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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:09:00 PM PDT
Kilgore says:
single payer is the next logical step. that is why this ruling should be applauded. maybe we can actually look into the nuts and bolts of the actual issues of health care rather then made up fear tactics.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:12:23 PM PDT
You hit the nail on the head, fear tactics is what's stalled any reasonable measures in the past and now that we've got this, I'm sure some will be looking for alternatives. We simply can't go back to what we had before, it's just not feasible anymore.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:13:42 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 28, 2012 5:14:35 PM PDT
Kilgore says:
now that the supreme court ruling gives the go ahead and the naysayers have no ground to stand on anymore. yes we can move on with the real debate of health care and solutions. obamacare was merely a band aid to hold us over to a real solution.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:26:46 PM PDT
emac says:
Ven

I was reading about your concern. It is my understanding that the ACA will, in effect, for many be a means based system. In other words income and certain types of costs will be taken into effect to determine how much you will have to pay for insurance. That you are over by a penny will not be a Y value rather than a X value. Rather, the cost of the premium will be X plus 1....a premium of something just higher than X. This will be something that you can afford, as opposed to something that you cannot afford at today's premiums.

This is how subsidy type programs work. My practice deals with this type of stuff when it comes to government benefits.

I hope this makes sense.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:38:49 PM PDT
Well, not exactly sense yet, I'll have to see further down the road how this affects me. Right now I'm working a 30 hour a week job, no benefits and make slightly more than would qualify for Medicaid, but not enough to afford health insurance, so I may be one of the ones that slips through the cracks with ACA. Time will tell though.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:41:30 PM PDT
D. Mertins says:
Nope, repeal is. American's middle class aren't going to vote for all these new taxes coming down the pipe

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 5:49:52 PM PDT
emac says:
I hope so...at least until you can begin working as much as you want for a wage you feel is fair.

Posted on Jun 28, 2012 6:20:25 PM PDT
Charles says:
Just another wag the dog !!

Romney says they should have struck it down because it is unconstitutional. Since Masses health law says the same thing, that would unconstitutional as well so it would make him look like a fool. They call this Obama health but where is the medicare like provision that was in it to begin with to give compitition to private insurers.

While this has been going on, NDAA was passed and signed into law. A law that gives the military the right to come into anyones home , take then away forever and not ever let anyone know where they are. Hello FEMA CAMPS !

In the mean time the private insurers now have no reason to try to sell their policies, you must buy at any cost !!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:22:01 PM PDT
Charles says:
D. Mertins says:
Nope, repeal is. American's middle class aren't going to vote for all these new taxes coming down the pipe

What new taxes ???

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:26:30 PM PDT
Intrepid says:
It is not an assault on individual rights. It is enforcement of individual responsibilty if you are an able bodied working person. If you do not want to pay for your health care with insurance, who else do you want to do it?

Since each of your family members can face catastrophic illness and over $250,000 in ICU and extreme end of life care, going without insurance is not an option. Do you want to continue to pay for middle class folks who do not have insurance who try to walk away from ER and hospital bills? Because that's what ER's and hospitals experience NOW. Guess who then pays. We all do.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:46:59 PM PDT
Charles says:
Intrepid says:
It is not an assault on individual rights. It is enforcement of individual responsibilty if you are an able bodied working person. If you do not want to pay for your health care with insurance, who else do you want to do it?

what ER's and hospitals experience NOW. Guess who then pays. We all do."""

You have no idea what is really going on. !!
I retired at sixty two after a heart attack. My insurer, Blue Cross refused to pay the bill because I was moved from New bedford Mass to Boston without getting aproval. I was taken to the hospital in New bedford and woke up in the hospital in Bostan. Tranferd me bause the tea m that was at the hospital in N B MA. was in Boston at the time. My wife and I get a bill for over one hundred thousand dollars because my insurer refused to pay una clause. That is why private insurers make billions of dollars. So those like you that eat up the BS about the people that are running out on bills that others have to pay for, you haven't a clue of reality. Four years later we had to file bankruptcy. Now we live off twelve hundred a month and have no credit. so when our car breaks down , we save for months to get it fixed.

My story is not a new one, these things are gonig on everyday everywhere. Ignoarnce sucks, as do those that live in it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:48:43 PM PDT
D. Mertins says:
for most people the tax in 2016 will be $750 per adult and $375 per kid.

What, did you think is paying for this?

This is the largest tax increase in American History.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:50:49 PM PDT
DEEZUS says:
well...for most people there won't be a tax at all. Most people have insurance. The tax is for people who refuse to get it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:58:24 PM PDT
Intrepid says:
People do TRY to walk out on their bills all the time. Ask any physician (I am one and an administrator).
If you were moved without approval, then that was a screwup. You could have gone after the hospital that made the decision to move you without authorization. You might have also tried harder to negotiate the bills down.

ER's are able to collect only $.10 for every $1.00 billed because people skip out on payments. Your situation was sad but it involved an error.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 6:59:10 PM PDT
D. Mertins says:
You're NUTS..... It's not my responsility to pay for irresponsible behavior that I have absolutely no control over.

I.E. Grossly overweight, smokers, alcohol and drug users...... That's NOT my problem and REFUSE to pay for it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:00:20 PM PDT
D. Mertins says:
Nope, that's in addition.... Do you think these things pay for themselves?

What planet are you from?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:00:28 PM PDT
DEEZUS says:
Soooo, you're in favor of the mandate that those irresponsible people have to buy insurance?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:00:59 PM PDT
DEEZUS says:
No, it's not in addition. It's the tax for people who refuse to get insurance.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:02:56 PM PDT
Kilgore says:
why are you calling this a tax. it is a penalty.. besides they have four years to get their crap together. what is the issue?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:07:49 PM PDT
Someone had a fundamental misunderstanding of the terms of the Act. You are correct.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:08:33 PM PDT
Charles says:
D. Mertins says:
for most people the tax in 2016 will be $750 per adult and $375 per kid.
What, did you think is paying for this?
This is the largest tax increase in American History.""

I realize that this is the kind of BS ppl like you buy into but i won't, what taxes are you talking about. throwing figures out there that you have heard from Romney , who is the biggest liar I know of today of or Faux ( no news station ) drama team is not facts. I;ll bet you don;t have a clue where these so called taxes are coming from. I'l bet you just take it for real becuase it suits you bigotry for less fortunate or just different.

Ppl like you are the reason this country is in this mess that you love to complain about.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:09:29 PM PDT
Kilgore says:
massachusetts has a penalty for those who don't have health insurance. this is the same principle.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:10:45 PM PDT
Kilgore says:
d.mertins complains about everything.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:12:33 PM PDT
Intrepid says:
You DO pay for it NOW whether you realize it or not. That's the point.

IF you don't like that, THEN all the more reason you should realize the Affordable Care Act's provisions are what you want.
i.e. to make people responsible for their own care! This is after all apparently what you want.

As I said before, most Americans do not understand ACA but actually support it's provisions when asked about such details.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012 7:15:07 PM PDT
Intrepid says:
It is being called a tax because the (conservative) Supreme court ruled that Congress cannot fine but it has full authority to tax in this matter. Agree with them or not, that's their ruling in this matter and they are the highest court in the land.
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