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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 12:29:38 PM PDT
The folks in Massachusetts like Governor Romney so much, that is why the state is going to turn out for Obama over Romney Big Time. Give it up.

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 2:22:54 PM PDT
And so when the shoe is on the other foot you get upset. When has Obama had the cooperation of the Republicans of Congress? Oh that is right...NEVER. Get over yourself.

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If Romney did such a great job why did his approval rating fall from 61 percent to 34 percent during his time as governor? His dismal rating ranked 48th out of 50.

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Posted on Jun 10, 2012 2:54:49 PM PDT
Note the headlines from the Christian Science Monitor:

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Bill Clinton says Romney win would be 'calamitous.' Why the harsh turn? (+video)

Just last week, Clinton called Romney's business record 'sterling,' undercutting a key Obama campaign attack. Now he's slamming Romney harder than the president's own team.

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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0605/Bill-Clinton-says-Romney-win-would-be-calamitous.-Why-the-harsh-turn-video

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 5:18:16 AM PDT
Mrs. Dumbya - How's life over in the insane asylum?

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 5:18:47 AM PDT
Chaz the First posted this and it is great!

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/thale/the-issue-with-romney-is-the-issues

To put it another way, we support free markets, constitutionally limited government, and fiscal responsibility and we oppose politicians from both parties who do not.

Romney does not, so we oppose him.

A few of highlights from Romney's record showing just how unfriendly he has been over the years to the ideas the tea party holds dear (links and details further below):
*Romney distanced himself from Reagan and Reagan's policies
*Romney didn't like the Contract with America
*Romney led the fight for and implemented health care reform almost identical to ObamaCare
*Romney called his beta version of ObamaCare "a model for the nation"
*Romney defended the individual mandate, saying, "I like mandates. The mandates work."
*Romney supports cap-and-trade "on a global basis"
*Romney worked to regulate "greenhouse gas emissions" in Massachusetts
*Romney got Massachusetts involved in a regional climate change pact
*Romney supports ethanol subsidies
*Romney wants to increase spending "substantially" on energy research
*Romney opposes the Flat Tax
*Romney refused to support the 2003 Bush tax cuts
*Romney's claim to not have raised taxes is called "mostly myth" by Cato Institute
*Romney thought Obama's stimulus would "accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery"
*Romney supports TARP
*Romney says there's nothing wrong with companies asking for bailouts
*Romney supports No Child Left Behind
*Romney supports reappointing Ben Bernanke to chairman of the Federal Reserve

Health Care
*In 2006, Mitt Romney imposed a health care law on Massachusetts that served as a blueprint for ObamaCare. NPR states that ObamaCare "was based, almost line for line, on the Massachusetts model." [1]
*Obama thanked Romney for RomneyCare, saying at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser in Boston, "Yes, we passed health care with an assist from a former Massachusetts Governor... Great idea."[2]
*RomneyCare, like ObamaCare, is based on an individual mandate, which Romney continues to defend. A presidential debate in 2008 featured the following exchange:[3]
* ◦GIBSON: But Gov. Romney's system has mandates in Massachusetts -- although you backed away from mandates on a national basis.
◦ROMNEY: No, no, I like mandates. The mandates work.

*Romney encouraged a broader use of government forcing individuals to make government mandated purchases, saying, "Everybody in our state has to have health insurance and that's a model which I think has some merit more generally."[4]
*Romney's plan, like ObamaCare, fines those who don't purchase insurance that is officially approved and heavily regulate through an "exchange" and subsidizes with taxpayer dollars such purchases.
*Romney said of his plain, with its individual mandate, "exchange," and heavy subsidies: "If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation." Obama and the Democrats agreed and did so.[5]
*The far-left was so excited about RomneyCare that Sen. Ted Kennedy made a trip to be at the bill signing and was all smiles as he stood center stage.[6]
*Despite his previous suggestion that RomneyCare is a "model for the nation", he is now trying to use the excuse that it was OK because it's a state plan and states experiment. But it's wrong for government at any level to violate our basic right to liberty by forcing citizens to buy a product as the individual mandate does.[7]
*RomneyCare has failed, increasing health care costs dramatically. Between 2006 and 2009, cumulative costs increased by $8,569,000,000, emergency room visits are up 7.2 percent, and premiums rose 6 percent, according to the Beacon Hill Institute.[8}
*In the wake of RomneyCare, the Wall Street Journal says Massachusetts "is now moving to impose price controls on all hospitals, doctors and other providers."[9] We can expect that nationally, too, if ObamaCare isn't repealed.
*The Wall Street Journal offers more on RomneyCare, which they call a "fatal flaw" for this candidate, here.

