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Initial post: Dec 16, 2012 4:52:44 PM PST
There are 700,000 police officers in the US, There are almost 3 million retired police in the US as well. In total 3.7 million armed and trained man and women who are dedicated to keeping the populace safe.

Require these individuals to carry their firearms, and ask them to visit schools and other public venues as often as possible.

You almost quadruple the number of police available over night.

Allow teachers who are willing to be trained to carry firearms (Just like we do airline pilots)

A REAL solution, that you on the left will of course object too for political advantage.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 5:29:13 PM PST
all competent citizens should be required to own and be proficient with guns and any who want to carry concealed should be able to do it without any license or fees or restrictions

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 5:57:08 PM PST
A. Caplan says:
Don Mcdougall says: Require these individuals to carry their firearms, and ask them to visit schools and other public venues as often as possible.
>All low enforcement officers and retired law enforcement officers are allowed to carry concealed firearms in any state and territory, except in places specifically forbidden under state law, such a courthouses in Florida. However, law enforcement officers out side their jurisdiction and retired police officers are not permitted to possess a weapon in or near schools, including universities, under federal, and in Florida, state law.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 6:00:55 PM PST
A. Caplan says:
andthehorseirodeinontoo? says: all competent citizens should be required to own and be proficient with guns and any who want to carry concealed should be able to do it without any license or fees or restrictions
>Concealed weapons permits in Florida are how the state determines, within the best of its ability, the permit holders are competent and have at least a minimal knowledge of applicable laws. The fees cover the cost of licensing.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 6:02:21 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 6:03:40 PM PST
RichieV says:
A. Caplan says:
However, law enforcement officers out side their jurisdiction and retired police officers are not permitted to possess a weapon in or near schools, including universities, under federal, and in Florida, state law.
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It is interesting that the toughest gun control laws involve schools and that seems to be a place we've had so many shootings. These criminals ignore gun control laws banning guns in schools, I don't think they will follow any future laws banning guns.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 6:21:30 PM PST
C. Batty says:
So, you are going to PAY the police officers for being on duty 24-7, right?

Posted on Dec 16, 2012 6:28:22 PM PST
DonJuan says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 6:31:59 PM PST
DEEZUS says:
not even close to the same thing.

Posted on Dec 16, 2012 6:56:56 PM PST
freedom4all says:
"An armed society is a polite society."
--- Robert A. Heinlein

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 7:33:47 PM PST
C. Batty says:
I hold doors open for people all the time, but I am not a professional doorman. I would not demand a doorman hold doors open for me in his off hours. If you are not willing to do you job 16 hours a day for free, don't ask it of others.

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 5:52:52 AM PST
gginnc says:
Batty,
If you can not make a distinction between protecting human life,even yours, and holding a door open there is no point trying to explain. Pretty sure most ex-officers would consider being armed to be a benefit to themselves.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 5:55:15 AM PST
C. Batty says:
Nobody would consider being forced to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week beneficial to anyone.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:08:51 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 6:14:22 AM PST
Ice King says:
You want to REQUIRE them to carry their guns? As in make it mandatory?

Who's the fascist again?

I'm all for allowing them to carry guns, which I think they currently are, and I bet a lot of them would have no problem volunteering their time to keep their neighborhoods safe, but requiring that is crazy.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:11:56 AM PST
DonJuan says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:12:58 AM PST
DonJuan says:
"Nobody would consider being forced to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week beneficial to anyone."

Multitasking?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:13:48 AM PST
DonJuan says:
"You want to REQUIRE them to carry their guns? As in make it mandatory?"

Many already do that because it is the right thing to do.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:14:07 AM PST
C. Batty says:
They weren't and aren't professionals either.

Shouldn't this thread be titled "Ways we can sc*w over public employees so the rest of us don't have to do anything or take any actual accountability?"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:15:17 AM PST
DonJuan says:
"They weren't and aren't professionals either."

Retirees aren't professionals any more, in my opinion.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:15:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 6:18:01 AM PST
Ice King says:
And I think that's a great thing. I might be a dirty liberal communist, but I absolutely appreciate the police officers and I have no problem with guns in the right hands.
I just don't think they should be forced to protect us when they're not on the clock.

And while we're talking about police officers and their value to society, maybe we should stop trying to take away their pensions and benefits if we want them to continue keeping us safe after they retire.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:16:24 AM PST
Making people have guns would be just as anti-freedom as not allowing guns. Either way, you lose choice.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:17:17 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 6:18:10 AM PST
DonJuan says:
Batty, on other threads people want to ban "assault weapons" from the citizens/non-professionals. Many do want to take action and hold people accountable.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:22:25 AM PST
C. Batty says:
Great. Lets try those before we go with "force people to work 24-7 for 50,000 a year" stratedgy.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:23:12 AM PST
C. Batty says:
The minute men weren't/aren't a mandatory force either.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 6:25:06 AM PST
freedom4all says:
Chris many people do not understand that freedom is choice without coercion or force.
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