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Initial post: Mar 26, 2012 7:07:01 AM PDT
ama says:
This guy will cave to any country when it comes to our national security..

President Obama Asks Medvedev for `Space' on Missile Defense - `After My Election I Have More Flexibility'

SEOUL, South Korea - At the tail end of his 90 minute meeting with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev Monday, President Obama said that he would have "more flexibility" to deal with controversial issues such as missile defense, but incoming Russian President Vladimir Putin needs to give him "space."

The exchange was picked up by microphones as reporters were let into the room for remarks by the two leaders.

The exchange:

President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space.

President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you...

President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.

President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

When asked to explain what President Obama meant, deputy national security adviser for strategic communications Ben Rhodes told ABC News that there is room for the U.S. and Russia to reach an accommodation, but "there is a lot of rhetoric around this issue - there always is - in both countries.

A senior administration official tells ABC News: "this is a political year in which the Russians just had an election, we're about to have a presidential and congressional elections - this is not the kind of year in which we're going to resolve incredibly complicated issue like this. So there's an advantage to pulling back and letting the technical experts work on this as the president has been saying."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/president-obama-asks-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense-after-my-election-i-have-more-flexibility/

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 7:31:02 AM PDT
bperr says:
OMG

molehills, yeah, we're gonna need another mountain here...

I dunno, you know how it is...election year and all...

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 7:41:18 AM PDT
Obama's a Legend in His Own Mind.

The majority of voters in this country? Not hardly so impressed ...

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 7:46:16 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 26, 2012 7:48:22 AM PDT
ama says:
Election year eh..sounds like this mans typical kowtowing instead of standing up like a man..

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 7:49:08 AM PDT
bperr says:
how?
he is telling Putin whats going on. AND, if he wins, he WILL have more flexability....

sounds like nothing but truths to me....

continue with the Mountain building...we will have this Molehill covered soon....

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 7:57:03 AM PDT
ama says:
You don't negotiate from behind..

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 8:04:53 AM PDT
bperr says:
THATS what YOU hear....

I hear one politician telling another politician he wants to work with, that he is pre-occupid with the Election Process and will have more time to work with him if he wins....

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 9:05:31 AM PDT
ama says:
He wants to cave on missile defense that's all you have to know with this guy (always ready to kowtow to the world)

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 9:18:46 AM PDT
bperr says:
again, thats what YOU think....

and thats fine, you are entitled....

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 9:21:52 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 26, 2012 9:22:19 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
ama, we should build a missile defense and close every base in every foreign country and limit the navy to the North Pacific east of the date line and the Atlantic north of the Equator.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 9:41:10 AM PDT
Bad Grandpa says:
"This guy will cave to any country when it comes to our national security.."

We agree 100%.
Signed;
Osama Bin Laden, Moammar Gadhafi and the Dead Somali Pirates.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 10:05:53 AM PDT
Ataraxia says:
Being strong means threatening to bomb or just bombing everyone. God forbid we engage in civil discourse, negotiation, diplomacy, or any other such nonsense with anyone. Just "shock and awe" the bejesus out of everybody, right? That's what American exceptionalism is all about.

Booya!

"Might does not make right. It works the other way around."
-President Obama at AIPAC convention

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 10:22:32 AM PDT
Thomas Paine says:
Let's figure out what Obama was trying to communicate. Is he saying that it is not fair that the US has invested its resources in developing a missile defense system to protect its populace from unwanted missile attacks. That since the US has this system it is an unfair advantage and they shouldn't use it against the people that the system was developed to defend against. And since it is so unfair and the American people would not understand during an election year if he made the decision to remove this defensive equipment he will wait until after the election is over to remove the equipment. Or was Obama just putting the Soviets off. I am hoping he is playing politics and is simply putting the Russians off and has no intention of negotiating with the missile defense program.

What is everyone else hoping for?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 10:26:07 AM PDT
Thomas Paine says:
"Might does not make right. It works the other way around."
-President Obama at AIPAC convention

Then by Obama's logic, the US has been right. The fear is that Obama's policies has reduced the might of the US...therefore, his policies must not be right.....

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 10:26:28 AM PDT
ama says:
Ah missile defense is not "threatening to bomb or just bombing everyone" IT'S A DEFENSIVE SYSTEM..oops

"God forbid we engage in civil discourse"

Okay why do we have to wait until the elections are over..answer because he didn't want to look weak before the elections, but he got caught on a live mic being exactly that weak and willing to kowtow ..

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 10:50:47 AM PDT
Ataraxia says:
"Ah missile defense is not "threatening to bomb or just bombing everyone" IT'S A DEFENSIVE SYSTEM..oops"

NOT to defend the US. It was designed to protect Europe from potential Iranian missiles. Yeah, by acting aggressively to proect people who don't want your protection. None of the European countries that the missile defense system was supposed to protect actually wanted the protection, or wanted the missile defense system in their country.

"but he got caught on a live mic being exactly that weak and willing to kowtow .. "

Because he is dealing with a small group of loudmouthed, ignorant rednecks who think the only solution to any problem is for the US to nuke everybody. They think that by "shock and awe" they will get everybody's respect. They don't realize that that is exactly what makes them the clown cowboy laughingstock of the world. But simple solutions for simple minds.

In the meantime, the president has to actually manage the country. And he is doing a wonderful job. His careful and considered foreign policies have made the US more stable and secure than anytime in the last 12 years.

