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Posted on Sep 26, 2013 6:05:55 AM PDT
David Brown says:
It's has happened the Official R&B Hall of Fame has held its first Induction ceremony on Aug17th in Cleveland Ohio close to 20 inductees where honored. Follow the website for the 2014 induction planned for June. Rbhalloffame.com anf the R&B on Facebook

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 1:32:02 PM PDT
I know Billy Wilson very well who is head of the Motown Allumni Association.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 11:51:57 AM PDT
Wolfhound says:
Okey Mr.Robinson, I'll get what info I can together and send it to your email. Have you contacted the Motown Illumni Association?' If not I think you should visit the website and join. You can then start a thread and share information about the R&B Hall of Fame. Stax Records has a websight also and I'm sure they'd be interested in this project.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 9:29:23 AM PDT
Shining Star says:
Hey Will,

Good suggestion and nice photos.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 9:28:42 AM PDT
Shining Star says:
Hi Lamont,

Thanks for all the updates and I agree with 'Will' and 'Wolf' that Cleveland would be the overall best choice for the museum for all reasons mentioned.

Posted on Sep 23, 2012 2:40:16 PM PDT
All R&B fans go to the new Facebook page for the The Official R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum. We are trying to get 100,000 hits. It is called R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 23, 2012 2:37:36 PM PDT
Hi Wolfhound:

Yes things are going well for the R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum. We are planning a press conf very soon. I woulds love to bring the mobile exhibit to D.C. in Feb. Here is my email address Rmagicians@aol.com send me the info that you want the mobile exhibit what date and time and it is a done deal. I can see show were in the museum a part of the R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum there. Email me your email as well and phone number.
Thanks
LaMont Robinson Founder
The Official R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum
www.rbhalloffame.com

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 23, 2012 2:04:11 PM PDT
Wolfhound says:
Hi Mr. Robinson, it's good to hear the R&B Hall of Fame is moving forward. You and the other Amazon members here are probably familiar with the National Museum of African American History and Culture ( NMAAHC) launched in 2008 and sponsered by the Smithsonian Institute. I think that a mobile section of the R&B Hall of Fame should make an apperance in Washington DC, the location of NMAAHC. On February of 2012 NMAAHC officially broke ground, marking the beginning of the construction of the museum.

Director Lonnie Bunch, welcomes contributions to the project, including and especially collectable memorabilia passed down through your family line(s). I think a section of the NMAAHC should be dedicated to the music African Americans have contributed to the narrative of the history of the United States, which is where the R&B Hall of Fame and your staff Mr. Robinson can play a major role in making this happen. Perhaps a permanent smaller' branch of the R&B Hall of Fame can be a fixture at the museum. I'm partial to Chicago being the permanent home of the R&B Hall of Fame, mainly because it's my home town, but I have to agree with 'Will', Cleveland would be the logical choice for location and economics because the R&RHOF is there and established, insuring more visitors.

The NMAAHC website is AfricanAmerican.si.edu

Posted on Sep 22, 2012 8:58:02 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 23, 2012 2:07:40 PM PDT
willgee says:
Hey, Lamont...a suggestion: Since JAMES BROWN and THE FAMOUS FLAMES are included in the induction, You should change the solo picture of James Brown to a picture of ALL of them... Brown, Bobby Byrd, Bobby Bennett, and "Baby Lloyd" Stallworth. Here are some choices:

1) http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/119/ddd4a72e279a60d6ca04751f69b8c585/l.jpg

2) http://www.bsnpubs.com/king/flames.jpg

3) http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Brown-T-shirt-James-Brown-and-the-Famous-Flames-Shirt-/120966892028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=420088744306&hash=item1c2a3049fc

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 22, 2012 8:44:02 PM PDT
willgee says:
Definitely Cleveland. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is there....and The R&B Music Hall of Fame can pick up some of the visitor traffic from there to insure it's success.

