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Initial post: Sep 7, 2009 6:56:23 AM PDT
Jay says:
I have heard countless pros and cons for a million different activities to help someone who is going through depression. Whether it's positive affirmations, healing crystals thi, or SSRI's everyone seems to have what they view as a "valid" opinion on this issue. Based solely on verifiable science what is your take on depression and how to avoid/overcome it? If you do not have science to back up your reasoning, then why do you believe it? Did it work for you personally? Why do you think it worked? Thank you very much for your time. Have a great day!

Posted on Sep 7, 2009 7:24:37 AM PDT
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Posted on Sep 7, 2009 10:41:17 AM PDT
I've had my share of mild and transient depression. I usually can tell, when I don't want to get out of bed in the morning. Or I can't shake that "blah" feeling for a few days. That's when I think and evaluate, and take steps, like job-hunting (which is risky in this recession) or having a serious heart-to-heart talk with my hubby.

If I want to shake it fast, I'll drink a heavily caffeinated soda, like Coke. I'll get that burst of energy to get up and do things, maybe even try a new activity I've always wanted to tackle, and soon the "blahs" are gone.

Contrary to the poster in Science, I think laymen sharing advice for non-serious medical conditions is both helpful and inspiring. I would never presume to tell a medical professional how to treat or prescribe. And they, in turn, should never presume to tell people that we can't ask non-professional peers for advice and ideas. Sometimes, for non-serious conditions, "what works" is simple and free advice.

Just recently, the medical community has taken some hits for over-doctoring. More false-positive results have turned up in mobile mammograms, resulting in fear and painful treatments that were totally unnecessary. And another study just out says that most men can live just fine with prostrate cancer, that the rush to diagnose and treat can be more dangerous to the men than just living with the disease. (One article said that "most men die with prostrate cancer, than from it.")

Posted on Jan 19, 2010 5:22:49 PM PST
Maritsa says:
1. Drink milk; 2. Reconsider the relationship you are in; 3. Excersize; 4. Get good company and do things outside of your routine like go out on a night you wouldn't ordinarily.

Posted on Jan 22, 2010 3:45:17 PM PST
J. Samples says:
Depression is a serious mental illness, so I don't mean to make it seem easily curable, but for my previous intense suffer with anxiety (which is often comorbid with depression), one of the most effective ways of dealing with negative thoughts was to remind myself that they do not necessarily hold any fragment of truth. For me, negative thoughts often added to or created my depressed feelings. Optimism and positive thoughts held the key to freedom from anxiety and depression. An excellent way to become educated on the other side of the depression spectrum is to take a course or read a book about positive psychology, which was also very helpful to me. In addition to this, I found that making myself do the things I was afraid of doing or too upset to do, even though I didn't want to do them, was essential to my daily functioning. Discovering the power to do those things even in the midst of my depression and anxiety was very freeing.

Posted on Mar 1, 2010 11:17:06 PM PST
Bala Sankar says:
Depression; Is it a symptom? or a cause?
I think, Depression is a symptom. You need to identify the cause and treat the cause.

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Posted on Mar 2, 2010 11:24:48 AM PST
Teslacoil says:
I have suffered with major depression for over 7 years. I am not a doctor, but have certainly read a lot of medical research and experienced serious depression firsthand. I would never characterize my episodes as the "blahs" (they were far more severe than that, although I could function and fake my way through each day) I am now at the end of the tunnel. My wife (a saint) just welcomed me back to the "land of the living" last week, and 4 year-old son remarked that I'm happier now.

Here's my list, although every person's is somewhat different:

1)Don't listen to what your depression tells you, or do what your depression tells you to do. It won't end well. (See J.Sample's post above)

2)Find a good MD. It's okay to switch until you find the right one, but never "fire" the old one before you've found the new one. A good MD will not be afraid to switch meds (at the right time) if you're not responding well to the one you're on. Cymbalta and Buspar work for me, Abilify turned me into a comatose zombie.

3)Find a good therapist. Cognitive behavioral therapy works for me.

4)Resist the urge to self-medicate with alcohol. It's a depressive. Seek help if you need it. I know nothing about self-medication with nicotine or drugs.

5)Nutrition is key. I turned a big corner when I cut back on processed foods and ate mostly fruits, grains, and veggies...No, I'm not a vegetarian and no, milk or Coke never worked for me.

