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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 28, 2008 8:40:11 PM PST
Bryan Borich says:
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far" - Theodore Roosevelt

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 28, 2008 8:42:03 PM PST
Bryan Borich says:
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 28, 2008 8:57:03 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2008 11:55:39 AM PST
Lufer says:
On the Crusaders' massacre of Muslims and Jews in Jerusalem, an eyewitness wrote:

"Wonderful things were to be seen. Numbers of the Saracens were beheaded.... Others were shot with arrows, or forced to jump from the towers; others were tortured for several days, then burned with flames. In the streets were seen piles of heads and hands and feet. It was a just and marvelous judgment of God, that this place should be filled with the blood of unbelievers." - Raymond of Aguilers, French eyewitness of the First Crusade (1096-1099).

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2008 12:01:32 PM PST
Free_At_Last says:
Amanda, in what way is it morbid? It is the most truthful statement I have ever read on the subject quite frankly.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2008 12:20:14 PM PST
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Beloved says:
That statement speaks to the ignorance of Christians who believe that to destroy physical beings who are not Christian, then somehow we are destroying the "mistaken beliefs" these people held. In truth, we are only given instruction to look within ourselves to destroy mistaken beliefs, and leave others to walk the path they consider the path of truth. You cannot push enlightenment onto others through force. That would be like forcing the bud of a rose open before it is ready. It will blight the bloom in the end. Enlightenment comes from within and blooms in the human heart in its own and God's own time. Killing others in the name of Christianity is a complete and total contradiction to what Jesus came to us to say. It only underlines his words on the cross "...for they know not what they do."

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2008 2:44:18 PM PST
amen

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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 9:28:14 AM PST
Bryan Borich says:
"One man's fact is another man's fancy"- author not remembered

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"Beware of the "Black Swan" fallacy. Deductive logis is tautological; there is no way to get a new truth out of it, and it manipulates false statements as readily as true ones. If you fail to remember this, it can trip you---with perfect logic. The designers of the earliest computers called this the "Gigo Law", i.e., "Garbage In, Garbage Out.""



"Inductive logic is much more difficult---but can produce new truths."

Lazarus Long

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 9:32:18 AM PST
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Lufer says:
"Can a people that believes more fervently in the virgin birth than in evolution still be called an enlightened nation?... The secular states of modern Europe do not understand the fundamentalism of the American electorate.... In fact, we now resemble those nations less than we do our putative enemies. Where else do we find fundamentalist zeal, a rage at secularity, religious intolerance, fear of and hatred of modernity?... We find it in the Muslim world.... Americans wonder that the rest of the world thinks us so dangerous, so single-minded, so impervious to international appeals. They fear jihad, no matter whose zeal is being expressed." - Garry Wills, American Catholic scholar, historian and author.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 9:48:16 AM PST
Lufer says:
"Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies and gibberish. Over the centuries, these stories were embroidered, garbled, mutilated, and torn into small pieces that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material was badly translated into several languages successfully. The resultant text, creationist feel, is the best guide to this complex and technical subject [creation vs evolution]." - Tom Weller.

P.S. Check out his book, "Science Made Stupid," which is a hilarious parody of a high school science textbook. It offers a satirical account of the creationism vs. evolution debate and includes drawings, by Weller, of such fictional prehistoric animals as the duck-billed mastodon.

Luf.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 9:58:37 AM PST
Lufer says:
"Of all the great inventions and discoveries that go to make human life easier, happier, more rich and glorious, not one can be laid to the work of theology. These triumphs all belong to science.... If man had no knowledge except what he has got out of the bible he would not know enough to make a shoe." - Lemuel K. Washburn.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 10:03:21 AM PST
Lufer says:
"There is nothing more awe-inspiring than a miracle except the credulity that can take it at par." - Mark Twain

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 10:13:59 AM PST
P. E. Hay says:
I love the 'fundies say the darndest things' site (fstdt.com), expecially how they compare contemporary scorn or scoffing to the persections faced by Christians in the first few centuries c.e.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 10:36:26 AM PST
Iain says:
''Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.'' Exodus 22:18 [KJV]

Of course, neither the Hebrew nor the Greek actually says this, but who cares?

Words to live by, eh?

Unambiguous... straight to the point.

Iain

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 11:08:46 AM PST
Lufer says:
Wow!!

I just got through perusing a few of the entries at fstdt.com. Your comment deserves a thread all it's own. I think you should consider starting one.

It is utterly amazing the sort of things that some fundamentalists believe. Very scary stuff, indeed.

Luf.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 11:23:21 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2008 1:17:14 PM PST
zoltán says:
P. E. Hay says: "I love the 'fundies say the darndest things' site (fstdt.com)"

zoltan says: I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 2, 2008 9:19:11 AM PST
Lufer says:
Do check it out. You will bust a gut laughing at times, but it will also scare the bejesus out of you.

P.S. Think the Ape Aquatic might have some fun with this one?

Luf.
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