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White and wrong: On the reservation with Elizabeth Warren


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Posted on May 3, 2012 5:28:31 PM PDT
2/2 Tango says:
The Cherokee are known as "white Indians" - their greatest leader, Seqouya, told his people that they had two choices - assimilation or annihilation.

The first white men (not counting Vikings) to reach Western NC and Eastern TN (ancient capitol of the Cherokee) were Scots and Irish. They came from a society based on clans - just the way the Cherokee society was structured. Most of these men came there without wives and married Cherokee women.

It is true that many people who had ancestors in that area during the 1700s and 1800s do have Cherokee ancestry, myself included. If you go to Cherokee, NC and ask, you will find full tribal members who have blonde hair and blue eyes, with the proper documentation to prove they are at least one-quarter Cherokee.

Another great Cherokee chief was John Ross, who was 3/4 Scot and 1/4 Cherokee.

Posted on May 3, 2012 5:17:45 PM PDT
but do they use it to advance their wealth and power, as this nitwit did?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 5:11:26 PM PDT
Katrina says:
Kathleen.

I think most families that trace their kin back to the Gold Rush and the Land Grab, claim 'Indian' heritage. You always hear about some 'Cherokee' ancestor somewhere, weaved in with other stories Grandma tells the grandchildren. We got 160 acres on the Columbia River. (course, that was 150 years ago. now all we have is a cemetary marker)

Posted on May 3, 2012 3:58:10 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 3:19:54 PM PDT
I live in an area with very active Indian reservations. Some of these tribes are quite prosperous and innovative. Two of our local tribes actually own huge amounts of timber land.

My sister-in-law is part of that community. She is proud of her heritage.

Of course, most of us, including myself, claim some native American genetics, but mine is so watered down that I would never claim it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 3:05:06 PM PDT
ET says:
I had a dear friend who spent a couple of years chasing baptismal and burial records trying to prove Indian heritage for college funding. In the end, I think she was 1/8 shy of the golden percentage.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:54:25 PM PDT
liberal atheist -- have you tried READING the opening post?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:51:59 PM PDT
Katrina says:
Kathleen.
Teasing.
My nephew went reseaching around Oklahoma for a month to 'prove' his cherokee heritage. Had something to do with his job with the Government. I think a better prospect for promotion, or maybe just more money. (he never found any 'documentation')

A lot of pioneer families claim 'Indian' heritage.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:51:35 PM PDT
What IS it with these Obamabots!?!?!?

Obama made up his girlfriend.
Liz made up her ethnicity...

Can't these people TELL THE TRUTH?!?!?!

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:35:49 PM PDT
I miss W says:
According to Professor Halle Berry, the one-drop-rule rules if it helps get you what you want.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:35:20 PM PDT
ET says:
Some people also claim minority ancestry when taking standardized tests. They claim the scores are better when they do.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 2:32:43 PM PDT
ET says:
Obama went to private schools too. Don't be naive enough to fall for his rhetoric of "poor black boy."

Posted on May 3, 2012 1:41:57 PM PDT
Cant everyone find 1/32 or 1/64 or 1/128 of something to label themselves a minority?!?! Where is the cut off in the liberal world? Now all the proof you need is to say someone had high cheekbones "Like All the Indians Do". That is a direct quote that came out of her big mouth.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:29:04 PM PDT
VRWC says:
"Only because they like to get to know other, less fortunate, snowflakes."

Like Harvard law professors....

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:27:15 PM PDT
Ze'ev says:
Yup just like Martha Coakley.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:21:41 PM PDT
Sorry, I have no idea what you are referring to.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:20:48 PM PDT
My sister-in-law is retired on disability. She still contributes what she can to the world within her physical limitations. I know nothing more about her financial affairs. She is a well-read interesting person with unique attitudes from her mother's cultural background. Those unique traits just simply pop up occasionally. She is also a very good cook.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:16:15 PM PDT
freedom4all says:
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In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:13:27 PM PDT
Katrina says:
I hate to sound cynical, but, I'm thinking there's some 'Casino' money involved here? Maybe oil? Fracken?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:08:54 PM PDT
I miss W says:
But not for personal gain! Only because they like to get to know other, less fortunate, snowflakes.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:06:58 PM PDT
Ryan S. Hupp says:
So God is Orson Welles in this scenario?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:06:50 PM PDT
VRWC says:
But some snowflakes.... for purposes of college and job applications.... pretend to be 1/32 Cherokee...

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 1:04:52 PM PDT
I miss W says:
We are all individual snowflakes drifting in the snow globe that is life.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 12:49:46 PM PDT
VRWC says:
Well, I am anti affirmative action.... but I'm REALLY anti white people claiming minority ancestry for purposes of scamming the affirmative action system....

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 12:45:47 PM PDT
I am not comparing my sister-in-law to anyone else. She is a unique individual as she is.
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