6)Get the right supplements. (ask your doctor) My supplements include EPA, DHA, B-complex and PS-100 (among others)

7)Follow Millionrainbow's advice above. It's hard for anybody to reevaluate one's life, but if you don't make changes (even small ones) you'll never get out.

Depression is a serious mental illness. It's one that can't be overcome by thinking happy thoughts or eating lots of cake (You wouldn't tell a blind person, "Just LOOK!", or "Open your eyes!", would you?) Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share my experiences. My best wishes to all of you.

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Posted on Mar 8, 2010 2:33:13 AM PST
Lisa Lovett says:
I've suffered from anxiety and depression since I was 4 years old.I am now 52. I also have been dianosed with PTSD ( from a childhood most don't survive) ans Adult ADD. Once I found a good Psychiatrist plus therapy...I am much better. 10 years ago I went through 5 different Anti-deppressant meds..none of which did a thing. Then because my friends were all over me to see a psychiatrist ( I've been in therapy since I was 20.) becausae I"looked like a human vibrator). I went to a new psychiatrist. We went through 16 anti-deppresant and anti-anxiety meds. One I gained 30 pounds in 4 weeks on. Another I lost a month. Apparently friends called my shrink and he pulled me off that med. I don't remember. We were going to flush all of the meds, but during our conversation...it was like a lightbulb went off in his head. He handed me a paper with 30 or 40 symptoms on it. I had about 35 of them. Now I feel as close to what I believe most people must feel like. My son was clinically depressed and suicidal ....now he's off all meds and goes back to therapy when he feels it. My Dad was bi-polar and had PTSD and ADD before they knew what they were. I believe that if you do try meds....you need to have therapy, too. You have to find the cause.....but even if you know why you are the way you are..it doesn't make it go away.
Two great book are "Undercurrents: A Life Beneath the Surface" and "Chasing Grace" by Martha Manning, a clinical psychologist.

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Posted on Mar 10, 2010 11:20:40 PM PST
Bala Sankar says:
Nobody was born with depression; everyone is born healthy; and for some reason they get depressed; Just like polio, or any other disease, can it be completely and totally eliminated. Is it possible to build a future society free from depression? Does everyone have to suffer? We need to get to the root cause. Once we understand the root cause, then we can try to identify the way to solve the problem. Do you think that I should start a new discussion to get to the cause?

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Posted on Mar 11, 2010 11:16:53 PM PST
Bala Sankar says:
Million thanks to Rainbows, for your response. Just curious about the name, Million Rainbows; does it have any significant meaning. Coming back to our discussion, let me collect all the important points. Guilt; Submission to Power; Fear; Anger.

Just for discussion, instead of experimenting with mice, let us experiement with an imaginary human being.
Let us assume that a wonderful human being is born in this beautiful world. This human being has no defects; not physically handicapped; has all the vaccinations and no diseases like polio or any other; completely healthy; no accidents like road or fire; no earthquake or tsunami.
Let us take this human being for our experiments and apply power; deny reward; create guilt; Now this human being will have depression. By following this pattern, we can create depression on any human being.

Any other root causes?

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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2010 8:02:34 AM PST
Bala Sankar says:
When we go way back to the time, before civilization, there was no society; every human being lived as free as those birds; there was no government, business, religious, social organization or even family. When there was no organization, then no power. When there was no power, then no hierarchy among the human beings. All human beings are equal; Each individual enjoyed total and complete freedom. Naturally they lived their life without any depression.

So, the depression is a man made problem. It is not caused by any virus or bacteria; even natural disasters like earthquake and tsunami do not cause depression. Natural disasters may cause death and people survived may struggle to live; but no depression. So, depression is caused by the man-made system.

When a human being has no freedom, that human being have the following choices. Choice one: revolt and fight for freedom; choice two: just accept the fact and become a slave; choice three: mind is against becoming a slave and the body has no strength to revolt. That human being gets depression.

Human beings involved in revolution are leaders; Human beings accepted the fact and submitted are slaves; Human being, who are depressed, are the Real Human Beings. In fact, they behave as real and normal to the situation. They don't fake; they just reflect the situation.

People who have no teeth, may not have any tooth problem; Likewise, people who have no heart, may not have heart problem; Similarly, people, who have no mind, may not have problem in their mind.

So it is natural to have depression, for any real human being living in this world.

