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Posted on Jun 19, 2012 7:45:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 7:45:38 AM PDT
Bob says:
In 2010, 15.1 percent of all persons lived in poverty. The poverty rate in 2010 was the highest poverty rate since 1993. Between 1993 and 2000, the poverty rate fell each year, reaching 11.3 percent in 2000.

In the late 1950s, the poverty rate for all Americans was 22.4 percent, or 39.5 million individuals.

http://npc.umich.edu/poverty/

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 7:48:41 AM PDT
TucsonCoyote says:
My grandmother is a mid-west Nazarene [sp?] (or she was when she was young), very strict. They use tell them they'd be going to hell if they danced before they were married.

Posted on Jun 19, 2012 8:21:26 AM PDT
Mike says:
If things were so good then why did the people of the time want and demand better. Many workplaces were dangerous pits. For instance tell the mine workers of the day that OSHA was needed because things were so good. This wasn't the only industry that was like that.

Read up on what life was really like in the good old days for the old, mentally and physically handicapped, women, laborers etc.

Tell the people at that time in history that food was plenty safe and didn't need to be safer.

Do you remember out Prison Labor System? Debt peonage? The Ku Klux Klan?
If you were sick the last thing you wanted was to go to the hospital. Of course the treatment of the mentally ill was barbaric.

The truth is that there were lots of problems and people wanted and demanded better. What I fear is that we will have to relive the same times again before we realize that the grass wasn't greener.

We have gone overboard on some things and we need to learn from our mistakes and do better but reinventing history that the past was some kind of Shangri la and throwing the baby out with the bath water is insane.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:23:23 AM PDT
Bob says:
It was good for white middle class Americans.

The nostalgia for that time has a very creepy undertone to it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:26:59 AM PDT
Ryan S. Hupp says:
Gosh, that sounds like a wonderful environment to grow up in.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:27:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 8:29:13 AM PDT
Just a few things the "nanny state" did since the 40s and 50s which greatly improved quality and quantity of life:

1. Seatbelt laws
2. Other car safety legislation
3. Cleanup of air and water
4. Banning of lead in gasoline
5. Banning of DDT
6. DUI legislation.
7. Domestic violence legislation
8. Civil rights legislation
9. Americans with Disabilities Act.
10. Anti-smoking legislation

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:28:44 AM PDT
Ryan S. Hupp says:
But hurble durple FREEDOM

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:44:23 AM PDT
TucsonCoyote says:
That's just the tip of the iceberg. She had 12 sibling 10 were older brothers. ;O

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:49:00 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 8:50:54 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
Numbers 1., 2., and 6. are just the rules of the owner-operator of the highway system, just as the owner of any property has the right to do.

Numbers 3., 4., 7 and 10., are simply the Principle that no one has a right to use aggressive force on another individual's property or person.

Number 5. was based on bad science and has caused many deaths in malaria infested countries.

Number 9. has caused the wasting of many orders of magnitude of useless ineffectual spending.

Number 8. sounds good, but has brought about quotas and reverse discrimination.

Not a very good record for massive national debt, a debased currency, an overseas empire that generates hate toward us, a police-state because its war on its citizens who choose to use government banned drugs and now has drones flying around over our heads.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 9:02:03 AM PDT
Don't be so negative. There are plenty of other countries much worse than ours.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 9:24:46 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
Some told me 'Cheer up, it could be worse' So I cheered up and it got worse.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 9:56:35 AM PDT
I'm sorry to hear that. But here is a list of countries worse off than us, to make you feel better.

1. Haiti.
2. Somalia
3. Chad
4. Niger
5. Ethiopia
6. Syria
7. Afghanistan
8. Greece
9. Upper Revoltin'
10. Lower Revoltin'
11. Fredonia.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:01:33 AM PDT
2/2 Tango says:
TucsonCoyote:

Fundamentalism was fun. Glen Campbell used to tell the joke that "Baptists never have sex standing up because they're afraid they'll be accused of dancing." But, there had to be Baptists that indulged in both.

Posted on Jun 19, 2012 10:08:05 AM PDT
2/2 Tango says:
For those who cannot look back to their childhood and find comforting and pleasant memories, regardless of the fact that there were starving Chinese and countries where small children had to work - you will never be at peace.

Go learn the Serenity Prayer - but if all you can focus us on is the negative in life - and most of this you CANNOT change - you will never be comfortable in your own skin. But to look on the bright side - that will be good for those in the mental health field.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:29:40 AM PDT
Plenty of children were molested in the "good old days."

Posted on Jun 19, 2012 10:31:18 AM PDT
Dougerie says:
"Hey Wally, did ya ever notice how nice the good old days were?"

"Gosh no Beav"

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 11:29:08 AM PDT
Lily White:
Actually, I am an independent. The party system doesn't tell me a whole lot, and George Washington warned about the divisions in his farewell address. I vote regularly, and watch the candidates. What I notice in the name calling is that the Dems don't mention that the KKK were Dems, as well as "Bull" Connors, the sheriff of Birmingham. Just think if the money spent on campaigns could be directed to other avenues, such as the CDC or the NIH.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 12:20:41 PM PDT
witchie+ says:
I love terrorist religions--they are such a great way to raise children.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 12:21:25 PM PDT
E.T. says:
Plenty of children are molested now; nothing has changed there.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 12:22:34 PM PDT
witchie+ says:
Yes, we did not have sex ed in those day that let children know that they should not be molested. Children are educated better educated if they attend a school in a state that requires that they have that kind of protection.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 12:24:53 PM PDT
witchie+ says:
Actually more molestation is reported now. In the past, it was never reported. Circa 1953, I was molested as a child by a motel owner where my family was staying. I did not even know what he was doing was wrong. I was not damaged since it was pretty mild and it was not continuing, but it sure happened. Now a child would know to report the problem.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 2:33:11 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 3:11:36 PM PDT
Ashwood says:
Life long reader says: What I notice in the name calling is that the Dems don't mention that the KKK were Dems,

Ash : That changed when the Civil Rights act came along. The Democrats decided to support equal rights for blacks even if it meant losing the southern vote and the Republicans started courting racists as part of their political strategy. So the KKK WERE (past tense) Dems but currently ARE (present tense) much more likely to vote Republican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#Political_repercussions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 2:43:58 PM PDT
E.T. says:
Children often don't report the problem even now. Look at what's going on with Sardusky.

Posted on Jun 19, 2012 3:02:23 PM PDT
Yep, men never beat their wives or kids, all the parents in my village accepted the black students bussed in after the slum school was closed. Or that I was the only boy in class who danced exclusively with the black girls. Or the black guys who were afraid of every single dog they encountered. Being bougy made my kidhood as close to perfect as a life could be, and yet...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 3:40:57 PM PDT
I wasn't arguing that there was a change.
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