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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2011 6:29:59 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 29, 2011 7:18:03 AM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Poetic, yes.
(great lyrics, I totally relate)

"If I cried out loud
over sorrows I've Known
And the secrets I've heard
It would ease my mind
Someone sharing the load
But I won't breathe a word

We're two of a kind
Silence and I
We need a chance to talk things over
Two of a kind
Silence and I
We'll find a way to work it out

While the children laughed
I was always afraid
of the Smile of the clown
So I close my eyes
Till I can't see the light
And I hide from the sound

We're two of a kind
Silence and I
We need a chance to talk things over
Two of a kind
Silence and I
We'll find a way to work it out

I can hear the cry
Of the leaf on a tree
As it Falls to the ground
I can hear the call
of an Echoing voice
And there's no one around

We're two of a kind
Silence and I
We need a chance to talk things over
Two of a kind
Silence and I
We'll find a way to work it out"

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 2:58:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 10, 2011 2:59:17 AM PDT
J. Westwind said:
>>Poetic, yes.
>>(great lyrics, I totally relate)

J.H.--It's funny really, looking back on this song. I remember about 12 years old, my cousin 13 years, and our parents took us to see Ringling Brothers, and Barnum & Baily circus at the Colosseum (or was it the Greek forum) down in Los Angeles. That would have been back in the 70's, during the Jimmy Carter regime/crisis on crisis.

The animals really were amazing. It was the first time I'd ever seen live Chimpanzees, Elephants and Tigers. I was more than just a little apprehensive of their parade so close to the grandstands. But when I got home it was the clowns that gave me night mares, trying to chase me under those bleachers and grab me.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 11:07:57 AM PDT
Cuvtixo says:
Hrumph! <coughing and clearing throat> back on the discussion topic, I would like to see separate options in addition to "adds to the discussion," because presently there is no other way to indicate that one agrees or disagrees with a post. There are often posts that I strongly disagree with, but also add to the discussion, while there are other posts I agree with, but don't think add to the discussion. Surely, it can't be too complicated to implement such a system on the forums.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 11:34:19 PM PDT
Fatman says:
"Well said but I do not agree with you".
How's that instead of pressing a button?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2011 1:20:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 11, 2011 2:24:07 AM PDT
Cuvtixo>>"There are often posts that I strongly disagree with, but also add to the discussion, while there are other posts I agree with, but don't think add to the discussion."

J.H.--Yeah, doesn't it really bite when the remote control dies on the TV, and you actually have to get out of the chair. }:^)

OK, that was lame sarcasm on my part. Imagine rather a server computer that maintains customer profiles for each Amazon customer. Imagine that somewhere in this profile (for marketing purposes), the computer tallies each time you click a voting button for a discussion. Further imagine how Amazon tags products topically, and associates discussion subjects with product tags.

Although some folks around here have posited that a sheer volume of 'no' votes against a particular post has something to do with posters being banned, (and who can say whether or not the computer monitors how many of a customer's posts are flagged with a superabundance of 'no' votes), the only effect we affirmatively observe is the post becomes 'hidden'.

How would it statistically profit Momazon for them to include buttons for 'agree-but-not-helpful' & 'disagree-but-helpful'?

In other words, how would your suggestion help the Artificial Intelligence of their search engine to evolve & grow?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2011 9:45:30 AM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Jonathan,
As far as the lyrics go -- I relate more to the "silence" than the fear of clowns,
but it makes sense to me that kids should be concerned about people wearing disguises -- you just never know...

My younger sister was terrified of clowns for years after seeing a movie in which a woman driving a car sees a menacing, grinning, clown (in the back seat) reflected in her rear view mirror.

(to other posters -- apologies for straying so far off topic)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2011 7:54:41 PM PDT
Mens Sana says:
No objections from me. And anyone could just scroll past. It is not as if someone were quoting Bible passages, afraid that it might go out of print.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2011 10:20:24 PM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Thanks, Mens Sana :-)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 13, 2011 6:32:46 PM PDT
J. Westwind said:

>>As far as the lyrics go -- I relate more to the "silence" than the fear of clowns,

J.H.--Me too. Just saying, (Jonathan applies his best passive aggressive tone)

--if it were posted in the 'Hidden Meanings of Songs' thread, there's probably an acute observation about the artist in that phrase.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 14, 2011 12:33:18 AM PDT
J. Westwind says:
J.H. "--if it were posted in the 'Hidden Meanings of Songs' thread, there's probably an acute observation about the artist in that phrase."