Posted on Sep 22, 2012 8:17:00 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 22, 2012 8:20:52 PM PDT
Now all the R&B music lovers tell me were should we build the R&B Hall in Cleveland, Ohio or the Motor City of Detroit. Me and my staff would love your feeback. Here is the promo for the Detroit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwATml_VSfk&feature=youtu.be

Posted on Sep 22, 2012 8:12:09 PM PDT
HERE IS THE PROMO FOR THE R&B MUSIC HALL OF FAME MUSEUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsZEG_eSt7E&feature=youtu.be

Posted on Sep 22, 2012 8:09:21 PM PDT
To everyone here is the right website address www.rbhalloffame.com

Posted on Sep 22, 2012 7:59:38 PM PDT
willgee says:
This just in from the "Soul Patrol" website:

LaMont Robinson's R&B MUSIC HALL OF FAME MUSEUM is getting closer to being a reality:

ROBINSON GLOBAL SPORTS & ENTERTAINMENT GROUP LLC,
PLANS TO BUILD TO THE OFFICIAL R&B MUSIC HALL OF FAME MUSEUM

Cleveland, Ohio -- Robinson Global Sports & Entertainment Group LLC, today has announced it plans to develop the Official R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum that will be a state-of-the-art, highly interactive, virtual reality experience for individuals of all ages and cultures. It will memorialize rhythm artists, promoters and others that have contributed to this music genre. Its educational and preservation values alone are needed and have been welcomed and endorsed by many U.S. cities: Cleveland, Ohio Mayor Frank G. Jackson; East Cleveland, Ohio Mayor Gary Norton; Detroit, Michigan's Detroit Entertainment Commission and the Motown Alumni Association; Atlanta, Georgia's Film/Music & Digital Entertainment Office, as well as a Memphis, Tennessee Organization.

This museum is long overdue. There have been many attempts to establish a Rhythm & Rlues Hall of Fame of this magnitude, but none have come to fruition. The Official R&B Music Hall of Fame Museum (OR&BMHFM) will exemplify to the world the essence of rhythm & blues music and its components. The OR&BMHFM's Inaugural Induction Ceremony will be held on Sunday, May 5, 2013 in Cleveland, Ohio at Cleveland's Music Hall/Public Auditorium, the same venue used for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremonies.

The class of the 2013 induction includes James Brown, The Temptations, The Hesitations, Otis Redding, The O'Jays, Dick Clark, Gerald Levert, Aretha Franklin, Alan Freed, and the Dramatics, to name a few of the 20 inductees. The Reverend Al Sharpton will receive the Ron Banks Humanitarian Award for his life-long support to many rhythm & blues and gospel artists.

Support for the museum has been received from many music artists and affiliates including the Impressions, the Chi-Lites, the family of James Brown and the families of many other deceased rhythm & blues artists. Fundraisers for the museum will include the Induction Ceremonies and a brick campaign drive to sell 10,000 bricks on which rhythm & blues artists' names will appear.

The OR&BMHFM will also memorialize and preserve the legacy and contributions of Gospel, Hip Hop music, as well as the contributions of preachers, through its Gospel Music & Preachers Hall of Fame Museum and the Hip Hop Museum of America. The African-American Music Research Center will also be an integral component of the OR&BMHFM.

Groundbreaking is being planned for the summer of 2013. A mobile exhibit currently tours the country. More information regarding the OR&BMHFM can be found by going to www.rbhall.com.

http://www.rbhall.com

Posted on Jul 28, 2012 12:36:06 PM PDT
willgee says:
1)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Brown-T-shirt-James-Brown-and-Famous-Flames-Shirt-/120956652079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item61cf17cf53#ht_530wt_648

2)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Brown-T-shirt-James-Brown-and-Famous-Flames-Shirt-/120956652079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item61cf17cf53#ht_530wt_648

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 21, 2012 5:00:58 PM PDT
Wolfhound says:
'It grabbed the attention of the listener and held them captive', Right on M.Jones, this puts into clarity a connection with soul music that is difficult to put into words.

Posted on Jul 19, 2012 7:36:16 AM PDT
Shining Star says:
"I've always suggested reading the books written, co-written and ghost written about the artists and musicians. Some are not accurate, but the read will connect you with the period and what came out of those studios."

