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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2012 7:53:29 PM PST
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Posted on Feb 9, 2012 10:57:21 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 1:03:21 AM PST
Vicki - "Christianity isn't about making bad people good- its about bringing spiritually dead people to life. "

Which requires seeing people who don't share your faith as "spiritually dead." That puts the rest of us in the odd position of saying "no, I'm fine, not dead at all...." only to be told over and over "no, you'll be stone dead in a moment..you need Christ!"

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:21:32 AM PST
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Posted on Feb 10, 2012 5:30:35 AM PST
MycroftH says:
I must say that I have a few difficulties to answer the OP.
First: What is it that is meant by "life"? Most posters seem to assume that it is a somehow anthropocentric question, a la "what is the purpose of human life"? But that's not what the OP asks for.
Second: Does all life in all the universe have a single purpose? Do, for example only, viruses and well-educated humans share the same purpose?
Third: If one posits a single purpose for all forms of life, then the scientifically inclined will end up with a rather small common denominator, while the (usually very anthropocentric) spiritually/religiously inclined will infallibly will point to a supernatural invisible tyrant who told them to
"fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
and whose rules are absolute.
Looks a bit like loaded dice.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:55:59 AM PST
Vicki says:
Dear Lanny,

I believe God is "He", but in talking with those who don't believe and in a general sense, I try to use something close to their terminology.

I have to admit, though, that I couldn't bring myself to use the pronoun "she" for God, as the poster who I quoted did.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 6:15:53 AM PST
Vicki says:
Dear Mark,

You said :"Which requires seeing people who don't share your faith as "spiritually dead."

No, it requires faith in what the Bible says about our separation from God. One of the basic tenets of Christianity is that we are dead in our sins and this separates us from Him.

Many atheists and agnostics make the mistake of thinking that Christianity is, at its heart, an ethical system. Then they dismiss it by saying that they are fine with developing their own moral code without reference to any god or gods.

I agree that people develop their own morality. But Jesus came to reconcile us with God through his atonement for our sins- to bridge that separation between us and the Father and bring us to life spiritually which transforms us inside and out.

I see what you are saying (I think) that it is somehow inaccurate or unfair to view anyone as spiritually dead when they are walking around and not feeling any ill effects. But if a person denies that anything supernatural exists, are they going to be conscious of their separation from God?

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 6:27:04 AM PST
>> But Jesus came to reconcile us with God through his atonement for our sins- to bridge that separation between us and the Father and bring us to life spiritually which transforms us inside and out.<<

So, what went wrong?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 7:06:44 AM PST
Vicki says:
Dear Buck,

You asked :"So, what went wrong?"

Are you referring to people who do not accept reconciliation with God?

There are a lot of things that prevent people from faith-
My husband (an atheist) says that he doesn't consider himself a sinner.
He also says that men need material proof of God's existence.
My son (an agnostic) says he doesn't want to believe because the whole idea of Hell is offensive to him.

We are free to reject God's offer of reconciliation, so it is not surprising that the world has not been transformed. Not everyone wants what God wants for us- fellowship with Him.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 7:12:11 AM PST
Ariex says:
Stan Furman says: "But is "a plant or anything else here" free to will what it wants to do? ;)"

Ariex: Free will is an illusion. We are free to do as we want, but our wants are themselves determined by elements beyond our control.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 8:51:34 AM PST
I am not sure I believe in free will also.

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 9:04:10 AM PST
>>Dear Buck,

You asked :"So, what went wrong?"

Are you referring to people who do not accept reconciliation with God?<<

Err.....no.

I'm talking about the bridge.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 10:59:17 AM PST
HeyLanny says:
Vicki says:
Dear Buck,
You asked :"So, what went wrong?"

Are you referring to people who do not accept reconciliation with God?

There are a lot of things that prevent people from faith-
My husband (an atheist) says that he doesn't consider himself a sinner.
He also says that men need material proof of God's existence.
My son (an agnostic) says he doesn't want to believe because the whole idea of Hell is offensive to him.

We are free to reject God's offer of reconciliation, so it is not surprising that the world has not been transformed. Not everyone wants what God wants for us- fellowship with Him.
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This was good and appreciated in truth and explains why the Father is waiting until the harvest to show himself to the world a second time.

We are now in mid summer. Look to Israel and Middle east and economy.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:00:36 AM PST
HeyLanny says:
Feb 10, 2012 6:27:04 AM PST Buck Buckaw says:
>> But Jesus came to reconcile us with God through his atonement for our sins- to bridge that separation between us and the Father and bring us to life spiritually which transforms us inside and out.<<
So, what went wrong?
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Arrogance and pride before humbleness and repentance.

Wrong order.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:05:13 AM PST
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HeyLanny says:
Vicki says:
Dear Mark,
You said :"Which requires seeing people who don't share your faith as "spiritually dead."

No, it requires faith in what the Bible says about our separation from God. One of the basic tenets of Christianity is that we are dead in our sins and this separates us from Him.

Many atheists and agnostics make the mistake of thinking that Christianity is, at its heart, an ethical system. Then they dismiss it by saying that they are fine with developing their own moral code without reference to any god or gods.

I agree that people develop their own morality. But Jesus came to reconcile us with God through his atonement for our sins- to bridge that separation between us and the Father and bring us to life spiritually which transforms us inside and out.

I see what you are saying (I...
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Another great post.

