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Iowa Says You Can Be Fired For Being Too Sexy


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Initial post: Dec 22, 2012 4:57:14 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 22, 2012 4:57:39 PM PST
Taking a break from the gun debate for a moment I give you this gem:

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"Can a boss fire an employee he finds attractive because he and his wife, fairly or not, see her as a threat to their marriage?

Yes, the Iowa Supreme Court ruled Friday.

The case concerns her client's employment as a dental assistant. Nelson worked for James Knight in 1999 and stayed for more than 10 years at the Fort Dodge business.

During the last six months of Nelson's employment, Nelson and Knight, both married with children, started sending text messages to each other outside of work. Neither objected to the texting.

Knight's wife, who was employed at the same dental office, found out about those messages in late 2009 and demanded he fire Nelson.

In early 2010, he did just that. In the presence of a pastor, Knight told Nelson she had become a "detriment" to his family and that for the sakes of both their families, they should no longer work together, the decision read. Knight gave Nelson one month's severance.

In a subsequent conversation between Knight and Nelson's husband, Knight said Nelson had done nothing wrong and that "she was the best dental assistant he ever had," the decision read.

Nonetheless Iowa's district court and later it's Supreme Court both sided with Knight."
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Wow! When did Iowa become part of Saudi Arabia?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 4:59:35 PM PST
It must be the water in Iowa, being tainted with pig poop and all.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:01:38 PM PST
Maybe they are eating too much GMO corn there. Prairie flyover states are weird as heck.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:04:00 PM PST
I guess I'm unemployable in Iowa.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:04:53 PM PST
TucsonCoyote says:
This is what happens when you let Iowans marry. :-?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:09:57 PM PST
Didn't Iowa go to Obama this last election?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:18:30 PM PST
BTW: Does Ms. Nelson have a phone number...and her Dental Tech outfit ?

Posted on Dec 22, 2012 5:24:52 PM PST
I heard about this one! Wow! LOL! That is just crazy!

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 11:45:30 AM PST
gginnc says:
No one posting on this site should be concerned.

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 11:47:10 AM PST
south texas says:
there has got to be more to this than just being too pretty.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 11:52:37 AM PST
Aqualung says:
as usual, there is..............the doctor's wife became "concerned" after the tech & the boss started exchanging emails. she demanded her husband fire this lady.

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 11:57:10 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 24, 2012 11:57:51 AM PST
Joe Anthony says:
If being sexy can you fired, then I've got plenty of job security.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 12:07:42 PM PST
That includes you, too, you dummy!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 1:31:49 PM PST
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Posted on Dec 24, 2012 2:18:12 PM PST
RT just ran the story, pointedly displaying a group portrait of the judges in their robes. Can you guess their gender?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 2:29:33 PM PST
C. Scanlon says:
yeah like the pastor butting in and making it a religious matter

if he was a mullah, you wing nuts would be all over this

real bad pastoral advice, to fire a long time worker like this to save his shaky marriage, and a REAL stupid legal decision by the courts, but then the US judicial system has all gone to pot

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 2:30:31 PM PST
C. Scanlon says:
in civilized nations, workers have job security, raises and benefits

here after reagan and bush we have nothing

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 3:17:02 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 24, 2012 4:24:08 PM PST
Well yeah, but at-will employment started long before Reagan and Bush. But the US is the only developed country that has it and workers' rights in other developed countries trump ours considerably.

http://www.tlnt.com/2011/11/18/employment-at-will-it-doesnt-apply-to-workers-outside-the-u-s/

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 3:35:03 PM PST
I don't think we'd see unemployment numbers nearly as high as they are if we didn't have at-will employment. Sure companies can get rid of unproductive workers easier but then you've also got frivilous dismissals like this one.

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 4:10:52 PM PST
Actually the concept that at-will employment allows companies unquestioned authority to fire whoever they want is a myth. I've known bank managers that couldn't even fire employees they knew to be stealing without the standard three step system: verbal warning, written warning with improvement plan and final warning. And even then HR needed to approve the action.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 4:17:23 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 24, 2012 4:20:24 PM PST
Might be their company policy, not actual labour laws. It depends on what state you're in whether you can sue for wrongful dismissal or not and on what grounds. And the burden of proof falls on the employee in most cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 4:31:38 PM PST
Tony Bruno says:
The funny thing is that she isn't that good looking....but, it's Iowa.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 24, 2012 5:31:38 PM PST
DCSports says:
The article actually said 'threat to his marriage'. The OP interpreted that as "too sexy". Those are two very different descriptions.

Posted on Dec 24, 2012 5:33:39 PM PST
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Posted on Dec 24, 2012 8:00:48 PM PST
And the War on women continues!
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