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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 6:50:31 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 17, 2012 6:55:37 AM PDT
D. Kneeland says:
visionary says:
<<<kneeland, Not only a shorter 'work life' but a cheaper one. Allowing this recession to continue is cruel to tens of millions who will feel it for the remainder of their lives.>>>

Well yeah. They end up spending most of their working life in entry level positions with crap pay, crap for benefits, a shorter life expectancy, little opportunity to prepare for retirement and a backlog of debt to boot. This has been a growing trend for many years, so the recession is just icing on the cake and it's already a done deal. You can't really fix it. You basically have most of a generation that will have to make do, because you really can't fix it. You can only try to prevent it from happening to the next at best. One of the reasons for the slow recovery is because the recession hit when this increasingly lost generation is beginning to become the economic drivers and they are low on gas already.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 4:55:07 PM PDT
visionary says:
kneeland [[You basically have most of a generation that will have to make do, because you really can't fix it.]]

That's the worst tragedy, it can be fixed. All that needs to be done is what FDR did in the 30s - vast amounts of spending to create jobs such as infrastructure repairs, green energy manufacturing, etc, and taxing the rich to make up for what the rich gained over everyone else in the past thirty years. And reducing military spending.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 5:28:04 PM PDT
D. Kneeland says:
visionary says:
<<<That's the worst tragedy, it can be fixed. All that needs to be done is what FDR did in the 30s - vast amounts of spending to create jobs such as infrastructure repairs, green energy manufacturing, etc, and taxing the rich to make up for what the rich gained over everyone else in the past thirty years. And reducing military spending.>>>

Eh. That could stimulate the economy in general, but it doesn't fix what has already happened. Like I said, you can work to prevent or reduce the trend for following generations but you can not resolve the loss of lifetime earnings by the growing numbers of people who've reached adulthood in the past fourteen years and are unable to find regular work before their thirties.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 6:11:59 PM PDT
visionary says:
kneeland [[you can not resolve the loss of lifetime earnings by the growing numbers of people who've reached adulthood in the past fourteen years and are unable to find regular work before their thirties. ]]

Agreed. Those who suffered from the actions of the wealthy in the last 30 years must be compensated for that crime in civil court.

Posted on Jun 17, 2012 6:37:03 PM PDT
Katrina says:
The "unemployed are now unhireable". I love that!

If you have a job, we're interested in you,...but if you don't have a job, sorry.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 7:22:57 PM PDT
Slang Wright says:
Being unemployed is desirable for MILLIONS. We PAY people not to work.
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That's funny, I asked a few people in my employment office why they don't just coast on UC benefits and they replied it isn't enough to pay mortgage/rent, car payments, and everything else.

If I became unemployed I couldn't just coast either...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 7:29:22 PM PDT
Slang Wright says:
Are Repubs readying their excuses just in case they win the office? They will need them...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 8:16:21 PM PDT
True, unless you were making 80K a year or something, you can't coast on unemployment. They only pay half of what your salary was at work, probably due to the reason they think you'll get a job if you're not getting enough cash from it to make ends meet. But you can't just go back to work that easily sometimes. There have to be plentiful jobs available and you have to find a company that will actually hire you first.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 1:05:07 PM PDT
*I certainly hope not. But you have to wonder with such increases in productivity and global competition: is a good portion of our unemployed.......*permanently* unemployed? Are people becoming obsolete?

Can it be supply and demand as the supply of people grow then the demand goes down. Still what about those employers who can't fill skilled jobs and 15-20$ an hour?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 1:07:05 PM PDT
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So for those of us who are males over 40 and have been laid-off, what are we supposed to do ? Resign ourselves to either being homeless or moving back in with our retired parents (if still living) and becoming round-the-clock caretakers for them ? I mean, something's gotta give. Our society can't keep functioning this way. Even going back to school and retraining in something different won't necessarily help because of the age discrimination factor.

A growing economy. Get as many barriers to a growing economy out of the way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 1:14:12 PM PDT
*Not really? We are too spoiled. The unemployment rate is at 9%, which means 91% have jobs. That does not signal the death of the middle class.

Not exactly true when looking deeper in the dumbers to the workforce participation which is that far fewer people are working than the early 80s.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 2:41:43 PM PDT
we have way too many people
they outbreed job growth
automation requires even fewer

we need to serious limit world wide births more than china has done

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 2:42:25 PM PDT
go home
live in your parents basement

the liberals have screwed you big time
enjoy your unemployment check while they still are coming

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 2:43:18 PM PDT
nonsense

govt data says only 51% of people of working age have any job

the real unemployment is 18%-22% after you subtract out those who do not want a job

Posted on Jun 18, 2012 3:33:53 PM PDT
the premise of this thread sounds eerily similar to what Britain experienced in the early 1900's. A similar dynamic motivated Keynes to write the General Theory. He was a bit off, to say the least. I see another seminal or controversial work coming out that is in the same vein as Keynes.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 4:43:59 PM PDT
visionary says:
horse [[the liberals have screwed you big time]]

Wrong. The wealthy have done the screwing since the mid-70s when the business and financier classes took over.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 5:22:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 18, 2012 5:23:42 PM PDT
D. Kneeland says:
andthehorseirodeinontoo? says:
<<<nonsense

govt data says only 51% of people of working age have any job

the real unemployment is 18%-22% after you subtract out those who do not want a job>>>

Why do you keep posting made up numbers? I think I've already posted the governments numbers three times already. According to the BoLS, the labor force participation rate is 63.8% which is everyone from 16 years old and up. It's comparative to 1979 levels and the historic height of labor participation was 67.3% in early 2000, going back to 58.6% in January 1948.

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

I'm still wondering where you got the idea that 27% of the population is idle rich from.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 10:06:32 PM PDT
dont cherry pick numbers

the bols says of all people of working age only 51% have jobs

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 5:42:05 AM PDT
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