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Initial post: May 27, 2011 1:06:58 PM PDT
Alwayz Alive says:
Is it just me or does Lady Gaga sound just like a younger version of Madonna? I mean I understand that gaga has her own "fashion" style but everything else to me seems like a Madonna "re-make".

Posted on May 28, 2011 3:43:26 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2011 7:51:11 PM PDT
W.H. says:
The young Madonna was fresh, fun, lively and lovely. I'm talking about her cheap jewelry, torn lace and "Boy Toy" belt days of the early/mid-1980s.

Sadly, the older she got the more she seemed to feel the pressure to top whatever it was she did last. She became a self-conscious, pretentious bore and her music suffered for it, with the notable exception of "Ray Of Light."

Gaga skipped the fresh and fun part and dove headlong into pretension.

They both have strong voices and a fair degree of genuine talent but they take themselves too seriously and their grim determination to be "unique" (especially Gaga, dressing in muppets and meat) is not unique at all.

So yes, Gaga is somewhat like Madonna. In a bad way. But there is still hope for both of them. Maybe one day "real" will be the new black.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2011 7:16:58 AM PDT
musicfan says:
Well said, W.H.

Posted on May 29, 2011 4:03:47 PM PDT
Joecool says:
Gaga is like a reincarnation of Madonna, only raunchier.

Posted on May 30, 2011 7:05:18 PM PDT
Lady Gaga is Madonna for the young'uns who weren't around for the original. Just a newer package for a newer generation.

I do agree with W.H. about early Madonna. I still love songs like "Lucky Star" and "Burning Up"!

Posted on May 30, 2011 7:25:59 PM PDT
Rip says:
It's good to hear there are others out there who feel the same about Lady GaGa. It's like McDonald's recreating a recipe from Chef Andrea: A cheap imitation of a great original (and I am also talking about the early Madonna).

Posted on May 30, 2011 8:30:04 PM PDT
I think where Madonna has stumbled is in her desperate attempts to stay relevant has actually made her less relevant now. She hasn't allowed herself to grow as an artist as she gets older. Not that she should start playing the zither in a hemp maxi-skirt or something! But the painful truth is the world of dance clubs and fashion and wanton shagging belongs to the young, not to us now middle-agers anymore. It would be great to hear her do new music that reflected hard-won wisdom and wider perspective.

Posted on May 30, 2011 11:41:25 PM PDT
Music Lover says:
I think it is a tie. Neither of them is attractive, neither is an exceptional dancer and neither is much of a singer. The real question is how did they become so famous? The reason is that the public is not the least bit demanding of their icons today. Most of the celebrities they adore are no more beautiful or talented than they are. Anyone could do what they do. However, these ladies marketed themselves skillfully and they have the public eating out of their untalented hands. When we start demanding real talent from performers, they and others like them will be slinging hash, which fits their abilities perfectly.

Posted on May 31, 2011 6:37:35 AM PDT
I think if you look at them more as entertainers than as artists, it makes their work more enjoyable. A little flash and spectacle isn't always a bad thing!
Madonna has had some pretty decent songs in the past.

Posted on May 31, 2011 7:18:16 AM PDT
GarionOrb says:
"It would be great to hear [Madonna] do new music that reflected hard-won wisdom and wider perspective."

Listen to her album American Life. The entire point of that album was her showcasing all the wisdom she's accumulated as she got older...especially surrounding Kabbalah. Unfortunately, the public at large found this record to be overly preachy, and thus rejected it entirely. Since listening to her latest album, Hard Candy, I've come to appreciate American Life completely.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2011 9:01:26 AM PDT
Is that the album where there was a conniption about one of her videos?

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2011 4:01:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 1, 2011 8:29:13 AM PDT
B. rogers says:
Music Lover...you know I love you...but PULEEEZ...Madonna is "not attractive"?!?!

And to all of the other posters that say Madonna was only making good music during her "Like A Virgin" phase....uhhh...it was the few years after that(1986-1993) where she made her best music and got into excellent physical shape to become the hottest woman to ever walk the earth!

Ever seen the "Open Your Heart" video? It's from 1987. The totally delicious "Truth Or Dare" documentary? It's from 1991. Her "Sex" book? It's from 1993. Also, her best album EVER was "Like A Prayer". It was released in the spring of 1989.

Ever see Dick Tracy from 1990? Madonna melts the screen on that one!

She still looks great at 52 with a body that can't be beat.

Posted on Jun 1, 2011 8:27:40 AM PDT
B. rogers says:
I hope my last post didn't make me sound too obsessed with M!

Posted on Jun 1, 2011 6:58:05 PM PDT
A. Marchese says:
I love both!!!

