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Initial post: Feb 25, 2012 3:57:00 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 25, 2012 3:58:25 PM PST
J. jones says:
Oil is a drug. It is addictive and there are many "dealers" willing to do anything to keep us hooked because we afford their lifestyles.
I recently read a story of a young lady who could not get off crack cocaine, referred to as "candy". She hit and killed a lady I knew, and kept going. She was supposedly a good girl, so, I am sure she was influenced by the candy. It alters the thinking, impairs the judgment, and causes one to act out of character.

This is what is happening with us as a nation. We don't act like the most powerful nation on earth. When we see the handwriting on the wall, we still continue to pay ungodly amounts for oil. We blame everyone else but ourselves. We pressure the president to get the prices down. We are ready to go to war for something that isn't ours anyway. When will we realize that we need help? Yet, we don't hold speculators accountable. And we don't take a serious look at alternative fuels. There will come a time when there will be no oil. Therefore, we need to stop treating it as if it is a never-ending supply. It's time to get honest with ourselves and stop investing our future in oil. Let's get off the candy!
Check this out.

http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/upfront/debate/index.asp?article=d013111

Posted on Feb 25, 2012 4:13:58 PM PST
Lettuce Prey says:
How many hundreds of billions have been thrown at alternative energy sources? Are you saying that breakthroughs have occurred and are being withheld?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2012 4:56:46 PM PST
I don't think it's the running out of oil that is the problem: it's when the barrel of oil COSTS a barrel of oil to get.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2012 4:57:53 PM PST
MisterTee says:
Bingo. You're pretty sharp, Katrina. That concept is lost on most people.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2012 5:37:30 PM PST
Hahaha. I think that's the common wisdom, but it's easier to say 'run out of oil'. Either way, what is next?

I keep saying it's a National Defense issue. T. Boone Pickens keeps pushing the 'Pickens Plan'.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2012 5:43:11 PM PST
MisterTee says:
It's not a bad plan. We have lots of natural gas and he *does* emphasize alternative technologies.

The market is going to wean us off oil, whether we like it or not.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2012 7:48:47 PM PST
J. jones says:
Posted on Feb 25, 2012 4:13:58 PM PST

healthpro says:

How many hundreds of billions have been thrown at alternative energy sources? Are you saying that breakthroughs have occurred and are being withheld

Not enough money has been "thrown" at alternative energy sources. In my state, alternative energy, including wind and electricity, have saved tens of millions of dollars in just a few years. How much money has been "thrown" at big oil, in the form of welfare checks, or subsidies?

Posted on Feb 26, 2012 7:52:43 PM PST
Why can't we all just drive downhill more often?

Posted on Feb 26, 2012 8:00:21 PM PST
Arrival Of says:
Alternate energies are abundant. Its all about perspective.
May sound a little random but. Those who built the Pyramids would struggle and indeed fail our education system. They simply had a different perspective on how to achieve. Just like now with all we are capable of, we admit we could not replicate their achievements.
Once our species starts to open their minds to the world which surrounds us and the energy which abounds throughout our world we will end the oil crisis we created. We 1st need to shift the way we see life, we need to shift our perspective and reason for living.

Posted on Feb 26, 2012 8:06:33 PM PST
Um...what?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2012 8:07:48 PM PST
shhhhhhh...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2012 8:09:11 PM PST
how about a really big sailboat?

Posted on Feb 26, 2012 8:48:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 26, 2012 8:49:27 PM PST
DarthRad says:
We're not running out of oil.

One of the little known facts is that oil recovery (it's hard to call it just "drilling" anymore, because the technologies have changed so much) has boomed in the US and in Canada. The US is EXPORTING refined oil products to countries that may have oil but not enough refining capacity. As somebody else pointed out in another thread, gas is the US's largest export product now.
Estimates are that by 2016 or so the US will become oil independant again.

Yes, markets do work. It has long been known that the US possesses vast quantities of oil shale. As far back as the first Oil Crisis of the 1970's, people mentioned the oil shale reserves, noting that it would cost some $100 a barrel to extract. At that time oil was $12 a barrel. It seemed like a dream that we would ever get to this oil.

