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Gilmour vs Water or Gillan vs Blackmore: Which is Dumber?


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Initial post: Mar 18, 2012 7:39:46 PM PDT
Pink Floyd destroyed by the feud between David Gilmour and Roger Waters. Deep Purple decimated by hatred between Ian Gillan and Ritchie Blackmore. They both are incredibly stupid. But which one is more ridiculous?

Posted on Mar 18, 2012 8:13:06 PM PDT
dylanite says:
The Gilmour Waters fued was more then ridiculous it was absured.You had two geniuses in the prime of ther songwriting careers just walk away from each other beacause of there pride.They probably could have made albums that would have made THE WALL look obsolete

Posted on Mar 18, 2012 8:32:20 PM PDT
J. Rood says:
I have to disagree. While it's nice to dream of the awesome music they could have made together, The Wall became Roger Waters' obsession to the point that it has colored everything he's done since with perhaps the exception of the opera he wrote. While this hasn't necessarily been a bad thing it does give him a sort of one-note feel. While David Gilmour's solo stuff may not have been as consistent, he at least has never been tied to a particular theme or idea. Just two divergent roads, I guess, although I seem to remember that they have more or less buried the hatchet between them?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 19, 2012 8:53:56 AM PDT
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stevign says:
It wasn't "Gilmore vs Waters", it was Waters vs the whole damn band. Waters is a megalomaniac who wants "everything " his own way, even at the expense of belittling every member in the band until they had finally had enough. I don't know anything about Deep Purple but I can't imagine Gillan and Blackmore having a bigger and more destructive ego than Waters.

Posted on Mar 19, 2012 10:46:25 AM PDT
Art Franklin says:
Blackmore has come across more bitter than anybody else mentioned here in interviews, so I vote that his feud was dumber. Not to belittle his renaissance music or whatever he does these days, but 3 out of 4 parties are still rockin' their old tunes (although Ian Gillan was just phoning it in when I saw him last but at least he gets to be on stage with guys that play their butts off and are still having fun).

Posted on Mar 22, 2012 3:17:22 PM PDT
Considering there's probably like 200 million people in the world who 'care' about the Gilmour/Waters feud because they'd very much love to see a REAL Pink Floyd show before they die ... and like 20 people who care about Gillan and Blackmore fighting ... I say the Pink Floyd feud is far dumber.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 22, 2012 5:20:57 PM PDT
stevign says:
The Pink Floyd feud isn't "dumb", it's "unfortunate" that one person in the band became so toxic that it all but destroyed the band. A better question about that particular feud would be "Was Roger Waters dumb for being such an egomaniac while enjoying the fruits of such a great and successful band?".

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 12:11:21 AM PDT
Lets remember back in 1973 when Ritchie got Ian to "quit" DP were the top selling musical act in the world. Outselling everyone including Zeppelin, the Stones, and Pink Floyd. They headlined Cal Jam I without Ian and Roger which was a big mistake. They lost momentum and never really recovered. While Floyd would go onto make many more great albums. In fact without Roger Waters Pink Floyd has sold in the multiple millions, while Purple, haven't achieved anything close since those days.

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 2:30:50 PM PDT
Fortizymo ~

Blackmore is a tuff nut and he wanted half of Deep Purple's stage to himself and wasn't happy if anyone crossed over the invisible line he saw between him and the other four guys. Ian, got attention for singing as Jesus in "Jesus Christ Superstar" and then became a legend for those screams that made jet airplanes blush. Ritchie, is an amazing player but he is the original "Spotlight Kid" and doesn't share with others very well. He ripped Deep Purple apart and in Rainbow there were players coming and going for the entire history of the group and when you got Dio, Cozy, Tony & Jimmy why in the H*LL are you going to change that?

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 3:00:12 PM PDT
You are so right Phil. Ritchie has disapponted me so often. I'm his biggest fan, love his music, stage act, everything. He's one of the most talented musicians in history. But why does he continue to sabotage something great, into something less than that?

I.E.: Deep Purple Mk II, Rainbow Mk II. These bands were the best bnds of their eras. But Ritchie personally tore them apart. Would Jimy Page or Pete Townsend do that? No. Hell NO!! But Ritchie did and even now with BN he's wasting his immense talent.

