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Emehntehtt-Re: the new MAGMA album

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Initial post: Dec 23, 2009 10:40:00 PM PST
clearcutter says:
I recall there are at least a handfull of diehard Magma fans on this forum besides myself, so this thread is for you guys. Has anyone heard the new album?

I have heard a few excerpts and it sounds at least as good as Kohntarkosz Anteria released a couple of years ago. Just like KA, this new album was actually composed in the mid-70s but Christian Vander couldn't get it recorded then. Ironically, the album Kohntarkosz released in the early 70's is the FINAL movement, of which KA was the second movement and the new album is the FIRST movement!

This explains why at least one song on the new album I recognized as that fantastic song "Hhai" from the 1975 Magma live album. Pretty amazing that the "studio" version should be recorded for the first time 35 years later!

Anyway, if anyone picks up Emehntehtt-Re, post here what you think of it. It will be awhile before I can buy it--I'm broke.

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 6:17:42 AM PST
I haven't bought it yet, but I plan to within the next month. I'm definitely one of the "diehard Magma fans on this forum" of which you speak :o)

I have several live tapes from the past few years, and they've been performing the 55-minute work in its entirety pretty regularly, so I have a good idea of what to expect. The "Hhai" segment is definitely a highlight of the piece, but notice it also contains the segment known as "Rindë (Eastern Song)", previously released on its own on the Attahk album from 1978, early in the piece.

Hope you're able to get it soon, P Quijada! It should be a doozy!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 15, 2010 12:01:40 PM PST
Definitely a unique band. I'm curious about the new one, too. Interesting that the different movements have been released in reverse order! As for KOHNTARKOSZ - - great album. Their best, I think.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 15, 2010 3:37:49 PM PST
clearcutter says:
thanks for the responses Rare Goat and Mark. I haven't owned Attahk for many years so I don't remember the song Rindë, but an interesting tidbit nevertheless.

I find that the Magma fans I've known seem to fall into 2 camps regarding their best album: Kohntarkosz vs. Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh. They certainly are two very different albums. One of the reasons I like Kohntarkosz Anteria so much is that it blends the more fluid jazziness of Kohntarkosz with some suggestions of the relentless onslaught of MDK. Can't wait to see where the new album falls into place.

(Personally for me, Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh is in my top five greatest prog albums of all time. There is nothing else like it in rock music; you have to go to classical--Orff and Stravinsky--to find comparisons).

Posted on Jan 18, 2010 5:18:11 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 18, 2010 5:22:04 PM PST
clearcutter says:
All right, I heard it. I drove 110 miles to my brother's house and listened to it loud in the dark.

It's fantastic. I've really come to like the previous album, KA, as one of my favorite Magma efforts, but the new album is more dynamic and more melodic. Plus it showcases Vander's drumming at its absolute best. Also on the plus side it's a little more rocking than KA which is skewed slightly more toward the free jazz side of Magma. And as icing on the cake, the second half of the album is full of the growling Zeuhl-style bass work that they invented but which I haven't really heard for a long time from them on their studio efforts.

For anyone who ever wanted to investigate Zeuhl, I'm going to start recommending this album as a starting place

EDIT: By the way, my wife was with me when I heard it. She said they sound like the Manhattan Transfer on a really bad acid trip. Definitely not music for everybody.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 21, 2010 11:05:54 AM PST
P. Quijada,

I still haven't gotten it (laziness? waiting for expenses to cool off?), but I'm glad you did, and glad it seems to be as good as I'd expect it to be. On the sliding scale of favorite Magma epics, Ementehtt Re ranks just a wee bit higher than KA (based on live performances I've heard), but both are long lost masterpieces that I never could have dreamed would finally see the light of day in a recording studio (not to mention on stage). Magma was long defunct when I first fell in love with them, and when I got to see them live in 1999, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Little did I know or expect that this reformation of the group would be a) so long-lived, b) so productive, and c) such high quality, on a par with the classic '70s lineups.

Posted on Jan 21, 2010 11:07:11 AM PST
By the way, my favorite piece of music, period, is "Kohntarkosz". To me, it's the ultimate spiritual music experience.

Posted on Jan 21, 2010 3:49:13 PM PST
clearcutter says:
I hear you, Rare Goat.
When I heard in the late 90s that Vander had reformed the band and was touring, I couldn't believe it.(I had the luck to discover Magma in '73, my first year as a prog rock fan).
Then I believed it but couldn't believe the new band could match the old band.
Then my brother saw them in San Francisco in 1999 and I knew from his raving that the new band really had the mojo of the old with no compromise of Vander's original vision.
And now...that the subsequent studio work can stand proudly with the 70's works: what more can we ask?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 26, 2010 7:01:00 AM PST
P. Quijada,

re: Then my brother saw them in San Francisco in 1999

That's the show I saw! I have a recording of it as well.

Posted on Mar 15, 2010 10:22:36 AM PDT
Finally got this album, appropriately enough, while in San Francisco last week.

Oh... My... Gawd....
Fantastic album, that's all I've got to say. Even better than KA.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 15, 2010 6:45:27 PM PDT
clearcutter says:
Yee-haw! Glad you finally have it. Yeah, KA is a great album but this one's a killer. I've been listening to it almost every other day for close to 2 months. I'm a junkie for the intensity of its second half. I'm hoping my brother doesn't ask for his copy back anytime soon!
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