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the usa will break up - what states do you think will unite together


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Initial post: Nov 8, 2012 8:41:46 AM PST
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Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:45:42 AM PST
I don't think a breakup is a terrible idea at all.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:52:31 AM PST
When I was young, people on the right used to call me "un-American" because I was rather vocal in criticizing all the things I thought were wrong with the country. I still think many (but not all) of those things are wrong. But never, ever did I question the basics of the American system or applaud the possible breakup of the country.

Today, the right-wing in America has slouched even further to the right. And now, because a centrist who occasionally lists left and also happens to be not quite white has been re-elected president, rightists are calling for the breakup of the United States.

And these are the people who accuse us of not being truly American? This is the audacity of mope.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:53:44 AM PST
But why is it a bad idea?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:53:51 AM PST
the so called right wing is far left

the dems are so far out in left field you can touch alpha centauri

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Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:56:11 AM PST
Richard:

Rightie dictionary - "Being American" equals "agrees with them." Oddly enough, in their vocabulary, succession does not equal traitor. I would suggest that the more mature way for all our rightie friends to handle this disappointment is to hold their breathe until they turn blue.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 9:09:43 AM PST
Ann- the secession thread was from the left's perspective, started by a leftie to insult the right.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 9:14:49 AM PST
freedom4all says:
You forget the nuclear reality:
No nation with nukes has ever been invaded.
No nations with nukes have ever had a war with each other.
The risk of nuclear war keeps the peace.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 9:29:02 AM PST
Terry L says:
I'm going with wherever the libertarians take over. Next in line would be the conservatives. No way am I going with the liberals. They would all want me to work and take my money so they don't have to work. Those liberal states, full of nothing but liberals, will fail.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 9:47:45 AM PST
I am in Texas. The rest of you can go to hell.

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T. Grant says:
Any state that allows only one kind of temperament will fail.

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy jokingly presents a planet that is inhabited completely by shoe salesmen (as evolution supposedly selected that personality as possessing the best menu of desirable traits). Because there was no one to design or build homes, design or manufacture clothing, plan roads, etc., each shoe salesman carries around a box with one pair of ancient shoes, and everyone spends their day walking through the forest (in some sort of leaf covering), trying to sell their pair of shoes to other shoe salesmen.

The moral of the story is (of course) that we should not want all people to be the same as we are. It takes all kinds.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 9:51:34 AM PST
Brian Curtis says:
"I am in Texas. The rest of you can go to hell."

Why would we want to join you there?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 9:58:06 AM PST
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T. Grant says:
The United States will NOT BREAK UP!

I understand that this is a part of the libertarian plan, and I reject it outright and completely. The strength of this nation will not be diluted. We will not yield to the transnational organized criminals and mafias around the world, or to those who use manipulation to undermine the resolve of our people.

And, we will continue to face and fix the places where we weren't living up to our own promise and potential --realizing that if we truly want to call ourselves "exceptional," we must continue to address the places in our behavior that are hypocritical (such as discrimination, unequal pay for the same work, digital and product dumping, over seas sweat shops, and so on.)

We will continue to be the voice of hope for those oppressed in many countries, and a defender of human rights. We are "one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 9:59:43 AM PST
Terry L says:
With Obama, that is where we are headed.

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Terry L says:
The problem with that is that a large number of people in this country no longer cares about the country; they only care about getting something free. They don't care if we are in debt. They don't care what anything costs. They only care about getting something for free because they are not paying taxes anyway. Since someone else is paying for what they get for free, they do not care.

So divide the country, put the parasites on one side and the producers on the other and only then will the parasites learn that maybe they need to start being producers or they will starve.

We are no longer "one nation." We are divided between the producers who care about the future of the country and the parasites who do not.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:08:26 AM PST
Rhea D. says:
I remember when just a few years ago the Democrats in the Senate Plus Lugar were called "Unamerican" because they wanted to put the Iraq War in the budget to account for how much debt that turkey was taking on.

Of course when Democrats are fiscally responsible they are called "traitors" and "unpatriotic". Which makes the Karl Rove defeat this week that much sweeter.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:10:24 AM PST
Rhea D. says:
Texans apparently love hell. They love also love global warming because it makes their state have exactly the same climate as hell.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:26:07 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 10:30:41 AM PST
T. Grant says:
Terry LC,

I do not believe these things to be true. I do not believe that most of our citizens are "parasites."

I have worked with children and families in the inner city, and find that intelligence is not rare, and that hope springs eternal with each new generation.

My field is cognitive science (with a focus on developmental neurobiology) -- so I see the differences that occur when children get the essential experiences and care they need (especially from zero to nine+ years old). We may say that we are philosophical and thinking human beings, but we are also "intricate and subtle molecular machines" with some very specific needs. It has been my experience that when these needs are met -amazing things can happen. From my perspective, it is unconscionable that we let so much human potential, creativity and intelligence go unrealized and unfulfilled.

Currently 6,000 students drop out of school per day (an average of one American child every 26 seconds). In 2009, the dropout rate for low-income students was five times greater than their high-income counterparts. Economic research has conclusively shown that education and early intervention provides an annual return of almost "10 cents per year on every initial dollar invested".

If the dropout rate were to decrease, the profits to our nation, to our communities, and to individuals and their families would be enormous and exponential. It would increase the number of CONTRIBUTING and HEALTHY members of society -- and decrease the need for entitlements.

We, as a nation, claim to believe that within each person resides dignity that has been "endowed by our Creator." I think that if we actually honored the innate worth of each person- our country could be a very different place.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:27:55 AM PST
Brian Curtis says:
Yes, keep assuming that...

And keep wondering why America keeps rejecting your candidates too.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:31:27 AM PST
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south texas says:
you need to get out more because we have a wide variety of climates. if this is hell then i am happy.

americans are too comfortable and the country is too stable to break up. the only reason i see anyone getting off the couch or even caring about anything other than themselves is:

cable going out - no surivour/big brother/voice etc
no food
no power
no fuel
no federal services

if the above was too happen for a time, we could have and issue.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:38:06 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 10:49:44 AM PST
T. Grant says:
Seriously. There is no need to diss the great state of Texas : D

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 10:40:05 AM PST
south texas says:
you are correct, but we always take the brunt of all hatred.

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