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What President Obama should do if the GOP carries through its threat of holding America hostage and not raise the debt ceiling:


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Initial post: Jan 6, 2013 6:13:04 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
If the GOP refuses to raise the debt celing in March at the latest, the country won't default. 60% of the government's money comes from incoming tax revenue; 40% is borrowed. Interest on debt is about 6% of overall spending at current low interest rates, so easily payable, even if the debt ceiling is not raised.

What not raising the debt ceiling means, is that the government will only be able to spend 52% of what it normally spends, i.e. a partial government shutdown. And President Obama gets to decide what to prioritize and what to shut down.

Here's my suggestion to President Obama.

1) Shut off all welfare, medicare, social security, veteran's benefits and every other payment to all registered Republicans in gerrymandered Congressional districts that voted GOP

2) Shut off all federal funding to States with both GOP governors and legislatures.

There, that should easily reduce federal government spending by 48%, right?

The Republicans want huge spending cuts, so GIVE IT TO THEM. They should be happy, right?

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 6:15:58 PM PST
Boomy says:
Lyndon Johnson would have done that..while luaghing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:19:40 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
What has Obama got to lose? It's not like he's running for re-election at any point, and it would be the right response to GOP terrorists willing to hold America hostage if they don't get their way.

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 6:21:03 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2013 6:24:06 PM PST
seajaw says:
...and getting his measurements taken for new, roomier-where-it-counts, trousers. :)

Gotta laugh at those commercials for "ballroom" jeans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13-Rqjt5kwg

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:26:08 PM PST
that would be illegal and he would be impeached.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:29:11 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
Actually, no it wouldn't be illegal.

Go check. If there's a partial government shutdown, the Treasury and the President have the authority to prioritize spending whichever way they want, that's what the Constitution mandates.

There's a reason why the President of the USA is considered the most powerful person in the world, although you GOPers have tried to minimize it while Obama has been in power.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:30:01 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:31:04 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
No, the Republicans in Congress would be lynched by their own constituents, as they were the last time they attempted such blackmail, back in 1995. Good riddance.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:33:02 PM PST
Boomy says:
And he wouldn't be convicted by the Senate...like Clinton.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:35:07 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
There would be no legal basis for impeachment anyways, none whatsoever.
The President would be acting within his authority mandated by the Constitution.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:37:32 PM PST
Truthseeker says:
Here's another idea I heard on Fox News Sunday today.

The President could decide to shut down the poultry-related activities of the FDA, thus shutting down the U.S. poultry industry and putting the economy of red states in turmoil.

The GOP blackmail, if they really go through with it, is going to be a lot of fun, as long as President Obama continues his new-found confidence and "just say no" to GOP maniacs.

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 7:19:11 PM PST
interesting suggestions.. and all fall in line with why we have inactivity in our government.. neither side is willing to compromise...

the republicans have multiple times put off cuts because we would "Get to them later" but so far still no cuts...

How many times do you expect the opposition to fold and accept the promise of cuts without ever actually providing cuts?? the question is simple and the two sides have very different concepts...

the democrats believe more revenue is the answer.. the republicans believe less spending is the answer.. a mix of both would seem like a good idea to me personally but so far ALL we have seen is increased taxes and a PROMISE of future cuts... it is time to stop putting the problems off and start addressing the spending issues our government has..

do me a favor and list the actual CUTS the current administration is willing to give up.. then you might have an argument; so far the only cuts i have seen listed are all scheduled for 2015 or later.. sorry cutting later is NEVER a good idea.. cut NOW please.. we as a country need to control our budget.... .THEN we can talk about more revenue.. right now i just see the promise of more spending and hope it all works out!

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 7:34:55 PM PST
Roger says:
Raising the debt celing is a classy way of asking to borrow more money. Exactly what we need with a $14+ trillion debt.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 7:37:15 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2013 7:40:23 PM PST
Roger says:
1) Shut off all welfare, medicare, social security, veteran's benefits and every other payment to all registered Republicans in gerrymandered Congressional districts that voted GOP

2) Shut off all federal funding to States with both GOP governors and legislatures.

Why only those GOP states? If Obama is to unite this country, why ask him to divide it by shutting down states with alternate political stances to those of him and Senate?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:39:46 PM PST
Typical ultra-liberal rant. All you care about is spend, spend, spend and destroy what's left of this country. Your grandchildren will thank you when they're scrambling to see which one of them can get a job as house boy for their Chinese masters.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 1:10:12 AM PST
Truthseeker says:
Not at all. Let's stop spending where spending is derided, i.e. let the Federal government stop spending on Republicans who hate spending. No more welfare, medicare, social security and other handouts for ranting Republicans.

You will like it and so will liberals. It's compromise, no?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 1:13:58 AM PST
Truthseeker says:
We saw how much the GOP was interested in uniting the country by blocking federal aid to NJ/NY Sandy victims for months, the same people who help pay for rampant welfare in the Red States, especially the southern states and ensured relief for Katrina within 10 days.

"Why only those GOP states?"

Well, if the GOP prevents the debt ceiling from being raised, then the federal government can stop dishing out welfare to red states purportedly who don't like it, but can still afford spending for Blue State Americans who LIKE it and vote for it!! Fair, no? Respectful of individual rights and wishes, no?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 2:11:48 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 7, 2013 2:12:08 AM PST
Truthseeker says:
For example, I wonder what would happen to ungrateful West Virginian mass welfare freeloaders without federal assistance.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 2:59:21 AM PST
I like it. Give them what their Representatives are trying to do to us all. Brilliant.

Posted on Jan 7, 2013 3:00:30 AM PST
Just one question. How would that work for people who are stuck in a Red Zone and couldn't throw the bastards out no matter what they did?

It's not their fault that their neighbors are idiots.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 4:47:13 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 7, 2013 4:48:06 AM PST
Truthseeker says:
That's why target registered Republicans in red Congressional districts only and cut off federal funding to State goverments which have both a Red Governor and Red Legislature.

That should shield the reasonable people who are stuck in a red zone.
And the registered Republicans, they are clamoring for no federal government handouts, so they will get exactly what they asked for.

Posted on Jan 7, 2013 4:53:42 AM PST
gginnc says:
All of us know that the O will not negotiate on a single cut. His handlers (the DNC) being socialists believe that all money and all guns should be in their slimy little paws. When you have the likes of Barney Frank & Chris Dodd making fiscal policy do you expect an easy answer? It would be best for the country if the O were to retire to his ancestral home and have no further communications.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 4:58:47 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 7, 2013 4:59:38 AM PST
Truthseeker says:
Nope, the American people solidly re-elected O, and he's here to stay for another 4 years.
It would be best if right-wing crazies like yourself self-deport, as loser Romney suggested.

Posted on Jan 7, 2013 5:27:24 AM PST
Government shuts down all the time.Weekends,holidays.Congress takes a 5 week summer recess then a 7 week recess in September. .When not in recess they are out campaigning or selling themselves out to whomever contributes the most.For those of us who do the "making" in America it's really no big deal.It's those that do the "taking" in America who stress the most.Government is everything to them.Poor saps.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 7, 2013 5:34:29 AM PST
Joan Potts says:
Solidy? By 3% LMAO
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