Wolfhound,

You hit the nail on the head with this statement and this, as I see it, is a big part of the problem. Not enough people take the time to do just what you stated, pick up a book or pull up an article and read. Going all the way back to the great Scott Joplin in the late 1800's on into the early 1900's, African American music has been embedded in the fabric of the music in this country whether one wanted to admit it or not. There have been many genre & sub-genre titles given to it over the years, Blues, Gospel, Jazz, R&B, Rock, Pop, Funk, Funk-Rock, Neo Soul, etc., but I love the term "Soul" as that's what makes it great. It comes from the Heart & "Soul" and is pregnant with feeling, emotion and power which is precisely why it couldn't be ignored because it grabbed the attention of the listener and held them captive.

Posted on Jul 18, 2012 3:15:42 PM PDT
Wolfhound says:
Yeah I agree with you Tone, the pop white crowd tends to have this fixation on comparison. Seems to me it's part of the dynamic of living in a capatalist consumer society, and to be part of a group of people that 'consume' rather than activly experience the life of the songs written and produced by African American artists of the last 70 years. Soul music is emotional, spiritual, timeless, and it 's honest.

I mean...to compare Elvis to the Beatles? It's an apples and orange question.

There's one thread I saw that compared the Beatles to the Temptations...That said, it's best to pay them little or no mind because the posters show what little knowledge they have about music, and how it is not taken seriously. One has to have an emotional connection to the music, empircally as well as intellectually. When you hear people dissing music, take them with a grain of salt. I'm don't mean to condescend here but when we live an an age of fakes and that's what so many people are today, it becomes taxing to give attention to such asinine posts and comparisons. When people diss, it's more about the people that like that particular artists or genre', which says more about the disser than what he or she is dissing.

And yes, those tired old threads about some band or artist being 'overrated' Now that's where you're really swimming in the shallows.

I've always suggested reading the books written, co-written and ghost written about the artists and musicians. Some are not accurate, but the read will connect you with the period and what came out of those studios. You will come away with a better perspective on soul music and how it's DNA became embedded in the American music scene and how heavy an influence it is today, much, in some ways to the discomfort of the so-called 'mainstream' America represented by people of European descent.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 9, 2012 7:15:18 AM PDT
Tonè says:
<<<Mr. P: "I've yet to hear anyone of this race or demographic
make any disrespectful comments abbout The Beatles...in fact
its uusally the complete opposite">>>

Signor P,

While agreeing with the overall thrust of your posts, the above statement shall not go unchallenged. Just google "Beatles overrated" and you'll see.

Right here in Amazon, on the music forum, I got a sample of these threads:

- Why are there so many anti-Beatle threads here?
- I will wear "I'm a Beatle" on my Doliggle T-Shirt.
- Tiny Lemon or The Beatles?
- Elton John is better than the Beatles.
- Elvis or The Beatles?
- It's official: One Direction is a better band than The Beatles
- Are The Beatles any more "overated" than Elvis Presley, Micheal Jackson, Led Zeplin, Jimmy Hendrix, - The Doors, Nirvana, .. .
- Andy Timmons' Cover of Sgt. Pepper is WAY BETTER than the original!
- The Least Glorious Beatles Song Ever (excepting "Revolution #9 and a Few Others)

Posted on Jul 8, 2012 12:47:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 9, 2012 10:21:33 AM PDT
willgee says:
Totally agree, Mr. P.

That's why those of us who DO remember certain earlier eras of R&B music have a responsibility to MAKE KNOWLEDGE ACCESSIBLE to others....so that they CAN'T MAKE THE EXCUSE that THEY DON'T KNOW.

Over the last several years, I've been trying to do that, by commenting in blogs, appearing on radio shows, and starting threads on the internet about this issue. People need to know that, if Michael Jackson and Prince were dynamite performers, than they have Jackie Wilson and James Brown to thank for it . If The Temptations were known for exciting choreography, they have The Cadillacs, The Vibrations,The Imperials , The Flamingos , and The Famous Flames...and even further back, The Nicholas Brothers, to thank. Nothing is new under the sun. As you said , each succeeding generation thinks that THEIR generation invented music as we know it today. They need to see otherwise.