Cap-and-Trade
*Romney supports a global cap-and-trade scheme and involved Massachusetts in a regional cap-and-trade pact. Romney was caught on video in New Hampshire in 2008 having this exchange with a potential voter:
*◦Potential Voter: Do you support cap-and-trade?
◦Romney: I support it on a global basis[10]

*Romney won praise from global warming profiteer Al Gore for saying, "I think it's important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and global warming that you're seeing."[11]
*In 2008, Romney told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that "there's nothing wrong with dealing with global warming."[12]
*In 2004, as Governor of Massachusetts, Romney introduced the Massachusetts Climate Protection Plan to reduce greenhouse gases. The Heartland Institute finds, "Though mostly voluntary, some provisions of the plan are mandatory and will impose economic hardship on Massachusetts citizens."[13]
*Romney's plan, much like the widely rejected Kyoto Protocol states its goals as ◦SHORT-TERM: Reduce GHG emissions to 1990 levels by the year 2010.
◦MEDIUM-TERM: Reduce GHG emissions 10% below 1990 levels by the year 2020.
◦LONG-TERM: Reduce GHG emissions sufficiently to eliminate any dangerous threat to the climate; current science suggests this will require reductions as much as 75-85% below current levels.[14]

*Having pushed carbon regulations Obama could only dream of, Romney uttered this line, which sounds eerily like what Obama would say, "These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment... They help us accomplish our environmental goals while protecting jobs and the economy."[15]
*According to Sandy Liddy Bourne of the American Legislative Exchange Council, "The Massachusetts Climate Protection Plan can be compared to a slick advertisement with no price tag. It is packaged with the same doom and gloom rhetoric of the environmental activists and commits the state government to long-term contracts for renewable energy without the benefits of a free market check-and-balance system."[16]

Ethanol
*Romney makes no bones about it, he supports ethanol subsidies. "I support the subsidy of ethanol," he told an Iowa voter. "I believe ethanol is an important part of our energy solution for this country."[17]
*Romney goes so far as to support trade barriers on ethanol.[18]
*Romney also supports energy subsidies in general, unequivocally stating in his 2008 campaign platform a need for a "dramatic" increase in "federal spending on research, development, and demonstration projects that hold promise for diversifying our energy supply."[19]

Taxes
*Romney refused to support the Bush tax cuts in 2003.[20]
*Romney strongly opposes the pro-growth Flat Tax.[21] So much so that he, as a "concerned citizen" ran a newspaper ad opposing it.[22] He said, "I'm probably not going to be recommending throwing out the code and starting over" and says the flat tax is "unfair."[23]
*In 2002, while Romney was running for governor, limited government activists in Massachusetts were supporting Ballot Question 1 to eliminate he state income tax. Forty five percent of the voters supported eliminating the tax, Romney opposed eliminating it.[24]
*When Romney ran for governor in 2002, he refused to sign a no-tax pledge. "I'm not intending to, at this stage, sign a document which would prevent me from being able to look specifically at the revenue needs of the Commonwealth."[25]
*Romney enacted $432 million in fee hikes and $300 million in higher taxes as governor of Massachusetts.[26]
*In a recent "Fiscal Policy Report Card" on governors, The Cato Institute, gave him a "C." As far as the image Romney cultivates as "a governor who stood by a no-new-taxes pledge," Cato called it "mostly a myth." As evidence, they cited the hefty fee increases and business tax hikes achieved through the closing of loopholes.
*Romney proposed a tax shift that would have increased taxes on SUVs.[27]
*Romney instituted a 2-cent-per-gallon increase on a special gasoline fee that takes in $60 million per year.

