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The death of a dear agnostic father and a atheist mother


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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 5:55:00 PM PDT
Thank the Void that someone got it!! Thanks, MAH!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 8:26:04 PM PDT
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Spellman says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 7:31:36 AM PDT
Angelus1967 says:
LOL!! Love it RRR!! Classic, as always!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 8:28:29 AM PDT
Spellman: Yes, R3 has a penchant for flirting with insults when answers fail her. People do that when their worldview is under attack and answers are lacking.

Rachel: No, I rarely use insults except when the person I am addressing fail to use facts and lapse into mind-numbing "spiritual" flowery speech laden with threats of eternal damnation. I may also insult people when they try to assert their intellectual superiority over me. Ahem.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 8:29:18 AM PDT
Thank you, kind sir!

;-)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 8:34:21 AM PDT
And here we have the sight of Spellman, arrogant Christian apologist extraordinaire, finding himself unable to refute my post, lapses into the kind of personal attack he decries in others. That is unfortunate. Unsurprising, but unfortunate.

Spellman: Exegesis, like any other discipline, requires a modicum of effort.

Of course it does. Convincing yourself that words don't mean what they say is very laborious and requires such mental activity as leaps of faith, suspensions of disbelief, and the turning off of one's brain.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 11:24:19 AM PDT
MaryAnn H. says:
"People do that when their worldview is under attack and answers are lacking."

Yes, you appear quite comfortable so doing.

If your bias were not so ingrained, you would take R3's comments for what they are. Legitimate questions regarding the inconsistencies in your dogma. Her knowledge of scripture is quite extensive and you should not dismiss her so lightly.

"Christ divesting himself of divine attributes to experience human suffering." If such had actually occurred (highly unlikely) the experience of human suffering would have been quite temporary and the end result already known. Not much of a sacrifice.

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Posted on Jun 9, 2012 6:46:21 AM PDT
dischism says:
Spellman

< Why insult anyone? I merely point out the epistemic fallacies that permeate these threads through the supposed use of dead and discarded philosophic approaches to problem solving, such as empiricism.>

Can you explain how empiricism has been discarded from the philosophy of science?

Posted on Jun 9, 2012 7:01:01 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 10:47:03 AM PDT
Mr. Spellman, words have meanings. The words speak for themselves. I didn't refute myself, nor did you refute me. A bald statement saying, "Your interpretations are plainly wrong" is, shall we say, unconvincing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 10:49:52 AM PDT
Spellman: Why insult anyone? I merely point out the epistemic fallacies that permeate these threads through the supposed use of dead and discarded philosophic approaches to problem solving, such as empiricism.

I have often wondered why believers such as David Marshall, Lee Freeman, and you insult those who disagree with them. It strikes me as abject arrogance. When you condescend to people and treat them as though they are morons for not sharing your religious beliefs, you shouldn't expect flowers in return.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 10:56:06 AM PDT
Spellman: Because empiricism has never been a functional epistemic mechanism.

Rachel: There are more than a few scientists who would dispute that statement. The reason you deride empiricism is because it represents the antithesis of Biblical exegesis. In such Biblical interpretation, the beginning point is the assumption that the Bible is accurate and that everything is right, therefore the text must be "interpreted." No science using empirical methods would allow a researcher to start from a conclusion and work backwards.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 10:59:58 AM PDT
Spellman: To my view, her comments on the second coming reflect too much time spent with writers like Richard Dawkins, whose biblical exegesis is next to zero.

Rachel: How charming. An ad hominem fallacy and a red herring, all at once. My comments on the second coming reflect too many wasted hours reading the Bible and trying to make sense of it. I woke up when I finally realized that no sense can be made of nonsense.

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 10:34:18 AM PDT
Brian Curtis says:
Empiricism may indeed have been discarded by philosophers... which is why philosophers have been discarded by reality.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 11:07:04 AM PDT
AxeGrrl says:
Brian Curtis wrote: "Empiricism may indeed have been discarded by philosophers... which is why philosophers have been discarded by reality."
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You really should re-post this remark in the "What is an agnostic? Am I an agnostic?" thread.......there seem to be a few people there who don't seem particularly concerned with how accurately an argument relates to reality.

(the last couple of pages of that thread have been on this very subject)

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 7:05:59 PM PDT
Just finished reading "The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer by Siddhartha Mukherjee. The fact that this was the last book that my mother selected to read (and completed) before she died of metastatic ovarian cancer reveals much about her inner strength and constant desire to discover what can be known about our existence. She clearly understood that, at age 92, she would be incapable of fighting any battle against her disease, but she wanted to know as much as possible about the failures, challenges and triumphs that others had encountered. Mom was a skeptic, an avid learner, critical thinker and a highly valued teacher.
BTW - I recommend this book. It's a beautifully written, but sobering narrative about uncontrollable cell growth, and the harsh consequences that so many of us must face in our future.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 7:38:41 PM PDT
Jesus4us says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 7:55:47 PM PDT
Angelus1967 says:
Hogwash and poppycock. All of that garbage is so trite and useless in real life.

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