I've started some blogs on Charles Crossley's "Top of the Charts" forum. I did it for the very reasons I've stated. Articles on earlier artists should all be brought together UNDER ONE ROOF.... so that people can read them , and get the best possible overview on classic R&B Artists they may NOT know about.

I know that I'm just scratching the surface here, but it's a START. Hopefully others will join later, to give info on THEIR FAVORITES AS WELL:

1) THE MIRACLES : a 54 Page blog , with lots of rare facts and photos:

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles?page=1

2) GENE CHANDLER- The Duke of Earl: 19 pages so far- Gene just turned 75 just a couple of days ago...should have been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame YEARS ago...see my reasons why.

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1676/Gene-Chandler-The-Duke-Of-Earl

3) WHY DID MEMBERS OF THE FAMOUS FLAMES, THE MIDNIGHTERS, and THE MIRACLES SNUBBED BY THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ? (12 pages)

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1691/members---FAMOUS-FLAMES--MIDNIGHTERS---MIRACLES-SNUBBED

4) MARY WELLS: MOTOWN'S FIRST FEMALE SUPERSTAR (a brand new book is coming out on her this coming November: Mary Wells: The Tumultuous Life of Motown's First Superstar

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1805/MARY-WELLS-Motown-s-first-female-superstar

5) HERB REED - THE LAST SURVIVING ORIGINAL MEMBER OF "THE PLATTERS" has died. (4 pages)
(This one is by Cliff Adams).

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1785/Herb-Reed--last-surviving-original-member---Platters--died

(this next one is REALLY A PET PEEVE of mine):

6) THE GREAT "VOCAL GROUP" VS. "BAND" DEBATE: Which is Which ? (5 pages)

(just because Rock Groups are "Bands" , doesn't mean that we should use that term to describe R&B and Doo-Wop Vocal Groups too....)

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1721/THE-GREAT-VOCAL-GROUP-VS-BAND-DEBATE-WHICH-IS-WHICH

(More subjects are there...and more are coming).

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 12:03:26 PM PDT
Mr. P says:
M. Jones

"I also feel that Gospel artists should be included in that mix as well" Amen....all Black Popular Music is just the secular version of Gospel....u ask for any type of genre of R&B from the last 60 odd years.....and I'll play u an identical piece of music in style but that also is sanctified Gospel!

"Blues is the secular sibling of Gospel....
Where Gospel sings: Lord hear my prayer!
Blues shouts: Man just let me be!"

"Blues is the roots....everything else is the fruits."

Black American music history IS the history of modern popular music in the Western world. Every White artist since the late 1890's been biting the sound, style, rhythms, arrangements and vibe of Black American artists.

Without the Black diaspora in America [and the Carribean] and the music and experience that came with them ....everybody in the US and Europe would still be dancing to Waltzes, Military Marching Bands, Celtic Folks songs or Polkas!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 11:50:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 8, 2012 12:16:46 PM PDT
Mr. P says:
Willgee,

As someone who loves and lives all forms of R&B from Blues 2 the Hip Hop....its the way I grew....I always find its those who have a nostalgia for the certain bubble of R&B they only really know, who then go on to be ignorant of or disrespect what came before or after! Like only 'their' period or perception of R&B is the valid one. And then also dismiss anything that had its 'hey day' before their youth as old timer music. Completely missing the point that many young peeps feelin this vibe instead of what passes as R&B today.....and they also just dont know, want 2 know or care that there are artists today that do 'retro' styles of R&B [Gregory Porter, Sharon Jones & The Dapkings, Lizz Wright, Aloe Blacc etc.]...unless they White and mainstream [check out how many peeps been on this forum dissing pre-1963 R&B but who also thought Amy Winehouse was the second coming!]

