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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2012 2:46:56 PM PDT
reply to Timothy R. Wilcox's post:

slow change never happens

somebody yells and they dont cut
then next year all the spending is back

the ONLY WAY TO CUT THE BUDGET IS TO 100% SLASH MANY DEPARTMENTS
TOTALLY SO THEY CANNOT GROW BACK

if you try to cut one program
people cry about all the harm taht results
and dont pay no nevermind that we cant afford it

but if you cut everything the pols only hear the yelling once
and can say everybody shared in the sacrifice

trying to do it slowly will not work

Posted on Apr 12, 2012 2:48:18 PM PDT
Georgedc says:
What will fix the economy?

Answer: 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

❤OBAMA❤

:)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2012 2:48:28 PM PDT
Untermensch: "Obama tax cuts now."

I would have to agree with that.

He rolled over on that and showed his soft underbelly to the GOP.

HUGE MISTAKE. He should have stood up to them.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2012 5:09:55 PM PDT
When I say 30%. I mean 30% of the entire federal budget not 30% of some individual agency or program. I realize that they will always do what it takes to keep their agency going. It is self-preservation. However, someone needs to step up and bite the bullet. Americans also need to expedite this process by not demanding the services.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2012 7:01:43 PM PDT
reply to Timothy R. Wilcox's post:

that is a good start
we need to cut it at least 50%

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2012 7:29:00 PM PDT
M. Daniel says:
"I always hear things like "invest in education and research"

A lot of the federal spending ("investment") on education does not go for useful purposes. It does not go for the essentials of education. So much of it is useless paperwork that requires additional employees to prepare.

Posted on Apr 12, 2012 7:39:08 PM PDT
Judge Dredd says:
End individual income tax and replace it with a VAT system instead of a sales tax to prevent cash under the table transactions. The NATVAT as it could be called will apply to everything with no exceptions. Food, medicine, housing, education, all are included. There would be no tax exempt status period ( sorry churches, schools, charities). The more you spend the more tax you pay, but its the same for everyone. This way its fair because tax loopholes and the Earned Income Credit have caused some people to pay for the obligations of others. The illegal aliens will pay tax this way also. No more bailouts or subsides or government loans, period. A balanced budget amendment to the USA Constitution should be included to stop future behavior as we have currently.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:11:45 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
Libertarian! Socialist! Patriot! Fryfan! says:
As you see I was doing quick pulls - If you would like me to spend a day gathering polling data on policies such as alternative fuel, public option, millionare tax surcharge, social security, etc I will do that.

As my quick hits showed you there is evidence out there that the public supports policies in the Progessive budget proposal.
>>What I saw were polls from 2009 to 2010.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:15:24 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
Timothy R. Wilcox says:
I would only make three suggestions. One, cut the federal budget by 30%. No agency or governing body is sacred. I would say more but change has to be gradual. Start slow and trim more when the time comes.

>>30% is hardly slow. If you got a cut of 30% in your paycheck, would it affect you? Of course, so it's not slow.

Two, I would legalize marijuana. Stop wasting time, energy, money, and resources policing, prosecuting, and imprisoning those who do not harm society. The economic gains would be substantial but also sustainable in the long run.
>>Do you realize that the total money saved and made here is like spitting into the ocean? You have a problem with drug laws. Why don't you just be honest.

Eliminate most of the subsidies that prop up agriculture and oil. That sounds harsh but if you do any objective economic research, it should be plenty obvious. These changes would not net profound results that would affect all Americans. However, they would be steps in the right direction.
>>Do you realize that if you cut subsidies, that the price of food and oil would skyrocket?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:16:42 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
whomper says:
Your reply to Libertarian! Socialist! Patriot! Fryfan!'s post:

that is an oxymoron

left and libertarian are contrary ideas
>> He's further to the left, as his moniker shows. He's socialist, which Libertarians have no use for since they are the opposite of the spectrum

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:17:49 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
whomper says:
reply to M. Russell's post:

no

we voted the baby bush and his neocon nutcases out
>> And you voted Obama in. How's that working for you?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:19:14 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
whomper says:
reply to Cognitive Dissonance and the authortive...'s post:

maybe in the next life

but people are evil greedy stupid and cause much harm that we need governments to constrain
>> So you want government intrusion in your life?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:20:45 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
Georgedc says:
What will fix the economy?

Answer: 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

❤OBAMA❤

:)
>>You do realize that the economy is worse than when Obama first stepped in? Gas was about $1.87 a gallon and is now over $4. You really think our country is going in the right direction?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 12:21:48 AM PDT
M. Russell says:
Tyrone Slothrop says:
Untermensch: "Obama tax cuts now."

I would have to agree with that.

He rolled over on that and showed his soft underbelly to the GOP.

HUGE MISTAKE. He should have stood up to them.
>>What tax cuts are you wanting? All I see is tax increases.

Posted on Apr 13, 2012 8:37:32 AM PDT
Here's a view from scientists and futurists, how embracing certain technologies could grow the economy and save money with cheaper and more efficient processes:

http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/04/maxing-out-technology-proven-within-5.html
MAX'ING OUT TECHNOLOGY PROVEN WITHIN YEARS 2027 - 2032

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 8:43:08 AM PDT
and 2011

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 8:47:24 AM PDT
Really?

Do I need to go very basic and point you to wiki to learn basic political spectrum?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

There is left and right (yes I am far left)
The up and down is Authoritarian on one end and Libertarian on the other. I am far left and far libertarian the two can coexist and do with many people.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 10:16:32 AM PDT
Brad D. says:
I know there is a such thing as a socialist libertarian... I even know somebody who is. But could you explain to me what exactly you believe on certain issues that makes you the same and makes you different from a libertarian like Ron Paul?

Also, how can you and I both be Libertarians when our views are so vastly different?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 10:38:21 AM PDT
JKW Retired says:
"I know there is a such thing as a socialist libertarian... I even know somebody who is."

The only way that would be possible is schizophrenia.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2012 10:50:24 AM PDT
M. Daniel says:
M. Russell says: ">>30% is hardly slow. If you got a cut of 30% in your paycheck, would it affect you? Of course, so it's not slow."

True, that is not slow. But you could easily eliminate useless programs that should not exist at all. It should not be a 30% across the board cut.

Posted on Apr 13, 2012 11:29:40 AM PDT
whomper and Brad D. have a sense of just how far our backs are to the wall. Entire federal agencies must be phased completely OUT so that they can't grow back again. Foreign aid, military outposts, and expensive weapons that do not protect our GDP in some tangible way have to be cut. Federal subsidies for agriculture must be eliminated as far as possible without causing us to import more food.

The VAT is a terrible idea (especially on food) unless Canada and Mexico have an identical VAT and enforce it well. Raising capital gains tax above 15% is a terrible idea unless the average stockholder is suddenly making way over inflation.
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