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Initial post: Dec 7, 2012 3:12:55 PM PST
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/07/u-s-military-updates-options-for-potential-syria-strike-source-says/

U.S. MILITARY UPDATES OPTIONS FOR POTENTIAL SYRIA STRIKE
"The U.S. military has updated its plans for a potential strike against Syria after intelligence showed that the regime has filled aerial bombs with deadly sarin gas in at least two locations near military airfields, a senior U.S. official said Friday."

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 7, 2012 3:22:57 PM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
Interesting stuff.

Assad's getting pretty desperate, it seems.

'The Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee on Friday warned the Obama administration it must act more urgently to prevent Syria's government from using chemical weapons.

Rep. Mike Rogers told attendees at the IISS Manama Dialogue conference in Bahrian that the United States has a moral obligation to act immediately if there is concrete proof chemical weapons are loaded and being readied for launch.'

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/07/intelligence-chairman-sounds-urgency-over-syrian-chemical-weapons/

Posted on Dec 7, 2012 4:24:15 PM PST
Paid for with what? More China loans? Stupid beyond belief to spend any more money in the Middle East cesspool.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 7, 2012 4:27:42 PM PST
yeah, it's not like we have any national interests there....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 7, 2012 7:49:18 PM PST
Oh my goodnesss,....Muslims killing Muslims,...it's just,...well,...terrible.

Maybe there should be a meeting at the UN to discuss it?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 3:44:05 AM PST
The US needs to stay out of it. They are no threat to us, have never been a threat to us, and will never be a threat to us. No need to get bogged down in ANOTHER ME war.

Posted on Dec 8, 2012 3:47:21 AM PST
If we're not going to make the situation better, and I don't see how we would, we need to stay out of it. Bush's adventure in nation building has already cost us enough, money and lives.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 6:44:58 AM PST
We didn't get "bogged down" in Libya, and we created good will for ourselves by helping our allies and the Libyan people get rid of a dictator who was slaughtering his own people and refusing to acknowledge their legitimate democratic aspirations. I don't see why under the right set of circumstances we wouldn't do that again.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 6:46:40 AM PST
It all depends on how it is done. Libya is a good example of doing it right: we waited until there was agreement from the Arab League and from our allies in NATO that we needed to act, then we contributed our unique capabilities and let our partners do the rest.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:04:13 AM PST
Yeah and replaced him with... hell, roving bands of bandits. Good job USA. Getting involved in another countries civil war is not in the best interest of the US. Libya was a mistake that will create blowback for us. Its time for us to end this idiotic meddling in the ME and stop thinking we can solve the worlds problems by bombing people. Every time we meddle it blows up in our faces. Time to stop.

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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:10:04 AM PST
S. Evans says:
Jonathan "Jimmy Dean" Lane:... says: "Yeah and replaced him with... hell, roving bands of bandits. Good job USA. Getting involved in another countries civil war is not in the best interest of the US. Libya was a mistake that will create blowback for us. Its time for us to end this idiotic meddling in the ME and stop thinking we can solve the worlds problems by bombing people. Every time we meddle it blows up in our faces. Time to stop. "

Amen. We have more than enough problems at home to work on.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:36:10 AM PST
America, where we don't have any problems so we have to solve everyone els's.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:41:00 AM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
There's a CNN article today that sez the conflict in Syria may be approaching its endgame.

The rebels have made significant progress during the past few weeks.

What will happen if Assad starts using chemical weapons is a prolongation and brutalization of the civil war.

If it takes a few air strikes to prevent that threshold from being crossed, it's probably worth it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:41:41 AM PST
and now al queda is taking over there
iran is taking over irak
syria is run by iran
al queda is taking over egypt

baby bushes adventures in nation building have screwed the usa every time

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:42:23 AM PST
they cant solve ours
or wont

so they divert attention by causing problems in other places

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:43:01 AM PST
not to me
not to the usa
not to nato
not to isreal

let them fix their own problems

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:44:05 AM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
Turkey is in NATO and they're concerned about Syria's chemical weapons.

So you don't know wtf you're talking about.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:45:22 AM PST
Most objective people would agree that Libya is better off without Khaddaffi. Agree that some of our interventions have been poorly thought out and/or poorly conducted. But that in itself is not a reason to oppose all intervention of any kind in a region of the world in which we have important national security interests at stake. Such as the fact we get 20% of our oil from the Persian Gulf.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:45:47 AM PST
turkey is worried
nato doesnt want another silly adventure like baby bush loved

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:46:53 AM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
Oh yeah, 'baby bush'.

What did you call him? 'The most evil man that ever lived'?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:46:56 AM PST
Right. And our problems at home could get a lot bigger very quickly due to developments in the Middle East. That's why we need to continue to be involved in the Middle East. But we need to be smart about it. IMO our involvement in Libya was a good example of how to be involved in a smart way.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:47:38 AM PST
The two are not mutually exclusive. We are connected to the rest of the world in many ways. There is no bright line between domestic and foreign issues/problems.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:48:00 AM PST
Agree.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2012 7:49:42 AM PST
What on earth do we have to gain from such intervention? Would it have helped us to have England or France intervene in our civil war to stop the slaughter of hundreds of thousands? No? This is another countries civil war, between a government and a segment of its population. Some people support the government, some people support the rebels. What is the point of choosing FOR THEM which side wins? What is the point of needlessly and idiotically getting involved in other peoples affairs? Oh, is this going to be like the Libyan "no fly zone"? Where we say its just to stop them from using their Air Force, but then start attacking troops, convoys, etc? This is a Syrian war. Leave it to the Syrian's to decide it then.

Why is it were so desperate to throw our military might around every chance we get? Do we not grow tired of constantly sticking our noses where they don't belong? Do we not get tired of having these interventions blow up in our faces? What good did our involvement in Libya and Egypt get us? None. Now instead of regimes formally allied to the US we have Islamists and bandits running these countries. Its time we quite this and settle our OWN problems.

You need to take the log out of your own eye before pointing out the splinter in another.
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