~ after rebate, really good deal IMO.

Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHZ OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card (11199-03-20G)

Neck and neck with the 660 (not including beta drivers increase of 15% on FPS so this should be slightly better) $214.99 AR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127707

222, but comes with AC3.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

230, comes with Far Cry 3

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 30, 2012 8:33:04 AM PST
Sudeley says:
If i was going up updrade i would go for the nvidia so i have the choice of software 3d.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 30, 2012 8:41:18 AM PST
Iso says:
Eh, personal preferences. Just giving some pretty good choices I think. These are about $20-$30 more than the best deals I have seen, but not a bad idea to buy now.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 30, 2012 9:16:27 AM PST
Sudeley says:
Yep thats why i said i would buy. Others like the radeon. My backup pc and my daughters pc have radeon but my main laptop is nvidia and radeon so atm my non gaming laptop has radeon so atm i am 50/50
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