Well, here we are, oil is now over $100 a barrel, and oil shale drilling is a reality, and soon to be one of the major factors in making the US oil independant again.

Canada has already been busy digging up most of Alberta for its tar sands. Canada has huge tar sands reserves.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2012 9:43:26 PM PST
MisterTee says:
<We're not running out of oil>

Nobody that knows anything about the issue, says we are.

We peaked... that's a different concept entirely. The US peaked in Dec 1970, and with all the effort we can amass, we will *never* produce that much oil again.

The world peaked in 2006, and with all the effort we can amass, we will *never* produce that much oil again.

Unfortunately, demand hasn't peaked... nor is it expected (to) anytime soon.

Posted on Feb 27, 2012 1:19:59 AM PST
DarthRad says:
The high oil prices have also made synthetic oil from coal profitable, although start up costs for a plant are huge (a billion or so). The Air Force has sponsored a project to build the first synthetic oil fuel from coal. The US has massive quantities of coal.

Biofuels from a variety of weeds are also been tested, and pilot plants being built. The Navy and Air Force have been very proactive about sponsoring these projects. Their weapons systems won't run on solar or wind power or all the latest green energy technology. Nope, they need oil.

All of these projects have potential to be economically viable once the start up costs are overcome, because of the high price of oil.

By the next decade, I think the US will be in a totally different energy picture. More wind and solar energy for sure, but more homemade oil of all types, almost certainly enough to wean ourselves off Middle Eastern politics.

Posted on Feb 27, 2012 2:58:18 AM PST
Standard in America.240v 60hz at the panel.Stupid.240v 50hz.Better.Safer.More power.Less current.Saves $$$.Caveat.U.S. and Canada.60hz system.50hz appliances.Not compatible.No big deal.Easy fix.Coal used?Yes but less.24-7.365.Reliable power.No wind turbine bird killers.No solar panels covering thousands of acres of land harming plant and animal life on the desert floor below.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 3:59:13 AM PST
The DOE approved what they called loans,more like Thank you for your support in my opinion,to alternative energy companies and what did we get?Nothing.They went belly up shortly there after.Zero energy was produced at a cost in the billions of dollars.Wind farm projects are very heavily subsidized,I doubt any money has been saved in a few years.I could be wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 4:50:54 AM PST
Intrepid says:
Interesting statement and I am very open to more info but the following site does not seem to agree:
http://sound.westhost.com/articles/electrocution.htm

I was taught that the load and skin resistance are of greatest importance.If you are the ground, it may not matter as much how much voltage as the current passing through you. 0.25 amps on moist skin being lethal.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 7:17:36 AM PST
J. jones says:
Posted on Feb 26, 2012 8:00:21 PM PST
Arrival Of says:
Alternate energies are abundant. Its all about perspective.
May sound a little random but. Those who built the Pyramids would struggle and indeed fail our education system. They simply had a different perspective on how to achieve. Just like now with all we are capable of, we admit we could not replicate their achievements.
Once our species starts to open their minds to the world which surrounds us and the energy which abounds throughout our world we will end the oil crisis we created. We 1st need to shift the way we see life, we need to shift our perspective and reason for living.

Jjones says: Well stated

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 7:22:51 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 27, 2012 7:23:22 AM PST
J. jones says:
It is true that we are not running out of oil. That is no excuse to treat oil as if it is will always be readily available. Once other undeveloped countries start competing for it, though, prices will spike higher. Then there's those darn speculators!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 2:02:12 PM PST
Think 1 billion Chinese turning in their bikes for cars.
Then, think India following suit.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 2:21:26 PM PST
MisterTee says:
<No wind turbine bird killers.No solar panels covering thousands of acres of land harming plant and animal life on the desert floor below.>

Damned RW eco-freaks !

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 3:28:13 PM PST
"Damned RW eco-freaks !"
____________________________________________________
Hahaha. Yeah, something ain't Kosher in Kabel with that one.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2012 3:45:37 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 27, 2012 3:45:46 PM PST
MisterTee says:
The RW can't decide if they're playing Twister or doing yoga, but either way they're wearing their own asses as hats !

Posted on Feb 27, 2012 10:15:03 PM PST
I was wondering where that odor was coming from.Thanks.Heaven surely waits for you.
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