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 10:59:47 AM PDT
Thomas Paine says:
It is the policy of the United States to deploy as soon as is technologically possible an effective National Missile Defense system capable of defending the territory of the United States against limited ballistic missile attack (whether accidental, unauthorized, or deliberate) with funding subject to the annual authorization of appropriations and the annual appropriation of funds for National Missile Defense.

- National Missile Defense
Act of 1999 (Public Law 106-38)

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 11:03:17 AM PDT
Thomas Paine says:
Throughout the years of the Cold War, the U.S. relied significantly on nuclear weapons to deter hostile threats. This concept was centered upon the idea of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) -- protecting ourselves with weapons that could destroy any enemies who were aiming to harm or destroy us. However, the world soon rejected the MAD policy of retaliation as concern over nuclear arsenals increased. While the end of the Cold War signaled a reduction in the likelihood of global nuclear conflict, one of the greatest threats facing the world today remains the increasing proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction.

Countries invest in ballistic missiles because they are a means to project power both in a regional and strategic context and a capability to launch an attack from a distance. Presently, sophisticated ballistic missile technology is available on a wider scale than ever to countries hostile to the U.S. and our allies. As those countries continue to develop and exchange this technology, there is also an increasing threat of those technologies falling into the hands of hostile non-state groups.

The Intelligence Community states that current trends indicate that proliferation of ballistic missile systems, using advanced liquid- or solid-propellant propulsion technologies, are becoming more mobile, survivable, reliable, accurate and capable of striking targets over longer distances. The proliferation of ballistic missiles is increasing the number of anti-access weapons available to potential regional adversaries. These weapons could be used to reduce military options for Combatant Commanders and decrease the survivability of regional military assets.

Iran has grown its short- and medium-range missile inventories, while improving the lethality, deployability, and effectiveness of existing systems with new propellants, more accurate guidance systems and payloads. Iran's launch of a solid-fuel, 2,000 km medium-range ballistic missile last month demonstrates a capability to strike targets in Israel as well as southern Europe. And with the successful launch of the Safir Space Launch Vehicle on February 2, 2009, Iran demonstrated technologies that are directly applicable to the development of ICBMs.

North Korea deploys a No Dong ballistic missile capable of reaching Japan and South Korea and U.S. bases throughout the region, and continues to develop a new intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) capable of reaching Guam and the Aleutian Islands. Despite the failure to place an object in orbit on April 5, 2009, North Korea successfully demonstrated the same staging and separation technologies required to launch a two-stage Taepo-Dong 2 ICBM capable of reaching the United States.

An additional concern are North Korea's and Iran's repeated demonstrations of salvo launches, indicating large ballistic missile attack raid sizes must be considered in developing the BMDS capability.

Syria continues to field updated Short-Range Ballistic Missile (SRBM) systems and acquire Scud-related equipment and materials from North Korea and Iran.

There has been an increase of over 1,200 additional ballistic missiles over the past 5 years. The total of ballistic missiles outside the United States, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Russia, and China has risen over 5,900. Hundreds of launchers and missiles are currently within the range of our deployed forces today.

The increasing technology transfer and missile proliferation could render traditional deterrence and diplomacy ineffective against a future missile attack on the U.S., our deployed forces, or our allies. Through its capabilities for defending critical nodes, military assets, and seats of government, missile defense enhances existing non-proliferation activities. Missile defenses can provide a permanent presence in a region and discourage adversaries from believing they can use ballistic missiles to coerce or intimidate the U.S. or its allies.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 11:21:34 AM PDT
ama says:
Thanks for the post TP and as usual packed with lots of info..

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 11:50:53 AM PDT
Yupo ... I anticipated a fubar from this Korean trip after he rather shocked me with an observation I concur with. It was certainly one of the few intersections of common perspective in his 3 ½ years.

I was very impressed that BO visited OP Oulette on the 38th parallel. It beats the Great Wall and the Giza Plateau for civilizations 'amazing' sites.

I had a South Korean military contract (I don't recommend this customer). I had the opportunity to visit the same place. Obama will never be the same after peering north 50-75 years into the past and then south into the 21st century. The sense of the RNK as the planet's most horrific prison cannot be suppressed.

His cogent observations match my own. You can't get the place out of your mind. BO and I agreed!

... then Medvedev of the criminal enterprise of Russia that is `proud to furnish weapons to Syria' in the midst of killing its people, then furnishing the nuke-ware to Iran, and as I write upgrading the Iranian air defense to better-than-Russian motherland air defense (they got whacked hard in Libya again).

BO's comments to Medvedev are what historical appeasement to evil looks like just before the storm.

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 1:22:36 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 26, 2012 1:23:02 PM PDT
vivazappa says:
ama-
Obama's gonna win...you can spot "etch-a-sketch man" Florida and the big O will still beat him.
Face it you're running Dukakis II-the Mass Liberal!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 1:36:17 PM PDT
I miss W says:
Ataraxia says: "Might does not make right. It works the other way around." - Obama

Right makes might? What a stupid concept.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 1:36:37 PM PDT
ama says: "You don't negotiate from behind.."

Folks, ama should know about negotiating from behind...

Posted on Mar 26, 2012 2:51:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 26, 2012 2:51:54 PM PDT
Mende Mui says:
What a stupid thread...; Every president, Republican or Democrat would have said the same thing. U can't deal with everything at the same time during an election year especially when u have wing-nuts hanging down on your throat for every single thing out there.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 26, 2012 3:35:36 PM PDT
Hurricane says:
re:
"This guy will cave to any country when it comes to our national security.."

We agree 100%.
Signed;
Osama Bin Laden, Moammar Gadhafi and the Dead Somali Pirates.

=====> Priceless!
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