Speaks volumes bout what some peeps were exxposed 2 when they were growin up. As my friend puts it 'too much Partridge Family not enuff Soul Train!" Lol!

What always makes me larf bout these peeps is often what they dont realise is that someone else [maybe younger] is looking at their peiod of R&B and thinkin the same thing.

For me this history of R&B is a journey....and when I aint feelin something today, I always dip back even deeper in2 yestaday.....its what led me 2 DJing. Also, imho all the most meaningful, quality artists of today all been heavily influenced by the classic periods of R&B [50's to 70's.] Most of the ish today can be clearly traced back to the contemporary R&B that started in the 80's.

I also find, that those who have a very blinkered view and undastanding of the history of R&B..and its many genres/flavas...are those for who the music was real important one time....has meaning and associations of important years in their lives [as it does with all of us of course]...but other interests and arts have superceeded just music, if u get my meaning. Its like its more a nostalgia trip these days.

Whats tragic bout all of this of course is that for the history of Black peoples... after all that was raped, stolen, abused and degraded....when language and education was denied and an offence....the music that came from these ancestors is a direct descendent of what is passing for entertainment today. By which I mean, the history of Black music as a communication, a culture, an expression is even more important as a living breathing testimony and an artform because of the African Holocaust.

How can peeps not know the history of their music!?

I've yet to find a White person aged between 15-45 years at any point over the last 20 years who does not have a good undatstanding, respect and knowledge of White pop acts from the last 50 years. I've yet to hear anyone of this race or demographic make any disrespectful comments abbout The Beatles...in fact its uusally the complete opposite. I've heard peeps on here dissing an R&B artist cos they were from their granaparents time....and yet give props to Madonna!!!

Personally for me, its a never ending passion. I'm still chasin the groove. Music gives my life meaning.

I search it out.....I dont believe the Hype. If it moves me.....thats all I need 2 know.

See, I dont know ish bout anything.....I just know bout the music cos it moves me, its been a journey from the womb [parents were musicians see]....so on my journey I noticed that there are those who like R&B music.....and then there are R&B Headz! And there's a difference.

I can tell within 5 minutes whether someone likes the music....and someone who is a R&B head. Some peeps truly love it.....for some of us....if they opened up our brains they'd see we were hardwired 4 R&B! Lol!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 11:28:22 AM PDT
Mr. P says:
Amen, Wolfhound!

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 3:58:09 PM PDT
Shining Star says:
Great Posts by Rick, Mr.P, Wolfhound and Willgee. I'm in complete agreement that the greats who established the firm foundation pre-1960's era should be put in first. I also agree that Rhythm and Blues were truly born out of Jazz (Rhythm) and the Blues, I also feel that Gospel artists should be included in that mix as well as the majority of the acts mentioned plus countless others cut their teeth in church choirs all around the country and truly learned about harmony and melodies while their.

It truly is ashamed that most don't know the fabulous history of what makes up "Black" music, it is the foundation for so much of what has become "Popular" in the modern times. I think about an artist like Sam Cooke who not only taught us what a great singer and songwriter was but how to truly be an established business man and that Blacks could own, manage and run their own companies and careers. I was watching a tribute about him early today and they made mention that before there was Dr. Dre, Sean Combs, Master P another artists who became moguls, there was Sam Cooke who was the first to truly set that standard.

Music history is very rich and diverse and Black music history is a major player in that.

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 1:43:21 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 7, 2012 1:44:44 PM PDT
willgee says:
I'm totally in agreement with Wolfhound. Many that are under a certain age, and that weren't around when the songs and artists of that era were on the charts, unless they do their homework, don't get the full facts on the music's history, or the artists who made it. The fact that a recent Disc Jockey in California made the statement to me, "Do you mean to tell me that Smokey Robinson once sang with a group?" Or that people thought that The Famous Flames was the name of James Brown's BAND instead of the VOCAL GROUP that they actually were, shows that gaining such knowledge is necessary. Tell a lie , or distort a fact , a hundred times, and people start believing it's the TRUTH. Clearly, more knowledge, and ACCESS to that knowledge , is needed .
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