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How To Retool The Republican Party?


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Initial post: Jan 6, 2013 7:52:25 AM PST
Here are my suggestions, in no particular order:

1) Pull the back-room deals into the light of transparency, and pick candidates with a true consensus - not just who makes pilgrimages-for-support to all the Super-Republicans.

2) Reach out to all ethnic groups of citizens, especially the faster growing sub-population of Hispanics, but also the smallest groups of Muslims and Malaysians.

3) Set up college campus Republican Centers that are more about debating the issues than lectures-and-literature. Today's Young People grew up with the democratizing power of the Internet and Chat Rooms, and feel slighted by the old-style non-participation of just lectures-and-literature.

4) Don't rely on just the most well known or older paid-their-dues candidates who bubble to the surface as an election nears. Reach out to all qualified candidates and start to include them and groom them years earlier. The GOP has an American-Indian governor of Louisiana and Hispanic Congresspeople with good ideas and the determination to succeed.

5) Quit relying on the good-ole'-boy system of just older white men. Start highlighting hard-working and qualified Republicans in Congress and state legislatures, from Black Congressmen to women who are experts in specific, politically-related fields.

6) Arrange speaking tours for prospective candidates (including college campuses) during non-election years. It's a good way to evaluate prospective candidates AND see how prospective voters react to them.

7) Better voting-machine software to detect massive vote-theft; and/or new and easier voting options, like registering AND voting by computer, maybe alphabetically on certain days.

These are just my ideas, culled from what I've been reading and my own thoughts. I invite intelligent comments and discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:02:51 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Getting scared, huh?

"These are just my ideas, culled from what I've been reading and my own thoughts."

If an idea is "culled" from what you've been reading, it's not really yours, now is it? (What, too tired this morning to find links?)

"I invite intelligent comments and discussion."

Good luck with that. ;)

P.S. Kudos on the "massive vote-theft" bit! You managed to slip in a whiff of The Crazy AND apply Martinesque Hyphenation! BRAVO!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:03:03 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 6, 2013 8:24:26 AM PST
Looks like all the northern Repubs may be shifting parties all over this Redneck denial of relief funding for New Jersey and New York. I can't wait for the next hurricane to come through the south. They thought Bush was slow.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:35:34 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2013 8:36:06 AM PST
DEEZUS says:
Allen West got beat because he played crazy a little too well.

btw, what does the drunk driver's race have to do with anything?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:43:12 AM PST
Dougerie says:
Sounds to me like you want to go on a sales drive before you have a product.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 8:53:29 AM PST
Well, well. I get most of my ideas from reading. That, and the radio.

The future of the Republican party is not my business, but I care THAT it has a future. Otherwise a vacuum will be created and the Democratic party will split apart. Each party has a vested interest in the health of the other.

The present Republican party has been taken over by what is essentially a criminal enterprise. I believe it can recover, but it won't be easy. If they do reconstruct as a real party rather than an operation for sucking money out of billionaires, we will all be the better for it, even/especially the dems, because our game will get even better.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 9:11:55 AM PST
Leigh, when fools no longer vote, then and only then, the Republican Party can heal. When small minority districts can allow their uneducated and dogma sickened views dictate house policies, the right will never be able to recover for they will constantly send restrictionalists to congress all while the broader populous well fill the senate and executive branch with rational adults.

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 9:51:04 AM PST
Minsky: There will always be fools, and some will always vote. If the Republican party implodes, WE will inherit their share of them. : )

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 10:06:52 AM PST
K Moody says:
leigh, my personal take is we need several different parties, then we'd see and hear from many voices who have great ideas, but have difficulty being heard when the DemoPublicans have bought and paid for the media, just my two cents. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 10:19:02 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
But at least with you, leigh, one gets the impression that you really DO read and consider what you've read. Marilyn reads shallowly (and often, apparently, not all the way to the end) and only "culls" those bits that fit into her jigsaw-puzzle worldview.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 10:40:12 AM PST
cant be done

need to totally destroy it
then start a real party that is good

the gop is pure evil now
too late to bother changing it

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 10:47:20 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2013 10:53:49 AM PST
KM: Happens I agree with you. But the Founders, who had experience of a parliamentary system, recoiled from the thought of a tangle of parties. They crafted something else, and we are pretty much stuck with it.

