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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 12:40:45 PM PST
S. Evans says:
@M.D.: "I meant some type of means tested benefit. Everybody gets SS and Medicare if they paid into the system the required amount of time.

According to her own web site/fan club, "Social Security in any form is morally irredeemable. We should be debating, not how to save Social Security, but how to end it--how to phase it out so as to best protect both the rights of those who have paid into it, and those who are forced to pay for it today. This will be a painful task. But it will make possible a world in which Americans enjoy far greater freedom to secure their own futures."
http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10857&news_iv_ctrl=1021

Posted on Feb 22, 2012 12:36:59 PM PST
M. Daniel says:
S. Evans says: "My father died with an estate (just as one example), and *he* received social security and Medicare benefits for 20 years before he passed. What makes you think that Rand didn't?"

I meant some type of means tested benefit. Everybody gets SS and Medicare if they paid into the system the required amount of time.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 12:28:44 PM PST
S. Evans says:
TWH: M. Daniel wrote: "Some argued she went on some type of government assistance in her old age. I never bothered to research it."

Highly unlikely as she died with an estate.

My father died with an estate (just as one example), and *he* received social security and Medicare benefits for 20 years before he passed. What makes you think that Rand didn't?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:34:34 AM PST
People who can't spell _coercion_ shouldn't try using it on anyone.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:33:33 AM PST
See the "World's Smallest Political Quiz" in one of its many manifestations on the Internet.

The article about it in Wikipedia is helpful, too.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:33:04 AM PST
I could use coersion and force to make you laugh.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:30:54 AM PST
Simply put, my comment about not paying taxes had to do with people who enjoy government services, not with Ayn Rand.

Hope that makes it all better.

I agree with your take on libertarianism, but you have to keep things funny paper simple for these cretins.

Rick Wright
libertarian (with a small "ell") for 54 years.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:29:06 AM PST
freedom4all says:
Keep you day job TS, stand-up isn't for you.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:25:36 AM PST
Like the ultraviolet spectrum? Do they have trouble with moths at Ron Paul!!!!! (5!) events that are held outdoors?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 11:22:24 AM PST
freedom4all says:
OK, so enlighten me, but I don't considerate libertarianism to be on the right or the left, but above the one dimensions political spectrum.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2012 10:18:21 AM PST
Apparently some of us on the Right have reading comprehension problems, too....

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 21, 2012 7:02:24 PM PST
freedom4all says:
Rand didn't pay taxes?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 21, 2012 1:17:50 PM PST
Especially if one doesn't pay taxes....

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 9:14:16 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 19, 2012 9:15:13 PM PST
freedom4all says:
MD, I believe she did. I don't consider that any more hypocritical than drive on government owned and operated highway, drinking water from city supplied water pipe, or using government owned and operated sewage system. It is what one has if one lives in America.

The American Health Care Industry is a Cartel-Monopoly in collusion with the Federal and State governments. It is the only legal medical industry, therefor government distortions render it too expensive for more people, thus insurance or government programs are needed.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:57:40 PM PST
M. Daniel wrote: "Some argued she went on some type of government assistance in her old age. I never bothered to research it."

Highly unlikely as she died with an estate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

"Rand died of heart failure on March 6, 1982, at her home in New York City,[82] and was interred in the Kensico Cemetery, Valhalla, New York.[83] Rand's funeral was attended by some of her prominent followers, including Alan Greenspan. A six-foot floral arrangement in the shape of a dollar sign was placed near her casket.[84] In her will, Rand named Leonard Peikoff the heir to her estate.[85]"

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:42:45 PM PST
M. Daniel says:
Thomas (Sherri's husband) says: "How was she being hypocritical?"

Some argued she went on some type of government assistance in her old age. I never bothered to research it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:41:44 PM PST
M. Daniel says:
Mark R. Allen says: "Ah, the Gingrich defense."

No, the Al Gore defense.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:32:00 PM PST
freedom4all says:
MD, I agree. She did have ego issues but her ideas deserve considerations and study.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:31:13 PM PST
MD

Ah, the Gingrich defense.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:27:28 PM PST
M. Daniel wrote: "It does not matter about her personal life are even if she was a hypocrite."

How was she being hypocritical?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2012 7:04:31 PM PST
M. Daniel says:
Rand's ideas are what is important. It does not matter about her personal life are even if she was a hypocrite. That does not take away from her ideas.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 16, 2012 3:46:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 16, 2012 3:48:47 PM PST
John Hruschka wrote: "Exactly what do you think I said about public unions? "

Nothing. That's why I posted: "...please, give me your definition so I know what I'm pleading guilty to."

As the discussion had turned to unions and corporations. What are you wanting to understand so we can discuss.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 16, 2012 3:38:37 PM PST
freedom4all says:
bump·kin 1 (bmpkn, bm-)
n.
An awkward, unsophisticated person; a yokel.

Rand make have been a lot of things, but a bumpkin? That is strange Hatter, strange.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 16, 2012 3:18:46 PM PST
Grim says:
Objectivist clubs around the country frequently underwrite the retail purchase of Ayn Rand books. It isn't wrong--just funny.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 16, 2012 3:16:36 PM PST
Grim says:
Exactly what do you think I said about public unions?
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