What is the difference in these statements?

I love you with all my heart
I want to spend the rest of my life with you
You are the most important thing in my life
I love you
Please forgive me I didn't mean to hurt you
I would give my life for you
My mind is constantly upon you

What is the difference. None! When the receiver knows the heart of the giver.

How you interpret the scriptures.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:05:16 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 10, 2012 11:16:35 AM PST
You're free to believe what ever you want.

"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice."

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:14:32 AM PST
HeyLanny says:
Vicki says:
Dear Lanny,
I believe God is "He", but in talking with those who don't believe and in a general sense, I try to use something close to their terminology.

I have to admit, though, that I couldn't bring myself to use the pronoun "she" for God, as the poster who I quoted did.
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I hadn't been in here much lately Vicky and never intended to offend you as you posts show your love and respect for the only person who loved us enough to set the example and pay the price for our freedom from the worlds slavery.

I have been following your posts and I am catching up on your sincerity and attempts to reach a few.

God Richly Bless
Lanny and Susan loving Christ for 40 years and getting better each day.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:19:46 AM PST
HeyLanny says:
MycroftH says:
I must say that I have a few difficulties to answer the OP.
First: What is it that is meant by "life"? Most posters seem to assume that it is a somehow anthropocentric question, a la "what is the purpose of human life"? But that's not what the OP asks for.
Second: Does all life in all the universe have a single purpose? Do, for example only, viruses and well-educated humans share the same purpose?
Third: If one posits a single purpose for all forms of life, then the scientifically inclined will end up with a rather small common denominator, while the (usually very anthropocentric) spiritually/religiously inclined will infallibly will point to a supernatural invisible tyrant who told them to
"fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over...
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Don't forget.

I have come to give you LIFE and LIFE more ABUNDANTLY.

From your innermost being shall flow rivers of living water. Sweeter each day.

Born once, Die twice
Born Twice, Die ONCE

For 40 years it just gets better and the government, science, intellectuals, God Haters never gave any of it to us.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:33:45 AM PST
HeyLanny says:
Mark Hornberger says:
Vicki - "Christianity isn't about making bad people good- its about bringing spiritually dead people to life. "
Which requires seeing people who don't share your faith as "spiritually dead." That puts the rest of us in the odd position of saying "no, I'm fine, not dead at all...." only to be told over and over "no, you'll be stone dead in a moment..you need Christ!"
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Why do you think you crucify Christ each day of your life because he spoke the same words.

Let the dead bury their own dead.

He told those who had ears. "I have come that you might have life and life more abundantly." Any one who knows him knows he did not lie and after 40 years my wife and I just see the increase in joy.

Born one, Die TWICE
Born TWICE, Die ONCE

When the world offers an equivalent maybe we will listen.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:56:35 AM PST
sfon says:
sfon said: "We can all come to natural conclusions... conclusions which are suggested and supported by our natural experience."

Vicki says: "I agree, except that I would add that the spiritual aspects shouldn't be excluded from experience."

My spiritual experiences are natural, they do not include deities. Our spirituality is different, so the meaning we find will be different.

sfon said: "(she) made reality ambiguous enough for many people to find many different meanings and purposes... as not just a singular purpose or meaning is mandated by our reality."

Vicki says: "...the deity has a singular purpose in general for humanity which it wishes us to seek, as well as a purpose for each individual should they be open to it."

But this is a matter of belief, not a mandate suggested or supported by our natural reality... and then we are right back at "to each their own belief..."

...as always...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 12:12:50 PM PST
HeyLanny says:
Feb 9, 2012 6:10:12 PM PST Ralph Gaily Jr. says:
HeyLanny.... you made my day brother..... God bless you both. ...,r
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Since we have the same Father, Yes we are brothers because our conversation is not of this world, but of the Father and his Son.

Therefore denomination and church are only tools for the purpose of accomplishing in unity the gospel message of Jesus Christ which is not our message, but his.

For this reason we can both enter into combat, back to back, against the principalities, powers, rulers of darkness and wickedness in high places confident that in the end we will WIN.

God Bless Brother and hope you and family are finding more Joy every day in Christ than the day before. ;)

Lanny and Susan in Christ

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 12:27:36 PM PST
HeyLanny says:
Ralph Gaily Jr. says:
Jack.... On His last night here, He stated," I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Me". Either Jesus was crazy, a liar, or truly the Son of God. He changed my life 42 years ago when I simply believed on Him. Ralph Gaily, retired firefighter/L.A. policeman, christian
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You have a couple years on my wife and I in Christ brother. I had returned from Vietnam and Americas attitude toward us was slightly negative back in 1971.

So drugs, alcohol, illegal sex, vulgarity, violence and filth like the world thinks is so wonderful brought me to my knees when my wife and I were heading for a divorce in the first 3 months of our marriage.

The addition of a house fire and no insurance and the assistance of a little Church of people we did not even know began to cause us both to reevaluate our lives.

Since I have seen the other vulgar side of men I realized that Jesus Christ spoke words that were of compassion, mercy, kindness, love and forgiveness which are all spiritual components that are not materialist objects to be placed under a microscope.

I am still a rebel and a soldier, probably like you, but now my wife and family have been on the winning team for 40 years and it just gets better.

God Bless to those who will receive it and to those who don't-No Problem.

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 12:38:03 PM PST
What is the purpose of life?........The Arts and Horror of course!
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