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Initial post: Mar 9, 2012 4:20:41 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 9, 2012 4:21:14 AM PST
http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida-boy-killed-neighborhood-watch-seeks-arrest-044537742.html

"Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat...As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person...Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said." --reuters

interesting story to say the least. i think the guy should have at least been taken in, since there was a dead body. maybe he was taken in, i dont know.

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 4:23:56 AM PST
ET says:
I think he would have been more than "taken in."

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 4:25:13 AM PST
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Posted on Mar 9, 2012 4:29:43 AM PST
ET says:
The must be more to this story.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 4:43:32 AM PST
DCSports says:
There is. The report on yahoo last night was a lot more complete. The neighborhood watch guy called the police, then began following the guy from a distance while waiting for the police. According to that article, the teen confronted the neighborhood watch person, and started a fight, during which the neighborhood watch guy ended up firing his weapon. The police had interviewed the neighborhood watch guy three times, and were presenting the case to a grand jury to determine whether it was self defense.

I'm not defending either person at this point, but it is very obvious from stories like the one above that there is 'more to the story'. Many have details, I think, purpously omitted in order to make it appear more shocking.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 5:48:20 AM PST
Happy Geezer says:
How correct you are.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 5:58:06 AM PST
Magna Carta says:
By making the story more shocking, you get more rage, violence and name calling. This was known by both Stalin and Hitler......no truth, but shock!

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 5:59:58 AM PST
C. Batty says:
Yeppers, if we let people on airplanes carry guns no one would ever get shot over stupid stuff.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:03:56 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
Why did a neighborhood watch guy have a gun anyway?
Why did he follow him?
Overall it sounds more like the teen thought the guy was going to attack him so he fought with the guy and in the fight was shot.
That would be manslaughter and the guy should go to jail.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:05:18 AM PST
Those extra details don't make it any less shocking to me. If someone was sneakily following me down the road I would have a bone to pick too.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:05:59 AM PST
He took the life of a child, I think they should throw away the key!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:08:27 AM PST
DCSports says:
And you would go up and attack the person? Or run to a house and call the police?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:10:16 AM PST
Magna Carta says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:12:51 AM PST
I would confront them, and not nicely. I would want them to know I am not one to be messed with. Is this wise? No, of course not, but it is what I would do (and have done) in this situation.

In Turkey several years ago there were some young men following me and my friend to our hotel. I had on solid wood wedge shoes so I took one off and waved it at them as I shouted for them to back off and stop following us.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:14:08 AM PST
DCSports says:
Those are probably good questions which should be included in the reports. Other good questions would be if the neighborhood watch person identified himself, or was given a chance to. We should have higher standards for journalism.

The articles do agree that he followed the person because he thought the person was suspicious, and wanted the police (whom he called) to be able to locate the person. The police encouraged him not to -- concerned for his safety.

Do you really believe it's OK to approach and assault someone because you think they may assault you? If that's in fact what happened, it does support the neighborhood watch person's case for self defense.

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 6:14:24 AM PST
Black teens get shot everyday, the left only cares if the shooter is white - not THAT is racism

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:15:15 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
It depends on how close they were and if I was close to my house.
Maybe the teen didn't attack the person, maybe he just confronted the guy and then they fought.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:16:44 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
Actually it doesn't.
If you assault a person and they fight back, you can't claim self defense when you kill them.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:17:09 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
Oh go away, you have to be one of the dumbest people on here.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:19:28 AM PST
With a gun.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:24:21 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 9, 2012 6:25:25 AM PST
DCSports says:
OK -- I think if the young man would have done that, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation though. Perhaps we should require all people walking through a neighborhood to wear wedge shoes.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:25:30 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
And we probably wouldn't be having this conversation if he was white.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:27:51 AM PST
DCSports says:
That's not what alegedly happend. If you are attacked, and you pull out a legally carried firearm and the assailant ends up dead, wouldn't that be self defense?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 6:29:01 AM PST
DCSports says:
That's true. It would not have made this type of headline.

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 6:29:12 AM PST
The shooter would be in jail if the kid was white, and no one would care if the shooter was black -
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