Ritchie, why do you disappoint me so?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2012 3:08:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 25, 2012 3:15:03 PM PDT
When you mention that Ritchie is wasting his immense talent I am reminded of a group called Blackmore's Night and she must be a great li'l piece of tail BUT to be playin' 12th Century lute music with the cast of Stonehenge at some lame castle in Germany in pink tights just to form a band so your girlfriend can sing beddy-bye songs for the kiddies and Hobbits in magical forests........EEEEEEEEEK!

I am saddened that Blackmore is doing this sort of nonsense!

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 3:39:36 PM PDT
It always pisses me off when bands I like dont stay together because of some childish behavior between socalled "adults". That includes substance abuse as childish behavior.
Bands that I have loved that fell apart due to this are-
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Black Sabbath(With both Ozzy & DIO)
Blue Oyster Cult
Alice Cooper
Deep Purple
Dio
Dokken
Exodus
Foghat
Rory Gallagher
Jimi Hendrix
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Led Zeppelin
Montrose
Megadeth
Metallica
Motorhead
Ted Nugent
Ozzy Osbourne
Pantera
Pink Floyd
Queensryche
Rainbow
Sepultura
Slayer
Testament
Thin Lizzy
Robin Trower
UFO
Van Halen

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 4:09:11 PM PDT
Stephen ~

I agree with your posting 100%

BUT

Rock bands are all kinda about foolish/childish behavior and we love em' for that behavior (and even their music!) but, still......IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N" ROLL!

WOOF EDIT: You also need The Stones, The Kinks and The Who on that list for their very bad behavior!
Rock on!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2012 4:16:56 PM PDT
Philip Wolf-The bands listed are ones I love. Im not a fan of Stones, Kinks and especially the who.
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Posted on Mar 25, 2012 4:24:23 PM PDT
Stephen ~

That's cool enough....
Bands on your list I really like
Black Sabbath
Blue Oyster Cult
Alice Cooper
Deep Purple
Foghat
Rory
Jimi
Led Zeppelin
Montrose
Pink Floyd
Rainbow
Robin Trower (greatest guitar player I ever saw live)
UFO

Except for Jimi Hendrix, I have seen all the bands/artists above in live settings.

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 4:33:58 PM PDT
Ive seen about half. BOC, DP, Foghat, Rory, Montrose Rainbow, Trower, UFO and a bunch more. Wish I could've seen Purple early on when it really mattered

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 4:48:21 PM PDT
I saw Purple in Fresno, Ca in 1972 and it was the loudest concert I was ever at (like sticking your head into a jet engine) and I saw them again in 1974 at California Jam. Liked em' better with Ian than with Cloverdale. Rainbow in 1976 ("Rising" tour) was better than both DP shows and Black Sabbath (1980 & 1981 one of these was a "Black & Blue" concert with BOC) was better than Sabbath with Ozzy, but that's just me.....

Posted on Mar 25, 2012 8:35:07 PM PDT
Thats amazing seeing Purple back then. I would do anything to have been there. I've never particularitly liked the Cal Jam show or Mk III for that matter. I did see Rainbow in 1976 for their Rising tour but in San Jose. Since it was an add on its never listed. It was an absolute monster of a show and I'll never forget seeing Ritchie 3 feet from me tearing it up, destroying his guitar and leaving without an encore! I was 18. I have some of the pics I took from that show on my facebook page.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2012 6:55:28 AM PDT
J. Goldsmith says:
AC/DC?? What happened with them?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2012 9:13:20 AM PDT
stevign says:
I think he's saying their music is "Childish Behavior". He's right. ;~}

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2012 10:31:40 AM PDT
J. goldsmith-Bon Scott died due to over drinking. Thats the childish behavior that changed the band for the worst.

Posted on Apr 15, 2012 11:38:30 AM PDT
Both fueds may seem dumb, but at the same time, if I was rich enough to never again have to work with someone I don't like, I'd do it in a hearbeat.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 15, 2012 11:51:21 AM PDT
stevign says:
If I were rich enough I'd never work again period.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 15, 2012 1:27:37 PM PDT
That's even better!

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