Coming back to Rainbow; rainbow is nature; that means you are connected to the nature; nature is a beautiful thing and human being needs to maintain their connection with nature; flowers, birds, trees, mountains, sky, rainbow, ocean - watch them; touch them; feel them.

Number system is a man-made system. You need numbers, for living in this world; to buy; to schedule a time; to celebrate birthdays. So you can not completely avoid numbers. But use the numbers when it is needed.

Million is a number; it spoils the beauty of the Rainbow. If some one comes up with Billion Rainbows, naturally you will get depressed. Or they may even come up with Million Clouds, that also will affect the human mind.

So, Human Beings are not in depression; the fact is, economy is in recession and depression; the world is in depression; the real human beings just reflect the real situation.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2010 5:15:26 PM PST
Lisa Lovett says:
I agree. MOST Psychiatrists just write scrips. I was lucky to finally after 50 years of anxiety and depression ( I'm 52), found a fabulous Psychiatrist who actually does therapy before he starts prescribing. I Would NEVER take a Psych scrip from a PCP. And as I said before.....if you're going to take meds ...one needs a phenomenal therapist, too.
There is a huge diffference between the blues ands clinical depression....or nervousness and Anxiety disorder. I have some wonderful friends who have nevere experienced what I've gone through my whole life. Theyt tell me ...They cannot understand because they have NEVER felt the way that I do. One did just recently call me and said that she finally "gets it". For the first time in hrer life she can';t get out of bed. She appologized for making light of what I've been going through. I guess some people have a tough time relating if they have never experienced.

Posted on Mar 25, 2010 5:38:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 25, 2010 5:39:50 PM PDT
Bala Sankar says:
Let me continue on this thread.

A few centuries ago, people used to carry sword and other weapons; they might have physically hurt other human beings. Until a few decades ago, people used to carry guns and other sophisticated weapons; they might have physically hurt other human beings. Nowadays, mostly people don't carry any weapons; people do not physically hurt any human beings any more. But, still many feel that they got hurt on many occasions.

People no longer hurt other human beings physically; but they do hurt the feelings of other human beings. The mind gets hurt; not the body, but the mind. At home, at work, even in on-line communities, people do hurt other human beings. Most of the time, people hurt others and also get hurt by others.

The officers in the military may have good knowledge about the cause and effect of hurting the feeling and hurting the mind of others. But others, people living with us; people working with us; people in the on-line communities, most of the time have no knowledge about the cause and effect of these kind of hurting. That is a serious problem.

At least when a person physically hurt another human being, that person knows about the damage that was made on the other human being. But when a person causes non-physical hurt, that person had no knowledge about the damages that was made by his words, or action.

Most of the time, at home, the parents may hurt the children's feelings; the parents might have no knowledge about the damages they might have caused on their children. Similarly, in relationship, the couple may love each other; but still, without any knowledge, they may hurt their loved ones with words, or in action.

