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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:29:02 AM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
Mark, keep on denying reality and reading the Huffington post.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:30:38 AM PDT
Eagle Eye.

Do you think that perhaps a state implements gun laws because the state is having problems with gun violence?

Its the chicken and egg thing.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:40:09 AM PDT
Happy Geezer says:
No

It is socialist fascist rabble rousers that work to disarm innocent folks who only want to defend themselves when necessary.

If they were concerned about violence of any type they would go after violent folks rather than the innocent.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:48:33 AM PDT
I own a gun so I can defend myself from fascist right wing militia men type if it becomes necessary.

I was just interjecting that places with high gun crime, like detroit, NYC, baltimore, DC, etc might try to tone down the violence via state laws. That there is much more behind the statistics than first meets the eyes.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:53:05 AM PDT
Be careful posting facts or the NRA may put you on their enemy list.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 10:53:53 AM PDT
Hard to argue that the U.S. is not concerned about violent folks when we have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 11:11:16 AM PDT
Happy Geezer says:
That is true. The crimes that are averted by folks being armed are neither publicized or counted by media, government or the disarm America group.

The best count we have is that 2 million crimes are not committed each year because potential victims protected themselves. Had they depended on law enforcement the crime would have been committed before the law could get there. It is better to stop crime than to clean up after.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 11:12:04 AM PDT
Happy Geezer says:
What is the % of non-violent offenders in our jails.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 11:13:39 AM PDT
Agree it's way too high, due in great part to the War on Drugs.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 12:52:54 PM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
No I think most states that have rigid anti gun laws the anti gun lobby was the driving factor.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 12:53:51 PM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
Hey my facts support the NRA.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 12:56:36 PM PDT
Oh yeah, you're right.

My bad.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 1, 2012 12:44:25 PM PDT
A lot of street gangs in Montana? Alaska? There no major American cities in the states with low murder rates. get outta here.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 1, 2012 1:09:23 PM PDT
Murder rates per 100,000 population vary widely among American cities with populations greater than 250,000, from 0.8 to 40.5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 5:19:54 PM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
Then gun laws aren't the problem, innercity crime is the problem! So what is your answer mr Gun control? Why not do what Rudy did in New York to lower the murder rates, it worked there it should work in any big city!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 6:15:36 PM PDT
seajaw says:
In how much of that inner city crime is a gun involved?

Posted on Jun 2, 2012 6:17:11 PM PDT
Dichterliebe says:
Which party has been in control of Detroit since the 1960s?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 7:08:26 AM PDT
Which has been in control of New York, where crime has steadily fallen?

Making these kinds of issues into pure Dem vs. Repub is wack.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 7:16:31 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 7:33:18 AM PDT
How true.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 9:54:59 AM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
How much good has strict gun laws done in the inner cities?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 10:17:29 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2012 10:17:42 AM PDT
seajaw says:
Not as much as they could, if guns were not so easily accessable.

With gun shops all over the place, and people having so many in their homes, that only increases the possibility of gun-related incidents.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 10:41:50 AM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
When will people get it through their heads laws don't stop the bad guys from doing anything? Only honest people are going to obey them. The antigun crowd keeps calling for more and more restrictions on guns but no matter how many laws you make those who will do harm are not going to obey them. Example (Murder has a death penalty I don't think you can get much more strict than that but has it stopped murders)? Not by a long shot! You say "if guns were not so easily accessable" that my friend is a pipe dream! Guns wills always be accessable to those who are willing to go outside the law to get one.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 10:46:19 AM PDT
Eagle Eye says:
"With gun shops all over the place, and people having so many in their homes, that only increases the possibility of gun-related incidents."

EE: With liquor stores and bars all over the place there should be more DUIs but there aren't because most people are responsible, the same with gun owners.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 10:50:44 AM PDT
seajaw says:
And when will you admit that the easy access to guns just makes them more available to lawbreakers?

And more likely to result in accidental death, too, when someone leaves their gun out where a child can find it.

Yes, it puts the onus on the owner to secure that gun. But it also assumes that owner will do it.
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