J.W. Okay, I posted it there.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 10:50:46 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 10, 2011 7:18:52 AM PDT
J. Westwind: < How about an option where you can type in a name, yours or someone else's, and it will show the threads where your/their last 10 or 20 (or more) comments were posted? >

I used to think this would be a pretty good idea -- after all if we can search all the forums for the word "rutabaga", why not for "avoraciousreader" or "Westwind"? As the author of the post, that is, since if someone mentions your name in the text of the post, it will show up. At the time, I think I was being frustrated by someone's odd post-and-delete habits and wanted to see if they did it elsewhere.

On further reflection, I decided it was a bad idea, lending itself too readily to stalkerish behavior, or that kind of usenet gotcha'ism, "Ha! 5 years ago in a post on xxx you said..." Though your idea of a handful of recent posts makes this less of a problem, maybe.

Being able to find our OWN posts, though, would be quite useful and I see no problems with it.

I'd also see it as less problematical to allow me to search for posts by a particular user WITHIN the current discussion. When you have a few hundred, or thousand, posts can be hard to make sure you've got the complete picture of their line of argument.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 10, 2011 7:46:54 PM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Good points.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 11, 2011 6:13:22 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 11, 2011 6:15:56 AM PDT
Thanks, JW. I'm not saying it's a totally bad idea, just needs a bit of fine tuning to avoid abuse.
Of course nobody from Amazon will actually read this :-).

ETA: Whoa, this is weird. That region immediately below the "add your own message..." box where they usually list the active discussions in the current forum (which would be "Amazon Discussions Feedback Forum", no?) has instead "Recent discussions in the RELIGION forum". Anybody else getting something like that?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 12, 2011 10:54:52 PM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Mine is the same -- maybe it's been that way ever since Amazon first added the Feedback thread at the top of this Religion Forum?
I really don't know if it changed or not.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 13, 2011 6:08:32 AM PDT
Actually, I am pretty sure that this has changed recently.
I only discovered this whole forum a few day ago, and somehow after following that "announcement" from the Religion Forum, I did see the whole list of individual discussions in what must have been the 'usual' place. I even commented on it somewhere, pointing out it was surprising how few discussions had any activity within the past week.

(I just tested an idea -- maybe the list of discussions in the Feedback Forum shows up only if you're looking at the Announcement discussion? Nope, still get the Religion list.)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 13, 2011 3:52:51 PM PDT
J. Westwind says:
Hummmmmm? Well, your guess is as good as mine.

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 6:34:15 AM PDT
The Amazon Discussions Feedback Forum seems to be the headline thread in all of the forum subjects. And the posts in the thread with this title are different, from posters who frequent all of the other subject/tagged discussion threads.

In essence there seems to be no "Feedback Forum" per se.

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 2:51:53 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 15, 2011 2:53:13 PM PDT
dischism says:
Jonathon, here's the URL for the feedback forum. Not many happy campers there, because Amazon has taken no notice of anything that's been posted so far.

https://www.amazon.com/forum/amazon%20discussions%20feedback

Edit cos it helps to add the URL

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 17, 2011 9:31:40 AM PDT
anne says:
dischism: Amazon has taken no notice of anything that's been posted so far.

anne: Really? Are you sure?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 17, 2011 9:43:17 AM PDT
dischism says:
Anne

Check out what people have listed as what they would like. Can you find a single instance of any having been implemented?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 17, 2011 9:47:10 AM PDT
anne says:
I know some changes have been made and that Amazon welcomes comments via phone and e-mail. Are there any features that bother you enough to move you to communicate with them directly, that is, via phone or e-mail?

I, myself, would like to see more posters who are intelligent--like you--posting. But that's nothing that Amazon can do anything about.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 17, 2011 10:03:55 AM PDT
dischism says:
Anne

Oooh, flattery. :)

I think you'll find that the changes that have been made accompanied the inception of the feedback forum, rather than having been a result of feedback. *shrugs*

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 18, 2011 5:47:12 AM PDT
anne says:
<you'll find that the changes that have been made accompanied the inception of the feedback forum, rather than having been a result of feedback.>

Darn, well that's too bad.

Posted on Oct 18, 2011 7:21:27 AM PDT
Amazon forum masters: it would be very helpful to have the "page bar" indicating numbers, previous & next at both the top and bottom of the page. Scrolling to the bottom all the time is giving me carpal tunnel syndrome :)
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