Spending
*As Governor, Romney proposed a budget in 2007 that was an outrageous 8.5 percent higher than the one he proposed the year before.[28]
*Romney, despite calls from many fiscal conservatives to keep everything on the table when looking for spending cuts, recently stated that "I'm not going to cut the defense spending."[29]
*Romney parroted discredited Keynesian economic thinking when he wrote in No Apology, "The `all-Democrat' stimulus that was passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery."[30]
*Romney sounds a lot like Obama when he says in an op-ed to what was surely a fawning New York Times audience,

I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research - on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like - that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others. I believe Washington should raise energy research spending to $20 billion a year, from the $4 billion that is spent today.[31]

The Wall Street Bailout
*Romney supports the Wall Street Bailout/TARP program. In his book No Apology he says:

Secretary [Hank] Paulson's TARP prevented a systemic collapse of the national financial system.

It was intended to prevent a run on virtually every bank and financial institution in the country.

Had we not taken action, you could have seen a real devastation.

*Romney reaffirmed this position in 2009 saying, "I believe that it was necessary to prevent a cascade of bank collapses."[32]

More Mitt, More Problems
*Romney supports federal involvement in education, long held by constitutional conservatives as a state prerogative, offering his support for the Bush-Kennedy No Child Left Behind law. In a 2008 debate, Romney stated, "I supported No Child Left Behind, still do." [33]
*Romney ran on raising the minimum wage and putting in place automatic increases by indexing it to inflation. [34]
*Romney signed in to law a smoking ban.[35]
*Romney thinks it's OK for companies to ask for bailouts, stating in a New York Times op-ed about the auto bailout, "It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition"[36]
*In April 2009, Romney told The Hill newspaper that: "We as Republicans misspeak when we say we don't like regulation. We like modern, up-to-date dynamic regulation that is regularly reviewed, streamlined, modernized and effective."[37]
*On Neal Cavuto on January 28 2010, Romney supported the reappointment of Ben Bernanke to chairman of the Federal Reserve.[38]
*Romney distanced himself from Reagan. During his Senate debate with Ted Kennedy Romney made it clear he was not a fan of Ronald Reagan. Kennedy said to Romney, "Under your economic program, under the program of Mr. Reagan..." to which Romney responded, "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."[39]
*Romney didn't like the Contract with America, saying "...it is not a good idea to go into a contract like what was organized by the Republican party in Washington laying out a whole series of things which the party said these are the things we are gonna do. I think that's a mistake."[40]

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[1] http://m.npr.org/news/Science/136285615

[2] http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/19/obama-thanks-romney-again-for-his-role-in-passing-health-care-reform/

[3] http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4091645&page=1&singlePage=true

[4] http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-05-12-republican-romney-health-care-law-obama_n.htm

[5] Ibid.

[6] http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/03/massachusetts_with_health_care.html

[7] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703625304575115691871093652.html

[8] http://www.beaconhill.org/BHIStudies/HCR-2011/PR-HealthCareReform2011-0627.htm

[9] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703864204576317413439329644.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

[10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAGpLOKtQDA

[11] http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57054.html

[12] http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Mitt_Romney_Energy_+_Oil.htm

[13] http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/15250/Massachusetts_Gov_Romney_Unveils_Climate_Protection_Plan.html

[14] http://www.newamerica.net/files/MAClimateProtPlan0504.pdf

[15] http://myclob.pbworks.com/w/page/21956517/12-07-2005

[16] http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/15250/Massachusetts_Gov_Romney_Unveils_Climate_Protection_Plan.html

[17] http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/05/27/romney-hearts-ethanol-subsidies/

[18] http://www.iptv.org/iowajournal/story.cfm/143

[19] http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/4237358

[20] http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/154741/romney-mccain-and-taxes/byron-york#

[21] http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3423.html

[22] http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/mitt_romney_is.php

[23] http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3423.html

[24] http://www.jeffjacoby.com/8139/making-the-case-for-question-1

[25] Ibid.

