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Does Cheating on Your Wife Make You Less of a Military Expert?


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Initial post: Nov 12, 2012 4:07:22 AM PST
MTK says:
I think not. This hubub over General Petraeus' cheating seems to be overwhelmingly out of proportion in comparison to the important job he was doing as Head of the C.I.A. Let his romantic life alone and let the blackmailers get their day in court. Romantic and professional life should be kept separate. This man was NOT an elected official.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 4:12:00 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
I disagree. Both General Petraeus and Lt. Colonel Paula Broadwell, his reported lover, were graduates of West Point. The Corps of Cadets does not tolerate liars. It's dishonorable and truth is critical in combat.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 4:13:47 AM PST
Voice of god says:
Well, it's not a great job for someone who apparently sucks at keeping secrets.

And I don't see what being an elected official has to do with one's personal life, unless you're a hypocrite preaching family values that you don't practice.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:14:11 AM PST
How about Oliver North?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:15:01 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
How about Oliver North?

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 4:16:07 AM PST
Bad Grandpa says:
No, but having classified information end up on her computer may make you a military expert with really poor judgement.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:18:13 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
She taught courses in counter-terrorism at West Point. I suppose there would all kinds of information on her computer.

She's a Lieutenant Colonel with advanced degrees. What's her security clearance?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:19:36 AM PST
Want to know your opinion of Oliver North. A hero of the right and one of the biggest liars and unethical people to ever come out of West Point. I saw him question the loyalty of a disabled Medal of Honor winner for questioning him about breaking the law during Iran-Contra.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:20:31 AM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
CIA can probe wherever it wants.

Especially the boss.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:24:54 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:25:49 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
It's probing the boss under the desk that seems to be the issue here, Bairn.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:27:27 AM PST
Smallchief says:
John says: Both General Petraeus and Lt. Colonel Paula Broadwell, his reported lover, were graduates of West Point. The Corps of Cadets does not tolerate liars. It's dishonorable and truth is critical in combat.

Smallchief replies: Now and then we agree, John. Resignation when you've screwed up, taking responsibility for your acts, is what an honorable person does. And Petraeus resignation letter was honest. He didn't blame anybody else.

Personally, I don't give a damn whether Petaeus had an affair or not, but obviously this wacko woman (Broadwell) was impacting his capability to do his job. He did what he should have. He resigned.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:27:35 AM PST
Voice of god says:
Congratulations. You ruined a perfectly good joke.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:30:48 AM PST
MTK says:
Romantic judgement and Military Judgement are two fields that can hardly be considered on equal grounds. We are all experts to some degree in the field of romance- but please do not ask me to make military combat decisions! I have neither the expertise nor want the responsibility of our troops overseas! Petraeus is amongst a very elite class of soldier who is prepared to lead American soldiers through a complex web of strategies. A failed marriage does not make him immediately useless to the CIA.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:33:16 AM PST
Bad Grandpa says:
This is basically no different than the CIA ho-a-thon that took place down in Colombia. The only difference was the exchange of info. and publicity for her book instead of money.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:35:05 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
What makes you think that Broadwell was a "wacko woman", Smallchief?

I haven't seen anything solid that support that. Have you?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:36:19 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
Wasn't that the Secret Service "ho-a-thon", Al Dente? They're not part of the CIA.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:38:57 AM PST
Wulfwig Fox says:
That was a CIA joke, JML.

Laugh or die.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:47:45 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
Hence the term "die laughing," eh?

LOL !!!!!!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:50:50 AM PST
Smallchief says:
John says: I haven't seen anything solid that support that. Have you?

Smallchief replies: You don't think that sending threatening e-mails to another person, a woman, is wacko? Especially if you're a woman involved with the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency? Don't you think that a non-wacko in possession of her senses would realize that discretion was absolutely necessary? That the affair had to be conducted in absolute secrecy?

Of course, half the fault of the affair is his...maybe more than half because he's the big, important guy who should know better.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 4:52:25 AM PST
I was about to reply to John's post, but this. If the story is anything like what I've read, Broadwell kind of lost her mind.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 4:53:28 AM PST
Bill Clinton said that he was appalled.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 5:11:48 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 12, 2012 5:15:06 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
My concern, Smallchief, is that I recall Bill Clinton's famous "nuts and sluts" strategy for personally destroying women who charged him with misconduct. Hillary was a part of the "Bimbo Eruption Squad" that did the dirty work.

Paula Broadwell may, indeed, have gone nuts and threatened Jill Kelley in a fit of jealous rage. It's also possible that Jill Kelley is trying to destroy her. How many e-mails did Broadwell send, if any? One source said five another mentioned only one. A third said "many." We also don't know what they said. One paraphrase indicated that they were threatening in tone if Kelley didn't stay away from Petraeus. That could mean other things, though. Maybe Broadwell discovered that Kelley was engaged in espionage, or some other nefarious activity? There's simply no way to identify the facts of this without somebody digging them up.

Broadwell has a good record and doesn't strike me as the kind of person who'd "go off" like this? I can't find out much about Kelley, but that is concerning in its own right and we are dealing with the Clintons and my impression of them is that they lie all the time and are masters of deceit.

You're speculating and so am I. That's why Congress, or somebody, needs to sort this out. Not knowing is worse than seeing all the dirty laundry.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 5:14:07 AM PST
Evidently he was "All In".

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 5:25:42 AM PST
Grim says:
Lane--
You don't remember Iran/Contra? You don't remember when the President of the United States secretly sold arms to the Iranians, who were under an arms embargo because they had stormed our embassy and taken US citizens hostage. Reagan engineered the illegal sale of weapons to our enemies because he wanted to give some illegal support to the Contras, a militant right-wing group that was waging a terror campaign against the democratically elected government of Nicaragua.
The President committed treason. A dozen Reagan White House officials were indicted or convicted (and latter given get-out-of-jail-free cards by GHWB). But you don't remember it?
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