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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 2:33:51 AM PDT
af: In a free and unfettered market, what would stop a local trauma center from refusing to treat indigent patients?"

RV: Their moral conscious and public image.

BPL: Do cheerful cartoon animals frolic through the Technicolor forests of the world you inhabit?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 2:35:11 AM PDT
RV: If only 1 out of 7 are genetically susceptible to cancer, and nicotine is medicinal to 6 out of 7, including diabetics and people with nervous disorders, why is the government so hell bent on banning cigarettes while we have open borders to drug trafficking cocaine, heroin, meths, marijuana and the like?

BPL: 1. The government has never banned cigarettes. 2. Cigarettes also cause emphysema and heart disease.

RV: I worked for a tobacco company some 45 years ago and heard a great deal of the debate back then.

BPL: Well, that explains your delusional attitude toward smoking.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 5:07:34 AM PDT
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freedom4all says:
Barton Paul Levenson's post: You can't make infinitely more profit by dropping the price more and more, in a free market, which you allegedly support, the price will wind up at the equilibrium point whatever you do.

f4a: That is of course a ridiculous assumption. There are physical limits to profitability that keep prices from going lower. But if a Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie or Sam Walton can lower prices with new technologies and methods, then who benefits the most?

The consumers who vote with their dollars. These entrepreneurs are reward by their increase profits. These are the real heroes of American history.

Posted on Jun 29, 2012 5:56:16 AM PDT
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Charles says:
Don't agree with all but it has much info. long but worth the watch ! Info on Global warming for those lacking in facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgOTQ7D_lk

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:13:22 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"Yes, everyone is worth the time. Everyone. We all seek a better life, at least most of us who are not sadistic."
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Be realistic. & billion does not allow for your finite life. Everything you do discriminates against someone else. Are you afraid to deal in truths of datum? Tunnel vision only lets you see the tunnel.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:15:57 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"I wish I could send you a box of chocolate to cheer up. "
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I do not attach emotions to logical thinking. They lead you astray every time. Seeing the future come just like you expected is reward enough. No disappointments based on wishful thinking and emotional expectations.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:33:59 AM PDT
PapaSmurerf says:
* Almost 99.9% of people who die from cancer and heart disease have eaten carrots.

* Nearly all sick people have eaten carrots. Obviously, the effects are cumulative.

* Most people involved in car crashes ate carrots within 60 days of their accidents.

* 93.1% of juvenile delinquents come from homes where carrots have been eaten.

* Among those born in the 19th century or earlier who ate carrots, there has been essentially a 100% mortality rate.


For some, assumption = empiricism.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:39:18 AM PDT
No. I was reacting to the suggestion by another poster that this would be a reasonable thing to do in order to "conserve resources".

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:40:56 AM PDT
Why do you think I'm a collectivist? I certainly don't want to throw all my private property into a big collective pot. I believe in private property rights. But like all other rights in our system they're not absolute.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:42:31 AM PDT
I don't think nicotine itself is carcinogenic. What's carcinogenic about tobacco is products of combustion. Cigarettes are just a very effective delivery system for nicotine to those who are addicted to it.

Cigarettes pose an enormous financial burden on our healthcare system and on society in general. That's why the government has an interest in reducing their use as much as possible.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 9:44:39 AM PDT
I work for a living. I have my own health, disability, and life insurance. I have my own retirement savings. I am not counting on the government to provide any of this in my old age because I'm not sure either Medicare or Social Security benefits will be available when I retire for someone with my means. I would like to see a system where the safety net is only for those who really need it. This means means testing for SS and Medicare benefits.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 12:06:55 PM PDT
Charles says:
arpard fazakas says:
Cigarettes pose an enormous financial burden on our healthcare system and on society in general

SO DO CARS ! both health and enviorment ! you going to quit driving. many speak about smokers but none are willing to admit that cars make more polution in five minutes than a smoker all day.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 12:39:56 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
No problem charge the insured according to how much they risk their health.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 1:16:55 PM PDT
Right, and some governments try to discourage use of cars as well. For example, congested urban centers increase tolls, restrict parking, ramp up parking fines, etc. etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 6:47:34 PM PDT
MisterTee says:
Look, while you fools all debate this non-issue... the *REAL* threats to planet Earth are being completely ignored:

http://www.xynelgloph.com/threat-to-planet-earth/

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 6:51:08 PM PDT
Truthseeker says:
You are right. AGW is a non-issue - a made-up religious fantasy.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 6:54:24 PM PDT
MisterTee says:
I believe it's *YOUR* thread !

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:05:39 PM PDT
Truthseeker says:
Ah no. Didn't your momma teach you to first read the OP?

Posted on Jun 29, 2012 7:07:05 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
Agenda 21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GykzQWlXJs&feature=related

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:07:59 PM PDT
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Dobrynin,
So, the psychosis of being a socialist could now be classed as "envy" ? Curious that Health Department flush with mad psychiatrists is in the business of categorizing us normal citizens as "crazy" because we refuse to adopt their political mantra of redistributing the wealth.

Years ago while a member of the Mechanics Institute Library I came across a book on the history of Psychiatry in the Soviet Union. It was one of the most awakening testimonies to human evil in the hands of medicine I have ever read. These people were gangsters.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:12:45 PM PDT
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freedom4all,
you write: Most people look upon self interest as selfish. But is is in one's self interest, the vast majority of time, to be cooperative with others. Free choice serves this goal., orders of magnitude better, than group aggressive force."

So where are you with this cult of socialists at the UN's IPCC attempting to shift energy into the hands of the Third World by raising the cost of ours at home, when there are millions of barrels of oil beneath their own feet undeveloped due to socialist dictatorships?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:22:29 PM PDT
Dobrynin,
Good that you are resilient enough to post your wisdom to us "young-uns." So why is the Health Department hell bent on destroying the tobacco industry? And, why are they pitching Universal Care and the Public Option for everyone when select few are susceptible to these diseases, and the real issue may be lifestyle instead of genetics? Job security?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:24:25 PM PDT
Dobrynin,
Would you please clone yourself and send family members to populate California just for some semblance of balance here in Liberal La La Land?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 29, 2012 7:36:02 PM PDT
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Gooffy Lisareads,
You write: "Be realistic. & billion does not allow for your finite life. Everything you do discriminates against someone else. Are you afraid to deal in truths of datum. tunnel vision only lets you see the tunnel."

Oh, good grief. Here we go again with the "redistribution of the wealth" syndrome, like an overcrowded cage of mice.

Men have the capacity to control their environment, build more, discover more, invent more, and trade amongst each-other their goods and ideas.

"Ideas" are as much a commodity as material wealth. It is no coincidence that America has ten times more patents than all other nations on earth combined. This freedom to invent and design is our wealth. The people themselves, are our wealth. If you were to invent a new gadget tomorrow, you would not be "discriminating against someone else," - you would be enriching us all, including yourself.

Posted on Jun 29, 2012 7:38:18 PM PDT
PapaSmurerf says:
RV: So why is the Health Department hell bent on destroying the tobacco industry?

Good question.

After doing some reading, I can now understand why CAGWers always invoke tobacco. In both cases it is already assumed that there is a causal link, CO2/warming - tobacco/cancer, before the research ever commences. Talk about biased studies!

~ http://www.lcolby.com/index.html
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