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Posted on Jul 18, 2012 5:34:49 AM PDT
Boomy says:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-says-texas-battleground-state-soon-203701290--abc-news-politics.html

Texas in play for Obama in 2012??

Blue in '12?

How many Representatives will the Dems pick up in '12 from Texas?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 10:37:08 AM PDT
Boomy says:
That money has not hit the economy. It is sitting in bank vaults and is not being leant for several reasons such as there is no demand for capital because there is no expectation of growth.
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So when the money hits the economy it will be like a big "stimulus"...hmmmn.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 10:28:32 AM PDT
*Well that makes no sense at all does it? Peak gas prices under Bush II about $4.40 a gallon - if we have had massive inflation under Obama we'd now see $8.00 a gallon right? The price of oil under Bush II and Obama? Same story. Where are you going with this?

In addition to comodity prices going up we have an artifically inflated value of the stock market. The reason why gas does not reach 8$ is that market will not bear that price. That money has not hit the economy. It is sitting in bank vaults and is not being leant for several reasons such as there is no demand for capital because there is no expectation of growth. Part of the reason why there is low borrowing is that no one know what the return on investment will be taking into account possible massive income tax increases and the the unknown costs of Obama care not that it has been made legal.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 10:14:38 AM PDT
PHogan says:
YAYAYAYAYAYAY....don't let the door kick you where the sun don't shine........I just wish you would have left sooner and taken Georgie boy with you.......

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 10:03:40 AM PDT
The Weasel says:
Joseph M. Creaney says:
*Total BS JMC -- complete garbage -- Hey where's that 100% inflation you "money printer" conspiracy theorists have been promising since 2009?

It is reflected in comodty prices and fuel. But recent numbers show that the fed was buying 47% of the debt.
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Well that makes no sense at all does it? Peak gas prices under Bush II about $4.40 a gallon - if we have had massive inflation under Obama we'd now see $8.00 a gallon right? The price of oil under Bush II and Obama? Same story. Where are you going with this?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 9:01:19 AM PDT
Yeah, it wasn't them. Agree not all reservations fit that description.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 17, 2012 8:55:52 AM PDT
*Total BS JMC -- complete garbage -- Hey where's that 100% inflation you "money printer" conspiracy theorists have been promising since 2009?

It is reflected in comodty prices and fuel. But recent numbers show that the fed was buying 47% of the debt.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 5:47:27 PM PDT
2/2 Tango says:
arpard:

Then you should have gone to the Mescalero Apache reservations at Cloud Croft and Ruidoso of you wanted spectacular beauty.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 2:42:17 PM PDT
I do not know.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 2:40:46 PM PDT
Is he any relation to Ted Nugent?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 2:39:40 PM PDT
The people of Texas could turn our ultra-corrupt political system on its head if they ushered in a new Populist Movement by electing someone like Thomas Lewis Nugent, who had studied for the Methodist ministry, and who was almost elected governor of Texas. According to http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fnu02 :

"Nugent came in third behind James Stephen Hogg and George Clark in 1892, when he polled 108,483 votes or 25 percent of the total. The People's party renominated him for governor by acclamation in 1894, and he lost to the Democratic candidate, Charles A. Culberson. His poll of 152,731 votes, or 36 percent of the ballots, made the People's party the major opponent to the Democratic party for the remainder of the 1890s."

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 12:58:05 PM PDT
The Weasel says:
Joseph M. Creaney says:
*You Texans really suck at math. If Cali stops paying federal taxes you have lost the isngle largest contributor state vs the tax money that is disbursed from the Fed - so your taxes would ALL go up.

No state really matter in taxes because the government spends 40% more than it takes in. So if they can't tax it or borrow it they just print it...
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Total BS JMC -- complete garbage -- Hey where's that 100% inflation you "money printer" conspiracy theorists have been promising since 2009?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 12:29:09 PM PDT
*The worst place I have ever seen in the U.S. hands down was a Native American Reservation in New Mexico. Not the Hopi or Navajo ones. I forget the name.

That was a place devoid of government involvment...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 10:45:50 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Well Green River was almost as nice as Rock Springs.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 10:27:21 AM PDT
No. I realize that Green River is just west of Rock Springs but we did not get off the Interstate. Rather, we drove on through to Logan, UT. Another forgettable place is Lovelock, Nevada. it is about 100 northeast of Reno.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 10:23:27 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Did you go through Green River too?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 10:19:44 AM PDT
This was in summer 1993. I have one distinct memory. We were driving through the downtown. I was expecting the typical rural, western downtown. What I saw was dilapidated buildings, crumbling sidewalks, and more potholes than I could count. Even the government buildings and retail stores looked like something out of a ghost town. Having lived in Idaho and nevada for the past 34 years, I know something about ghost towns.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 10:08:37 AM PDT
Boomy says:
I drove through there...the trailers didn't seem SO old...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:26:37 AM PDT
The worst place I have ever seen in the U.S. hands down was a Native American Reservation in New Mexico. Not the Hopi or Navajo ones. I forget the name.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:24:08 AM PDT
You mean the white people are all tanned?

Posted on Jul 16, 2012 9:22:28 AM PDT
I do not aim to slam El Paso or West Texas. Rather, I am simply pointing out it's lack of perfection. No city is perfect. SHG225, tells of a place of zero crime, infinite wealth, and peace. Well, El Paso is not that and neither is Chicago. Claims of superiority have been greatly exaggerated.

On another note, the most rundown place that I have ever been is Rock Springs, WY. Most of the town gives you the impression that they have not built anything new nor maintained their buildings for fifty years.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:20:53 AM PDT
*You've just picked three of the nicest places in the U.S to make your comparison. In other words, you've stacked the deck. You could say the same about most other areas of the country in comparison. El Paso is no worse than a lot of other places and better than some.

I forgot what was the whole deal with El Paso? I have been to some places in Texas that are worse. Killeen was a real winner and I think that Walkeegan had El Paso beat by a great deal. The reason why I went there was they had a great game shop and was a meeting place for all kinds of gamers. Finding people who can play real board games is a challenge. I don't mean Sorry and Risk...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:17:17 AM PDT
*No it's not. It has rundown areas and nice areas. The crime rate is low. The people are friendly. It's warm and sunny in the winter. The Mexican food is fantastic.

You have that right, great food. Not just Mexican. There are great steak places, as well as several German places even a decent Greek place.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:15:03 AM PDT
Those were just places that I picked to prove a point. The other poster was painting a picture of bliss where crime is almost nonexistent and the environment is one of relaxation. Hence, those two places. If El Paso is so great then why would it bear close resemblance to those two?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 9:14:40 AM PDT
*Well, statistics do not agree with your sentiment. I have been there as well. True, my only experience was stopping at a gas station just of Highway 85. The area surrounding the gas station reminded me of Sun Valley, NV. In other words, I could tell which direction the wind was blowing by where the piles of trash in the yards were located. I am sure it is a decent place to live but I was not impressed.

There were piles of trash in Mexico but it was not a problem in El Paso. It was a nice place to live most people were very friendly. Costs were low. The weath was harsh and I was often dry hot or cold. I just don't see why it is a bad place to live.
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