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Posted on Dec 27, 2012 11:10:46 AM PST
Paul. says:
To address your topic - though I don't know anything about Crysis specifically -
Yes, FPS on PC is not easy.
And so long as the game developers do it correctly (meaning, keeping it challenging on PC, no matter how they dumb it down for consoles), that is how I hope it will stay.

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 12:39:06 AM PST
A. Mcgrady says:
Well the game runs a heck of a lot smoother, and looks better on pc. Those enhancement do not go away just because you plugged a controller in. Theres no shame in it, most games these days on pc are set up for both and it is a very seamless option. Most games just know you have a controller hooked up and the instructions change it's pretty cool. Max payne 3 plays better on a controller. Using a controller on a pc is like having a bad ### console that runs games very smoothly. Just try it, I dont like MKB controls and have just given up on them entirely. I only use mkb for RTS and MMos obviously. But I hate MMOs anyway.

Posted on Dec 26, 2012 7:40:06 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 26, 2012 7:40:43 PM PST
FPS games on PC are extremely easy to do. in fact, because the keyboard layouts to every game are nearly identical in every aspect, regardless of genre, your fingers fall in place just right. after that, you'll be forgetting you even have a keyboard underneath your hands.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 9:06:35 AM PST
John Galt says:
I've never played Doom3. I'll give it a shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 9:05:30 AM PST
John Galt says:
Thanks for the comment. I can reach it while keeping my fingers on W and A, but I have to concentrate on it. My fingers are not used to remaining glued on the WASD keys. I'm sticking with the F key for melee. It is much easier to slide my finger to the adjacent key than lose the time finding the T.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 9:45:08 PM PST
Shanghaied says:
I would recommend Doom 3 as a great FPS to get accustomed to the keyboard and mouse, here's why:

-Simple game that focuses on shooting with fewer indirect actions (things that don't involve you shooting stuff, like flashlights, crouching, etc.)
-Lots of focus on close range fighting where each shot counts, yet uses guns that are forgiving in the aiming department (shotgun), without using auto-aim.
-Single players FPS where pacing isn't fast and the game isn't extremely difficult; helps you get used to the controls without causing too much frustration.
-Encourages you to switch weapons frequently during fire-fights, which is an important intermediate skill for any PC FPSer.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 6:55:16 PM PST
A. North says:
you must have tiny hands because the T key is easily within reach of your left hand (and leaving W and A covered to keep moving)

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 3:34:25 PM PST
John Galt says:
I changed the keys around like many of you suggested and it is getting easier. Crysis has Q and E for leaning right and left- at least for me they are the most useless movement keys in the game. Scrolling the mouse wheel for weapons works well.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 11:33:55 AM PST
N. Stevens says:
Practice practice practice.

If you can stay open minded enough to practice with the K/M combo without wishing you had a controller in your hands (and don't get consistently destroyed all the time - makes it hard to stay in the zen), you'll be good, and I would say it's way better. ESPECIALLY when your gameplay performance is good. (For example, on my laptop, k/m kinda sucks; the games aren't smooth enough for it to be responsive. Also, there's the issue of my mouse not being that great, but honestly, the higher the system performance on any given game, the less you'll notice this (in my experience)).

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 6:12:59 AM PST
Agreed! I love doing on-the-fly headshots with K/M. It feels like cheating when compared to using a controller.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 5:17:38 AM PST
For most new gamers, 15 tiny buttons on a mouse are overwhelming. Not to mention extreme overkill for FPS games...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 2:51:49 AM PST
just use razer naga, its a mouth that has 15 more keys to click, but its practical easy to get, just search it under amazon

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 2:09:40 AM PST
gamerkilla08 says:
I was the same as you my friend. I built my first PC and tred Crysis, I was terrible. Very hard to get used to the controls. But I found out that there are three games you should try that are free and dirt cheap to get used to the controls. They are really highly rated games too.

First, try Team Fortress 2. It is free and it will get you accustomed to the controls.

Next, try Left 4 Dead 2, it is similar to team fortress 2 but this game requires more quick reactions and it will improve your skills greatly.

Lastly, try borderlands, it has the aim down sights and by then you should be used to the controls and movements.

Hope this helps.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 10:47:21 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 10:49:04 PM PST
Lone Wolf says:
It all depends on what you're used to. I can't play a FPS on the PS3 or Xbox to save my life (I do well at sports & driving games though) but feel very natural playing COD or Crysis on a PC. As a matter of fact, I feel like the mouse & keyboard give me much more precision when it comes to aiming or moving around the battlefield than a controller would. So I always go out of my way to buy the pc version whenever possible. But you younger fellas, on the other hand, are the complete opposite of me.

As far as melee or switching weapons on the pc goes, I use my mouse wheel for all that. Try changing your control settings & see how that works for ya.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 6:47:49 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 6:48:03 PM PST
Shanghaied says:
You WILL get destroyed in any FPS where the players using K/M are even half-way decent.

