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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:27:41 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 9, 2012 12:25:45 PM PST
Belar says:
"He was being followed by a guy in his car."

I'm aware of that, which is precisely why there is no chance in hell that I believe he ultimately shot the kid in "self-defense". He chose to follow him (even after the police told him not to), and he chose to get out of his vehicle and confront the kid. The fact that the police haven't arrested him makes my blood boil. He wasn't preventing a crime; he's not some kind of a hero. He's a murderer, plain and simple, and regardless of whether or not he ultimately gets arrested and convicted, that's something that he's going to have to live with for the rest of his life.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:29:48 AM PST
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Posted on Mar 9, 2012 7:36:54 AM PST
The more you read the more this appears to be less certain. The kid had been suspended from school, he was 17 an ADULT in most criminal cases. No I am NOT defending the shooter, but many of you are jumping to conclusions.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:39:11 AM PST
Because being stalked in a car isn't creepy or scary. How much of an altercation could it have been if the guy was in his car? How threatened could he have felt? All he had to do was step on the gas. I am sickened.

The police told Zimmerman to back off and that they would handle it.

Zimmerman ignored their order and followed Martin.

A fight subsequently ensued.

Neighbors called 9-1-1.

A shot was fired.

Martin was killed.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2012/03/09/why-was-trayvon-martin-killed.html

"Meanwhile, a heartbroken father struggles to deal with the weight of his son's death. He tells the story of his son's heroics at age 9, when he pulled his father from a burning kitchen, and of his love of sports and horseback riding and his dreams of attending college and becoming an aviation mechanic.

Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department on Thursday evening said the account given by Martin's family and attorney is correct, that Zimmerman saw the young man walking home from the store. He said that Zimmerman did indeed call 911 and report a suspicious person, and that he was told not to follow him.

"For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him," Lee said. "He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point."

Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.

Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, "what's your problem?"

That's when a physical confrontation ensued, Lee said. And moments later, Martin was shot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html#s766164

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:39:24 AM PST
Being suspended from school gives somebody permission to shoot you on the street?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:39:41 AM PST
Just an interesting fact.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 7:41:15 AM PST
A man in a car is creeping behind a kid (nobody is claiming he was a criminal and should be treated as such), regardless of what trouble he may have been in, feels so threatened by the kid he is crawling behind (against police instruction) that he shoots him? These are FACTS.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:20:41 AM PST
DCSports says:
Great. So you agree, it wouldn't apply to someone following a person from a distance for a matter of minutes while waiting for the police to arrive.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:21:52 AM PST
DCSports says:
That's what he should have done, but apparently not what he did.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:25:48 AM PST
D. Kneeland says:
DCSports says:
<<<That's not what alegedly happend. If you are attacked, and you pull out a legally carried firearm and the assailant ends up dead, wouldn't that be self defense?>>>>

Not really. If the kid tried to kill you or you had reason to believe he was going to kill or possibly maim you, yeah you might be able to claim self defense. From what has been provided there's nothing to indicate that it was. The kid was unarmed and according to the Miami Herald's story, the Watchman was following him in his car when he called 911 to report the "suspicious" kid in the neighborhood. Reasonably there would only have been a fight if this guy (George Zimmerman) got out of his car to confront the kid which would have been really inappropriate and he would have been told not to by the 911 dispatcher as standard procedure. It seems apparent that the police have been looking any other direction they can to try to give this guy reasonable doubt.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/08/2684419/shooting-mystery-miami-dade-teen.html

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:29:05 AM PST
Dragonwolf says:
Except it wasn't at a distance.
And again he either shot the teen from the car or he purposely got out of the car and shot him.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:58:36 AM PST
I think it would. He was obviously close enough to elicit a reaction. By your measure those youths in Turkey would have been more than justified in shooting me.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 8:59:58 AM PST
kuta

has to be more to it than taht

any stranger in a gated community will be challanged

what happened that caused the shooting ?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 9:03:40 AM PST
He was going to be challenged, by the police.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 9:09:46 AM PST
Freedom of walking stops in gated communties huh.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 9:12:36 AM PST
Segways and golf carts are the only permissable forms of transportation other than an inefficient SUV in a gated community. I heard it was in their covenants. Kid should have known better.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 9:20:24 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 9:57:26 AM PST
DCSports says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:02:05 AM PST
DCSports says:
Depends. He didn't live there. (According to his parents, he was visiting). So, yes, if you are walking around a gated community at night, don't live there, and aren't recognized by the neighbors, you might be challenged.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:03:57 AM PST
My parents moved 3000 miles away from my hometown into a gated community.

On visits my wife and I will take evening walks - not a soul knows us. I have 100% right to be there and I would react in anger if I was followed in this manner.

Neighborhood watch with a gun was the thug. He had no right to intimidate a citizen walking around.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:04:36 AM PST
Challenged with a gunshot to the chest?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:10:03 AM PST
I very nearly did since they didn't stop following us right away.

The only thing we know this kid did was say "What's your problem?" to the creeper following him. Much less confrontational than I was.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:11:42 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 9, 2012 10:11:48 AM PST
He probably reached for a skittle.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:12:14 AM PST
DCSports says:
Sigh. No, smart alek.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 9, 2012 10:16:22 AM PST
DCSports says:
You have a right to be there as a guest, yes. But they also have a right to verify you are guests of a resident.

Again, this community had issues with property crimes, which is why they instituted the neighborhood watch. It makes sense that they would be more concerned about a teenager walking around at night than a couple taking an evening stroll.
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