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Why We Fight: Because GOP Wants To Keep Viviette Applewhite from Voting


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In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 8:22:03 PM PDT
reply to lowbo's post:

logical fallacy

why are you so against preventing fraud ?

how do we need any evidence in order to prevent fraud ?
it should be done as a matter of course as the sensible thing to do !

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 8:22:53 PM PDT
reply to DCSports's post:

that would be easy for him to do

clearly his head is up where the sun dont shine
so not in the sand

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 8:23:21 PM PDT
eply to lowbo's post:

nonsense

we have only talked about ways to make legal voters able to vote

Posted on May 7, 2012 8:24:32 PM PDT
lowbo says:
I'm referring to the preponderance of ALEC-written, GOP proposed voter ID legislation being voted on and passed in Republican controlled legislatures because of "rampant voter fraud", which, despite republican ranting, has not been proven to exist.

Just using simple logic, it's not difficult to figure out that the GOP is following ALEC founder Paul Weyrich's gospel of decreasing the number of people who vote.

The stated justification for the legislation doesn't exist. Why is the legislation so popular with a party which historically has benefitted from a small voter turnout?

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 8:25:42 PM PDT
lowbo says:
nonsense

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 8:25:51 PM PDT
reply to lowbo's post:

nope
increasing legal voters
while stopping voter fraud and illegal voters

Posted on May 7, 2012 8:29:28 PM PDT
lowbo says:
nope

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:26:43 AM PDT
You're way behind the times.

we have already established that voter fraud is a serious problem.

we are working on improvements now.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:27:40 AM PDT
You're way behind the times. we have already established that voter fraud is a serious problem. we are working on improvements now.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 5:48:40 AM PDT
DCSports says:
Good point.

Lowbo, do you have any alternative (effective/practical) methods to propose for combating voter fraud?

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:20:08 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 8, 2012 6:20:47 AM PDT
lowbo says:
YOU have established in your own neutron cranium that voter fraud is a serious problem.

W fired US Attorneys because they couldn't find something which didn't exist.

You have presented not one dram of actual evidence in support of your ALEC-implanted fantasy.

It would be so much easier if you would just admit you don't want huge swaths of the American populace to vote.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:33:29 AM PDT
lowbo says:
"Good point."

Seriously?

You have your "solution" already. ALEC is cranking out canned, one-size-fits-all, big government "legislation" at this very moment which is the obvious "solution" to your problem: too many American citizens voting.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:37:12 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
Brian McGregor:

The fact that rabid partisans have ginned up support for the supression of voting rights doesn't make it correct.

A great many people oppose health care reform without fully understanding the bill that was passed. They object to a cartoon version of reality.

Your position is circular - it's true because people believe it to be true.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:38:28 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
Brian McGregor:

Leaving aside the obvious fact that neither Rasmussen or Fox are objective, the fact a poll shows a result doesn't prove anything.

A great deal depends on the questions asked. Is this really news to you?

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:39:47 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
Brian McGregor:

The only thing established so far is you are out there on the fringe, trying to do everything possible to put Republicans and their failed policies back into office.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:40:11 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
lowbo:

Oh - you mean like "The War on Christmas?"

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:41:55 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
lowbo:

Notice how no one has managed to dispute the fact that Florida purged thousands of Democratic voters from the rolls prior to the Gore-Bush election.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 6:43:08 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
DSSports:

The default position of the loser in a conversation here - I don't have to present evidence. It's true because I say so. Google it if you don't believe me.

Why would anyone take you seriously?

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 8:40:15 AM PDT
I miss W says:
OP: "Why We Fight"

ImW: That just never fails to gain a chuckle! Liberals fighting? <raucous laughter>

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 9:51:56 AM PDT
DCSports says:
That's an answer I rarely give, but we've been through this topic many times. Numerous people, including myself, have provided information on the topic. The threads have extended into hundreds of posts. If some here want to stick their head in the sand, it's their right to do so. I'm not going to waste my time trying to educate someone who clearly wants to just argue.

As Brian pointed out, it's pretty much a settled fact that voter fraud exists -- the real issue is now how to combat it, and ensure the vote.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 10:48:35 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
You Miss Your Brain:

Let's make two lists - prominent Republicans and Democrats who have served in the US Military.

You'll find the roster of Democrats is considerably longer.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 10:51:05 AM PDT
F. Hollister says:
DCSports:

No, the issue is not that voter fraud exists. There are some 310,000,000 persons in this country.

The issues are: #1 - is voter fraud, using the very narrow definition of the reactionaries (why does Ann Falter continue to be asked on the so-called conservative radio and tv shows when she is the poster child for voter fraud)?, a serious problem?

#2 - are the proposed "solutions" worse than the actual problem?

Fewer than 200 cases investigated by the DoJ over 3 years is not a serious problem.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 10:54:17 AM PDT
ignatov says:
"voter fraud exists"

But not the kind that can be rectified by stronger ID laws. All the IDs in the world won't solve the problem of hackable Diebold machines.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 10:58:49 AM PDT
ignatov says:
For example, Jimmy Carter has more military experience than Mitt Romney and his sons, combined.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 12:02:51 PM PDT
I miss W says:
7% of the military calls itself Liberal. Nearly 50% Conservative. Yeah, I'll take a look at your list whenever you're ready.
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