Using Crysis 2's MP or SP as a benchmark as to whether your controller can hack it in online play isn't doing anyone any favors.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 1:16:19 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 1:16:39 PM PST
Yeah that's the thing. It takes a while to remember in your head which buttons you're using all the time and which buttons you hardly use at all. A lot of the time, half of the buttons around the WASD keys by default are non-essential functions and need to be changed.

I also use 'E' for crouch. I use 'R' or sometimes 'Q' for the action button depending on that particular function in-game.

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 12:41:45 PM PST
John Galt says:
I didn't even think of using the number pad on the right side of the keyboard- that is so much better than leaving the WASD keys to select a different weapon. The default leaves F as the action button but I hardly ever have to use it. I agree with changing that.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 12:32:59 PM PST
I use 'F' for melee.
I use my right thumb on the right side number pad for switching weapons.

After you get used to a PC for FPS, you cannot go back to using a controller. It's not even close.

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 12:16:58 PM PST
John Galt says:
I didn't even consider auto-aim as a reason for my poor aiming. Scrolling through weapons with the mouse wheel sounds easier than pushing the 1,2,3, and 4 keys.

I've played about 5 hours of Crysis now and I'm getting better. I'm still terrible, but I'm improving. The highlight of my game was when I found the option to turn off the suit's voice- the repetitive comments can really kill the mood. Thanks for the comments.

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 10:41:09 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 2:39:55 PM PST
Crysis 2 isn't exactly a "twitch" shooter, though. The SP wouldn't be bad, and the MP could be doable. I wouldn't expect a controller player to top the scoreboard against M/KB players very often, though.

And I'm 100% positive someone with a controller would get dominated in a game like this against M/KB players:
Feel free to try it, though. Let me know how it turns out.

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 10:18:28 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 10:19:51 AM PST
I have the 360 Wireless controller and I played Crysis 2 SP & MP and did very well. Don't believe all the Hype that you will get destroyed if you use the Controller. I used to think this and after I started using the Controller (Without Aim Assist) I was still getting kills and having fun. I just use the FPS Freek nubs and I do just fine. I suck with the M/KB and play ALL games on my PC with the 360 Wireless Controller. I finished Crysis 2 SP with no problems.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 10:09:34 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 10:14:19 AM PST
I got mine at a yard sale, of all places. It was $10 and brand new, still in the box. Someone got it for their kid, and he's a lefty. So it went into the closet until the community yard sale where I got it for a steal. That was about 4 years ago, and it still works great. The black coating has rubbed off on the W and "jump" keys, but everything still functions exactly the way it should.

I need to get a replacement "just in case," though.

I still have an older Zboard (with the detachable keysets) lying around, but it isn't the same. Typing on it was pretty rough, and sometimes I had to unplug it to switch keysets or it would go all kinds of wonky.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:56:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 8:57:09 AM PST
Rockhardly says:
I had the ZBoard MERC Stealth as well - it's my "spare" now. :D

I remember spilling a Coke on it once - and I nearly called 911. Panicky - I took the thing apart, washed each piece seperately, dried it out, and held my breath when I re-connected it. It worked, thankfully.

This was in that weird transition period where the SteelSeries Merc wasn't available yet (and I didn't know it was going to be available), and the ZBoard MERC was tough to find - so I thought that if that keyboard died, that was the end of it. I got the SteelSeries MERC Stealth the instant I saw it in a store just to make sure I would always have one.

So, I'm spoiled too. It's an awesome keyboard.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:33:58 AM PST
I have the ZBoard MERC Stealth, from before they were bought out by SteelSeries. Awesome keyboard. I can't go back to a standard one, now. I'm so spoiled.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:20:53 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 8:22:13 AM PST
Rockhardly says:
Something like this might help you:

SteelSeries Merc Stealth Gaming Keyboard

I use this keyboard, and it's worth every penny.

Regarding the mouse aiming - you'll just have to get used to that. You have a lot more precision with a mouse/keyboard - which can be daunting to a console FPS player who is used to auto-aim.

I got Borderlands 2 for my PS3 after being primarily a PC gamer, and had a really tough time with FPS controls on a console. When I play on console, I feel less like I'm actually controlling the character and more like I'm just "suggesting" how he/she should move. The auto-aim keeps you from developing the need to actually get the thing you're shooting within your sights.

Last night, I was playing BlOps2 and a console guy showed up (I know this, because he kept announcing that he should have gotten the game on console, but he wanted to try PC). He was very vocal about how hard it was to play on PC - we were trying to give him help, but he eventually got frustrated and left. He was easy to spot on the map, because he would just be standing out in the middle of everything, and you could see him slowly aiming around trying to hit people. I assume that's how I look to another console player when I play FPS games on my PS3.

Anyway - I wouldn't give up on PC-FPS. Once you get the hang of it, you'll see that you have 1000% more control over your experience and playing an FPS on a console will feel like playing Super Mario Brothers with heavy gloves on.
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