Much of the rest of the world did not copy us, but chose the multi-party, coalition-necessitating parliamentary model, which makes for entertaining viewing, especially Taiwan, South Korea, and the Knesset.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:04:06 AM PST
Ronald: "At least with" me? Watch it, tough guy. : )

It is as important to catch someone doing something right as to scold when they do something you deplore. The OP seemed reasonable to me. The thread was fairly labeled. It was for Republicans.

MM is a work in progress, as we all are.

Flogging our adversarial friends in the GOP, and needling their every failing, may yield a (very) short-term thrill, but strangely it does not induce them to want to become more like us. (You, too, electronics guy.)

After all, you can always hit Ignore or move on to a more attractive thread.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:09:54 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
(But is there anything in the Constitution that specifically mandates a two-party system?)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:13:38 AM PST
Ronald: No. The Founders thought they had outwitted the partisan urge, and that there would be no parties at all.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:18:01 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Well, obviously our opinions differ on this. Watching MM over the last few years leads me (at least) to believe she's a lost cause, and any progress is in a negative direction.

And the thrill is anything but short-term. I'm looking forward to years more of ever-increasing enjoyment as her capacities ("mental facilities" is the term she's misused for them at least once) diminish even further.

And yes, this is a personality flaw I can live with just fine.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:31:15 AM PST
They need to stop treating Libertarians as an enemy. Right now they have no competitive advantage; both parties are oligarchal big government.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:47:49 AM PST
leigh says: "It is as important to catch someone doing something right as to scold when they do something you deplore. The OP seemed reasonable to me. The thread was fairly labeled. It was for Republicans.

MM is a work in progress, as we all are."

I was astounded by MM's argument for her OP. It was logical, didn't intentionally plagiarize, and invited intelligent reply. Kudos.

I do disagree that we are "ALL a work in progress" (emphasis mine). There are some who post here, no names needed, who have no desire to improve because they acknowledge no fault and, more importantly, have no real desire to do anything but be divisive. Nevertheless, it should be a pleasant surprise when our expectations are exceeded and, IMO, MM did that.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 11:51:41 AM PST
The Republican Party already are a bunch of tools.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 12:03:49 PM PST
Dimmesdale-Loving Panthor says: "They need to stop treating Libertarians as an enemy. Right now they have no competitive advantage; both parties are oligarchal big government."

I pretty much agree with your assessment. But, it does seem to me from the last two elections that the biggest enemy the Libertarians have is the Republicans. A vote for a Libertarian seems to be viewed by the GOP as a loss for its candidate; a viewpoint likely accurate as both share an ideology, practiced or not, of smaller, less 'intrusive' government. The Democrats (I am not one) seem to be an enemy only in their dismissal of the Libertarians as a serious party while encouraging the drain it puts on the GOP.

With Citizens United, domestic and foreign big money interests, and a TP coalition of no-compromise ideologues, I wouldn't expect change any time soon.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 12:24:48 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2013 12:25:10 PM PST
Kaiser Sozey, I find solace in knowing the Kock Brothers and others dumped millions in campaign funding sure that the American sheep would follow their false orders. You can fool the people some of the time but you can't fool the people all the time.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 12:30:41 PM PST
Yeah to what you said :(

I found it really annoying that so many Republicans were so presumptuous as to think I'd have bothered voting, had Rombama been my only "choice."

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 12:42:06 PM PST
Minsky Reincarnated says: "Kaiser Sozey, I find solace in knowing the Kock Brothers and others dumped millions in campaign funding sure that the American sheep would follow their false orders. You can fool the people some of the time but you can't fool the people all the time."

Minsky,

It was heartening but I don't think anyone should be deluded into thinking that big moneyed interests don't still pull the strings. The sets and characters change but the puppet masters run the show out of sight. I'm not into conspiracy theory and I'm not a socialist or communist; history just shows over and over and over that 'Those with the gold make the rules'. Some overplay their hands and lose their heads, but money follows money.

Or...you can subscribe to McKenzie's (Mike Meyers) theory about "the Pentaverat" as he explains it in the movie So I Married an Axe Murderer. His explanation of 'fact' IS much more amusing than my personal theory.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 2:33:39 PM PST
Karl Towers says:
If Citizens United actually has an effect you don't like, you only have your fellow Americans who are fooled by commercials to blame.
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