So, be aware of the non-physical hurt in the mind and feelings of other human beings. Try to understand the cause and effect of your words and your action that may cause huge damage on others.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2010 4:43:03 AM PDT
Lisa Lovett says:
I had the first anxiety attack that I can really remember at age 4. My Mother tells me me I had SCREAMING nightmares and fearfulness starting at around 2. She said that I would never leave the house to visit friends. This was the 60s....you could hang out in your neighborhood all day....most of the Mom's were home. She said I wood run home every 10 minutes and check to make sure she was still there. I remember the few times I did try to go have a play date afterschool, calling my Mother to come get me after 5 minutes. I used to call what I felt at that age "That funny feeling". I would become so afraid that I would get sick to my stomach, my heart would race, I would shake and my muscles felt like jello. As soon as I got home I was fine. When I had my first panic attack as an adult, I realized what "That Funny Feeling " was. Generalized anxiety disorder. From the time I have my first memories, I was ALWAYS afraid of the dark. I saw people in my room. My Mother used to tell me that my imagination was "Running away with me". Most people with panic or anxiety disorder are afraid they are dying. A lot end up in the Emergency room. I, however, have always just wanted to go to sleep, not wake up, and not have to feel the tremendous PHYSICAL symptoms. I was told as an adult that I didn't have panic attacks. They usually last no more than 15 minutes. Mine lasted for hours...sometimes days. Nothing helped. When I got older the depression set in. My Mother read my poems in my journals one day and was horrified. She was afraid I was going to kill myself. I explained to her that the writing was what kept me sane. With a Father with Bi-Polar disorder( untreatable back then) and a Mensa IQ..( which I have also), made me positive there surely is a fine line between genius and insanity. Throw in a Mother who never wanted to be one and a Sociopath for a Stepmonster....a younger brother who just decided to block it all out with drugs, alcohol, and Jazz at 10 years old and stir. Granted the household I grew up in after 6 years old explains a lot of it....but not what started at 2 years old. I believe we come into this world with a certain temprement, which causes all of us to react to things in different ways. Drugs have never been the answer for me.
Back to the "God". Some say children come into this world knowing things we have forgotten. Until I had my own, I wasn't sure.....but both of my sons spoke of talking to "God" and missing their great Grandmother, Jeanne, who died when I was 6 minths old. We weren't a religious family. I was home with them. Their Grandparents and most relatives were Atheists or Agnostic and No one spoke of "God" or my dead Grandmother to my children. This fascinated me. Now I wonder if "My imagination was really running away with me" when I saw and spoke to the people in my room at night between 2-4 years old. People can make you THINK you are crazy. My Mother LIED to me as a teenager...telling me that I was imagining the unFatherly way my Stepmonster treated me. Or how he brutalized her and my Brother. Later, she told me that she knew what he was trying to do, but she "didn't want to rock the boat". That's crazy making. They say one Forgets the things they knew when they were born into this life because society, parents, etc. make them think it was all imagined by about 4 years old. I know for a fact there was no major trauma in my life until the stepmonster moved in when I was 6....and yet I experienced severe anxiety and depression at 2 or maybe earlier.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2010 4:56:36 AM PDT
Lisa Lovett says:
I have always believed that depression is "Anger turned inward." When you have been hurt, but know you are hopeless, helpless, and there is NO way out...the anger can turn to depression and often suicide. You begin to feel, "What's the point"? I used to be full of rage at the stepmonster and then later after a lot of therapy, even more so at my Mother for just standing by and not protecting us. She has no guilt and doesn't speak to either my brother or me. Plus, back in the day, if you called the police, they would just walk him around the block as he charmed them. Then as soon as they left..it was worse.
I used to look at my children when they were small and couldn't fathom how anyone could stand by and watch someone terrify and abuse their children. I'd sooner put myself in harm's way than watch someone hurt my kids. I'll never understand it.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2010 5:13:50 AM PDT
Lisa Lovett says:
We all come into this world with a certain temprement and personality. My kids were completely different in the womb. My Mother said the same about my brother and I. I apparently, aside from some anxiety and seeing things that weren't there....a a very happy, giggly, outgoing baby who liked to sing and dance and perform for people...I still am most of the time. My Mother nick named my Brother, "Sober-sides" because he never smiled....never seemed happy and is still one of the most pessimistic people, I know....plus now....he also has a substance abuse problem. We both reacted to our home lives in completely opposite ways. I believe it's because of being completely different human beings who dealt with everything in a different way. My kids are also exact opposites. My oldest is quiet, hasn't many friends and graduated from H.S. at 16 because he didn't ft in and was board. Plus he went through tremendous anxiety as a child, especially over school, even though he got straight As without trying and then suicidal depression as a teenager and young adult. With the help of a Psychiatrist sent from the Universe...he's still "different" but, doing very well. My youngest came into this world with a BANG. Always on the move. Happy as a clam. Positive he could do anything...tons of friends.....top of his class. Then tanked in the middle of his Junior year of college and dropped out. He works 2-3 jobs...has a wonder, bright girlfriend, tons of friends, but has become horribly depressed. His brother has gotten him to start therapy with him.....so we shall see. Life, the mind, each individual, spirit....it's all way too complicated to try to find "one size fits all" answers for ANYTHING". We all have our own paths.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 27, 2010 5:16:50 AM PDT
Lisa Lovett says:
Were you there in the "olden days"? How do you know no one suffered anxiety or depression? Maybe, they assumed these people were possessed by evil and just killed 'em off. ;-)

Posted on Mar 29, 2010 6:35:59 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
I have never been depressed. The again I am never overly happy. I prefer calm. I think that excessive emotional use brings about depression. If you do not try so hard to be happy you can not be depressed. Over use of your brains chemical production brings about all sorts of undesirable effects. Enjoy breathing and the world nature provided and stop trying to effect others or let others effect you.

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