[26] http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/10/11/mitts_no_tax_mirage/

[27] http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/mitts_memory_lapse.html

[28] Romney's 2006 budget http://www.mass.gov/bb/fy2006h1/06budrec/govarea/ v. Romney's 2007 budget http://www.mass.gov/bb/fy2007h1/2007budrec/govarea/

[29] http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/161489-romney-im-not-going-to-cut-the-defense-budget

[30] http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44570

[31] http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html

[32] http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Romney_at_CPAC.html

[33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26ADuXXS54&feature=related at 4:29

[34] http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3407772&page=1

[35] http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595071548/Romney-signs-a-ban-on-workplace-smoking.html

[36] http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html

[37] http://thehill.com/opinion/editorials/6536-regulatory-tide

[38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX6T--U8Ll8

[39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

[40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jzno_apP1Q

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:14:43 PM PDT
A customer says:
"CNN - Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, tea party favorite and son of presidential candidate Ron Paul, officially endorsed Mitt Romney late Thursday night."

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/decision-2012/kentucky-senator-rand-paul-endorses-romney

Independence Hall Tea Party PAC Becomes First Tea Party To
Endorse Mitt Romney; Predicts Governor Romney Will Be Elected
45th President of the United States

Philadelphia, PA (January 2, 2012)

http://www.independencehallteapartypac.com/

A long list of Tea Party endorsements, your jealous. Or do you just like to lie to yourself ?!?!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:22:10 PM PDT
J. jones says:
Cioran Sellars says:
Oh but Mitt did pass Romneycare, the seed from which ObamaCare grew, so credit him that!

J.jones says: Good try, but no conservative is going to take the bait. see, they have nowhere to go with your discussion, Sellars. Except a dead end. You have so many options to make them look silly, that only TOPICWAQ would even comment. And she doesn't count. ( Any conservatives reading this feel free to prove me wrong.)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:26:00 PM PDT
J. jones says:
Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times! 11 times! No Republican wants to hear that. Reagan would be kicked out of the Tea Party, that's if he ever could get in at all.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:30:37 PM PDT
J. jones says:
Superman says:

The commercial accurately notes that unemployment also fell from 5.6 percent to 4.7 percent during Romney's term".

J.jones says: Superman, now can you explain how Romney was 47th in job creation?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:39:05 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 11, 2012 10:39:52 PM PDT
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"Superman, now can you explain how Romney was 47th in job creation?"

Another liberal lie, go figure.

Massachusetts was 50th when Governor Romney took over, the "tech boom crash" under Clinton had devastated Massachusetts & Massachusetts was 28th when Romney left. Yeah, from 50th to 28th with an 85% liberal legislator. Mitt Romney is Americas best "fix it man" when it's broken.

Mitt Romney created more net jobs in Massachusetts then Barry Obama has in the whole nation.

And do expect Barry Obama to lose big, I am guessing 13% to 18%.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 2:58:52 AM PDT
J. jones says:
Massachusetts was 50th when Governor Romney took over, the "tech boom crash" under Clinton had devastated Massachusetts & Massachusetts was 28th when Romney left. Yeah, from 50th to 28th with an 85% liberal legislator. Mitt Romney is Americas best "fix it man" when it's broken.

J.jones says:another huge distortion. in fact, it took the romney camp a long time to come up with a spin for that one. just like the bain capital fiascos, where he axed all those jobs. he should have known obama was gonna slap that one down.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 3:04:52 AM PDT
J. jones says:
chaz, again, u own this discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 3:06:30 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 12, 2012 3:14:39 AM PDT
J. jones says:
J.jones says:At last night's debate, moderator Brian Williams highlighted the statistic in the first question directed at Romney: "Despite your own private-sector experience, as you know, Massachusetts ranked only 47th in job creation during your tenure as governor."

The Romney campaign doesn't challenge the statistic, but argues that focusing on job creation alone misses crucial context regarding what Romney achieved in office.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276684/mitt-romney-s-job-creation-record-katrina-trinko

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Last edited by the author on Jun 12, 2012 3:19:03 AM PDT
J. jones says:
J.jones says: this site shows the truth.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276684/mitt-romney-s-job-creation-record-katrina-trinko

note: Romney never challenges the stat, and looks dead in the water when hit on it. this is surprising, since he has known for some time, that obama, and even his GOP rivals, were going to zero in. even brian williams zinged him, and he never refuted it.
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