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Initial post: Apr 26, 2012 6:14:15 AM PDT
Boomy says:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/dick-lugar-spokesman-says-national-tea-party-makes-203146744.html

First Hatch, now Lugar...

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 6:25:36 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 26, 2012 7:32:45 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Actually it isn't fair to limit the GOP's infection to "The Tea Party", there is the faction that made the deal with the devil to bring them on...The crony capitalist "defecit's don't matter types" of Karl Rove and Cheneys, and the lickspittals like Romney who cow-tow to them...for votes...Olympia Snowes and true fiscal Republicans where have you all gone?!?

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 7:21:02 AM PDT
Moderate says:
Here in Indiana the anti Lugar TV adds are on all the time. There must be a tremendous amount of money coming in to defeat him.

It will be interesting to see if the Tea Party has the clout they had in the last election. Lugar is pretty popular but the adds are running about 5 to 1 against him. It is interesting that it has caused something of a split in the actual Tea Party members as many like Lugar. As the money pours in to defeat him many have started wondering if they are actually in control of the movement or if it is controlled from "outside." Mourdock, the Tea Party, challenger hasn't been able to raise money within the State and is totally dependant on outside money.

On the plus side people are beginning to check up on who is paying for the adds. We'll see if this diminishes the ability to buy elections.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:33:59 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Mod says,
... challenger hasn't been able to raise money within the State and is totally dependant on outside money.
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Mainland China?

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 7:36:08 AM PDT
I thought the John Birch society was the source of the infection? Or is it the Norquist pledge?

So many different virsus to keep track of running rampant in the halls of congress.

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 7:45:53 AM PDT
Moderate says:
Our Goveror, Mitch Daniels, is pretty popular and has refused to take the Norquist oath so he's not well liked by their ilk. He's come out pretty strong for Lugar.

In the end I think Lugar will win and that all of this will have harmed the state Tea Party movement and will have wasted some of the Growth Club and Freedom Works money.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:48:57 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 26, 2012 7:49:13 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Didn't Daniels get the union concessions WITHOUT destroying their collective bargaining..or am I wrong on that?

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 7:49:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 26, 2012 7:49:49 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
What ever they have the Democrats have another contagion. Leaving neither with any taste or appetite for individual freedom and liberty.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:51:17 AM PDT
Boomy says:
If the Democrats have a cold...Republicans have that "thing" from the film "Alien" in them...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:54:22 AM PDT
Moderate says:
Boom Boom Head says:Didn't Daniels get the union concessions WITHOUT destroying their collective bargaining..or am I wrong on that?

Reply: Yes. He's doing a good job although I haven't agreed with everything, I've liked most of what he's done. He cut a lot of spending but when the state budget still wasnt balanced he raised taxes. We are one of the states that is very sound fiscally.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:55:57 AM PDT
Boomy says:
Well good for him...I know alot of people who are moving to Indiana from Far South Chicago...just to avoid violence...but certain costs are cheaper too...

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 7:57:42 AM PDT
Moderate says:
Oh Oh. Chicagoans with U Hauls are one of the things Hoosiers fear most.

Just kidding.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 7:58:47 AM PDT
Boomy says:
One guy moved to...Gary :0

Posted on Apr 26, 2012 8:02:47 AM PDT
Moderate says:
Gary is scary but it is surrounded by smaller towns that are pretty nice. People from Chicago move to smaller towns that are close to I94. They can live fairly far away and still have a shorter commute than if they still lived in the city. They also seem to like to stay somewhat close to Lake Michigan.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 8:11:20 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 8:13:04 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
In Tennessee we fear anything from North of the Ohio River. They are a swarm.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 8:13:36 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 8:27:49 AM PDT
Boomy says:
No one I know is going to Tennesee...actually we just got two recent Tennesee (MTSU) graduates that moved up to Chicago for jobs, they live in Lincoln Park...we welcome all, and they are happy to get the varied industry experience you can get up in a large urban area...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 8:30:33 AM PDT
Moderate says:
VRWC says:Daniels didn't simply "raise taxes".... he traded a 1% hike in the sales tax for an overall cut in property taxes.

Reply: Cherry pick and rationalize all you want. Overall he raised taxes. Also here is what he has to say concerning the national fiscal crisis:Ignoring the right-wing talking points, Mitch Daniels, the Indiana governor who is mentioned as a 2012 presidential contender, acknowledges that raising taxes may be the fiscally responsible thing to do.

"At some stage there could well be a tax increase," he said. "If you believe our fiscal mess is republic-threatening, and if you have to take the third- or fourth-best approach, at the end of the day, I'd do it."

It's never noted in Republican circles that Ronald Reagan had to raise taxes after he cut them.

Reagan was actually willing (if not always happy) to compensate for gaps in the government's revenue stream by raising rates. In 1982, for example, he agreed to restore a third of the previous year's massive cut. It was the largest tax increase in U.S. history. The Gipper also raised taxes in 1983. And 1984. And 1986. The party sainted him for his efforts.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 10:34:48 AM PDT
VRWC says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 10:43:25 AM PDT
VRWC says:
As for Reagan, liberals have recently tried to confuse his record in order to give Obama's tax hikes cover.
Again, you are substituting a simplistic "Reagan raised taxes 11 times" argument that masks a different reality.

If you look at those hikes in detail, you see that in 1982, after an historic 1981 drop in marginal income tax rates, the TEFRA act repealed a scheduled increase in depreciation schedules and increased tax withholding.... but the only rates that were raised were the gasoline tax and the tiny Federal unemployment tax.

And all of that was supposed to be in exchange for spending cuts, $3 for $1, which democrats later reneged on.

The only other tax hikes he approved were as part of a major effort in 1983 to shore up Social security as a stand alone, fully funded program.... and in 1986 as a trade off where many rates were LOWERED and a few raised in return for eliminating loopholes as an effort at tax simplification.

The bottom line is that the top marginal income tax rate was 70% when Reagan took office and 28% when he left it.

To say that Reagan raised taxes 11 times without actually describing the rest is frankly, kind of ignorant.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 10:43:25 AM PDT
Rev. Otter says:
<<Olympia Snowes and true fiscal Republicans where have you all gone?!?>>

villified for being moderate, branded as RINOs, marginalized within the party, and driven from the ranks by pitchfork-and-torch-bearing mobs.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 10:54:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 26, 2012 10:54:47 AM PDT
VRWC says:
Both parties are doing the same thing.... blue dogs are being threatened and more moderate incumbents driven out in the South.... Heath Shuler, symbol of the blue dog revival in the South, just retired.... there was another one who voted against Obamacare to reflect his more moderate constituency.... that the unions beat in Pennsylvania.... Pittsburgh suburb... just this week.

You can characterize this as "pitchfork bearing mobs" if you like.... and I won't argue with you because conservatives are plenty pissed.... but it is not irrational.... the RINO's have gone along with the big government agenda for far too long to count on them to cut the leviathan state back.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 11:00:15 AM PDT
Rev. Otter says:
<<Both parties are doing the same thing....>>

so if Democrats jumped off a bridge, you would too? ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 11:02:07 AM PDT
VRWC says:
That's not my point.... you are characterizing the move toward ideological purity as an irrational act that only republicans are doing and both statements are false.... it is neither irrational nor are we doing it solo.
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