Posted on Jun 3, 2011 12:34:23 AM PDT
Lady Gaga's music lacks talent and originality. Madonna, not so much. Saw Lady Gaga on American Idol... a ton of fanfare for a lackluster song... very forgettable!

Posted on Jun 3, 2011 5:28:42 AM PDT
gambitrmp says:
I like them both just fine. You know what they say. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I have no problem with the fact that Lady Gaga obviosly likes Madonna.

I don't buy much music anymore so I didn't buy any Lady Gaga CD's or anything past Madonna's 5th(?) album.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2011 6:49:09 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2011 7:01:15 AM PDT
club 7 says:
madonna.
c'mon, madonna wrote some of the best pop songs ever and she expertly transformed herself many times in a natural spontaneous manner without one ounce of the self conscious factor.
she is the real deal.
gaga is gimmick first then blatently derivitive music later. some of it good some of it comedic.
kids of the 80's were lucky because we had originals like madonna, prince etc only we didn't know how good we had it

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2011 8:14:47 AM PDT
Dan Lawson says:
It's just you....i never liked Madonnas early stuff and only own certain singles...listened to my daughters fame monster cd, without seeing lady gaga or knowing what tuype of artist she is, the songs and were great and i had to listen to it all the way through...never have i listened to a Madonna album or cd all the way through...without visuals most of madonna's songs cant stand on their own but with lady gaga no visuals are needed her lyrics stand on their own...lady gaga is a great songwriter

Posted on Jun 3, 2011 11:52:42 AM PDT
gambitrmp says:
Bye the way, in terms of imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. I'm glad to see Weirl Al is coming out with a new CD. That I will buy.

With that guy around you almost don't even need greatest hits of the 70's, 80's, etc type compilations ... well esp. if you're a fan of comedy. You get the catchy tune along with a comedy show.

Probably my favorite musical artist of all time partly because he is a good "clone artist". Although he does original work as well.

Posted on Jun 4, 2011 10:02:55 PM PDT
PlanetHell says:
Lady Gaga has similarities to Madonna, but she also has similarities to Qwen Stefani, and owes much to music of pop day's past, as well as Europop dance groups, especially ones like Cascada. However, she has taken things to new heights. Her CD's are more variated than Madonna or Qwen or Britney Spears. What about her voice? She changes it to different types, going between a pop voice to a deep voice, and of course there's the auto-tune version (about the only thing I'd wish she'd tone down). I'd say her music is far louder and exciting, which is why the newer generations eat it up like crazy. I also feel that Lady Gaga is a better preformer live, not lip-synching or hoping the special effects will save it, because they'd done have to. You'd be suprised at how different the songs do not sound with her singing them live.
But I like all these people. Madonna "Frozen" is one of the most beautiful songs ever, but "Bad Romance" has got to be one of the most bombastic dance-pop songs I've ever heard. All have good points.
But Lady Gaga is not Madonna. Not a copy, not exactly like. That is just all of the elders whining about nothing because they have nothing better to do.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2011 6:40:33 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 8, 2011 6:43:28 AM PDT
club 7 says:
planethell:
yes it's true gwen stefani is also an influence but to me lady gaga's influences come off in her music not as influences but rather like another singer trying to do the vocal mannerisms and basically do a carbon copy of other artists.
examples:
alejandro-complete blatent rip off of ace of base
born this way-blatent rip off of madonna *even the way she talks the words "do be a drag just be a queen" in this song are just like madonna
you and i-absolute blatent rip off of shania twain
edge of glory-rip off of pat benetar
and the list goes on but where the heck is gaga?
her fashion is a hodge podge of influences from peter gabriel to madonna but she makes a better case of originality in her clothes than in her music.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2011 7:46:11 AM PDT
KP says:
I don't see how just because has a different style of fashion then most average people that makes her somehow less "real". I hate how people use the term "real" to basically just describe themselves and anybody who isn't like them is automatically not real. To fat people, skinny people aren't "real" and to people with mainstream tastes avant garde fashion is somehow not "Real" enough for them. Avant garde style of fashion and art has been around for ages ,Gaga didn't invent it, the only difference is that Gaga is giving it more mainstream attention. I can see how someone ignorant enough might perceive it as pretentious and not "real" but in actuality its just a different way of looking at things.

Posted on Jun 8, 2011 7:52:03 AM PDT
MarcoVG4 says:
= Supertramp vs. Cheap Trick

Posted on Jun 8, 2011 7:54:57 AM PDT
Gaga is a pale imitiation of Madonna.

Posted on Jun 8, 2011 10:04:58 AM PDT
DDB9000 says:
To paraphrase Pete Towhshend...

Meet the new crap, same as the old crap...
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