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America's first Evangelical President harmed Christianity more than any other


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Initial post: Nov 28, 2012 5:59:26 PM PST
Ehkzu says:
George Bush II was America's first Evangelical president. Yet as a direct result of his irrational invation of Iraq and incompetent occupation thereafter, Iraq's nearly million-strong Christians (many from families dating back over a millenium) have mostly been murdered or expelled by Islamist militias.

Within a few years there will be no Christians in Iraq.

Bush II never intended this of course. Just as the drunk driver never intended to T-bone the school bus full of children. But he is responsible for it.

Ironic that our most fervent Christian president ever did so much to damage the cause of Christianity during his preidency.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:05:53 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 28, 2012 7:06:07 PM PST
I thought President Carter was the first evangelical Christian president.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:11:16 PM PST
You're right; it was Carter, not Bush.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:16:21 PM PST
Bubba says:
How do you define "Evangelical president"? There were presidents who were from evangelical denominations prior to Bush II, some of them were:

Warren Harding, Harry Truman, and Bill Clinton were Baptists

James Garfield, Lyndon Johnson, and Ronald Reagan were members of The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

Ulysses Grant and William McKinley were Methodists, and I think that the Methodists were evangelical at the time

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 7:38:11 PM PST
Some Methodists were/are Evangelical. My now deceased [1963] first mother-in-law was what she called a "high" Methodist and stayed away from evangelical churches.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 9:14:17 PM PST
i dont think that is absolutely correct

baby bush was the most evil man to ever live
he was the only person more clueless than yobamamama about what is good for the usa and what is stupid that would blowback in his face to hurt us all

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 9:14:39 PM PST
yes
if not someone earlier from the olden days

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:05:01 PM PST
Astrocat says:
Yes, it was Carter, definitely.

Posted on Nov 29, 2012 1:03:54 AM PST
Joe Anthony says:
re: "America's first Evangelical President..."

I say:

I think we need to define "evangelical". Jimmy Carter was the first president to identify himself as a born again Christian and I think that most would agree that Carter's faith was and remains sincere.

Other presidents may have identified themselves as belonging to one denomination or another but their personalities may have demonstrated not taking their church affiliation.

Even so, does "evangelical" mean "fundamentalist", "devout", "born again" or "Right-Wing"?

The EVANGELICAL Lutheran Church of America allows for openly gay and lesbian clergy.

The word means different things to different people.

In the strictest sense to "evangelize" means to "spread the word" ; in this sense EVERY Christian from "A" to "Z" is an evangelical as it is central in Christianity to share the "good news" or the "Gospel of Jesus Christ" in one way or another.

Therefore, in the strictest sense, every denomination; from the Congregationalists with the rainbow flags in front of the church, to the Christian Right-wingers who oppose same-sex marriage; to all shades in between are "evangelicals".

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 3:25:06 AM PST
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Bubba says:
Jimmy Carter used his powers for good, not evil -- and that REALLY pissed off Jerry Falwell. Jimmy Carter left the Southern Baptists because they are evil.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 5:01:35 AM PST
Brian Curtis says:
Exactly. Carter stands as a reminder that not all born-again Christians are inherently evil.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 5:30:31 AM PST
Irish Lace says:
"George Bush II was America's first Evangelical president. "

Jimmy Carter. You're 0 for 1.

Posted on Nov 29, 2012 7:24:41 AM PST
tokolosi says:
Did any other prez so blatantly rely on his "faith" to inform his decisions to the detriment of the country as did GW?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 10:48:45 AM PST
I was so busy when Carter was president that I did not really appreciate him. I really began to appreciate him when Reagan came along. Carter was and is a man of huge principle.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 11:19:16 AM PST
Astrocat says:
Kathleen, he really came into his own after the presidency. His patronage of and work with Habitat for Humanity, his ambassadorial work around the world, and so on. He is a truly good man.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 11:20:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 29, 2012 11:21:07 AM PST
Ataraxia says:
Don't forget how silly and ridiculous he made us look in the international community. This is what the French saw of him when he was trying to convince them to join him in Iraq. Check it out. It would be hilarious if it wasn't our country that was being laughed at.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2012 12:30:49 PM PST
Brian Curtis says:
A peacemaker is always more admirable than a "war president."
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