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What ever happend to the San Francisco sound?


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Initial post: Aug 4, 2008 9:23:48 PM PDT
PGM says:
The 60's ,70's ,80's and even 90's had bands from SF that were national powerhouses (from Jefferson Airplane ,Creedence to Metallica) and now there are no new acts that are even mentioned for the new millennium.

Anybody know of any new acts that are in the horizon from SF?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:11:57 AM PDT
William Bopp says:
Well, couple things happened but first I think it is important to understand the term 'San Francisco sound" Being from SF does not earn a band the title of spokesmen for the bay city. Metallica is not a SF band, don't care where they are from. The Residents deserve the title of SF sound, see it is not so easy to define the title, but Metallica is not it. Neither are the Counting Crows despite their address.
What really more of less ended the SF sound is a lack of a pointless BS war that unites the creative population ... oh wait, there is such a pointless war going on. Okay, what happened mainly is that LSD is not as plentiful as it once was. Do not even bother to deny that LSD made a greater contribution to pop culture than either Elvis or oral sex. And perhaps more i mportantly, SF got to be too cool. Or more accurately, too famous for being cool. It is one of the most beautiful cities anywhere and that fact plus the undeniable cool factor made it too desirable. The very wealthy moved in, drove out the young and eccentric, the very folks who made SF the countercultural hotspot that it was and is. It is still a great place, but not many young artists can live there so....the rest is history.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 8:09:06 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 8:10:58 AM PDT
PGM says:
I forgot to mention those boys from Berkeley,Green Day ,who are the last group I
can remember that made it big nationally.

As for Metallica,they were part of the local speed metal scene that developed in the bay area,much like Green day were part of the local punk scene.

The first time I heard Green Day,I said Berkeley punk.
I had no idea where they were from,but from my days hanging out on Gilman back in the 80's,the sound was unmistakable.

Just because they weren't born here,doesn't mean it that San Francisco influence should be negated.

But my point is,there are no new big name rock acts around here anymore.
They're all pretty old and established.

As for the death of the Bohemian music scene,there is no doubt that the economics of the area contributes loss of a thriving musical underground that eventually gives us a national pop/rock icon.

As for the LSD thing, it was from a little house on 1647 Virginia Street in Berkeley,that changed a nations culture.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 10:21:19 AM PDT
It died of AIDS.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 10:25:19 AM PDT
Not sure if there any new acts. Don't really care.

To me, the SF sound will always be represented by Flipper & Chrome.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 11:35:38 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 11:41:15 AM PDT
And the best "Dead" band-
The Kennedys.

Let's not forget the Avengers, either, DB-

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 11:58:41 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 12:31:09 PM PDT
Thomas, thank you for the additions. How could I forget! Guess I need a holiday in Cambodia...Pol Pot!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 12:07:19 PM PDT
It died when Jerry Garcia died.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 12:41:45 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 12:43:04 PM PDT
Piehole says:
The "SF sound" is basically the music of the hippie movement: a combination of blues, folk, and psychedelic rock. Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin/Big Brother Holding Company, Grateful Dead, Santana, Quicksilver Messenger Service, etc. It was great while it lasted, but I think it died with the hippie movement. The Grateful Dead single handedly kept part of it going until Jerry died.

SF had a great punk scene, but it was not "the San Francisco Sound".

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:07:43 PM PDT
"SF had a great punk scene, but it was not "the San Francisco Sound"."

Well that depends whom you ask. I'm sure baby-boomers raised on Rolling Stone magazine probably think so. I am not of that generation. I listened to the SF punk/post-punk scene in my formative years. Most of the music, save for the early Airplane & Moby Grape stuff, just bores me to tears.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:25:07 PM PDT
It's still alive - in Spain! check out neo-psych band STAY's new version of Strawberry Alarm Clock's 'Rainy Day, Mushroom Pillow' - soon to be released by Fruits de Mer Records in a ridiculously limited colour vinyl pressing - www.myspace.com/fdmer2

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:27:23 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 1:29:08 PM PDT
Aptly put, Disco-
I grew up wearing the same DM's as you...
"Hot Wire My Heart", anytime-
used to make 'em scatter in all directions when I
threw MX-80 Sound on. With 198 seconds of the Dils
for a chaser-

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:36:08 PM PDT
Thomas, thanks for the "Hot Wire My Heart" reference. Never owned the 45...a bit too hard to obtain on the East Coast. I purchased the Rough Trade Shops, Rock n Roll Vol.1 CD just for it...man, that thing cooks!
Oh yeah, everything & anything on the old Ralph Records labels. That stuff warped my mind!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 1:58:02 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 5, 2008 5:02:24 PM PDT
A TRUE collectors piece in NY, for sure...along w/the
Dils and the Urinals 45's.
And Subterranean Records? SF based, also, I think.
Code Of Honor's "Beware The Savage Jaw" w/a
blond-haired, pock marked guitarist named Michael
D. Fox...I believe was on Sub. REAL good stuff -
bassist Dave Chavez went into Verbal Abuse.

MX-80 was brutally good-

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2008 8:01:18 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 1, 2008 1:12:31 AM PDT
Hipgnosis says:
The true San Francisco sound basically ended when the original hippie movement "died", probably around the mid 70's, and it's no coincidence that this was also when the punk movement was beginning!

Posted on Sep 13, 2011 8:43:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 14, 2011 12:58:55 PM PDT
There is still a huge artistic scene here. But for music in the '90's during the dot com period we got Manhattanized. People wanted small plates of expensive food and DJ's spinning. So, the musician who played for 40 years making a living here just left. When things get too expensive the working musician is outahere.

It's amazing the longevity and quality of music from the city. But tastes change and DJ's have taken over. A Scene or sound is like New Orleans, Austin and Jazz in New York. You can be an annonomus musician make a living playing your craft. Frisco still has a lot of music who knows what will come. Rock on.

Posted on Sep 14, 2011 11:37:35 AM PDT
vivazappa says:
It died the day The Village People put out Y.M.C.A.

Posted on Sep 14, 2011 12:59:10 PM PDT
Death By Disco.

Posted on Sep 14, 2011 1:57:36 PM PDT
Do Work says:
It sold out to the Rice a Roni folks.

Posted on Sep 19, 2011 8:11:07 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2011 8:12:41 PM PDT
K. Cooper says:
There were a lot of good hippie type bands that came out of san fran in the 60s and 70s. Why none now? you see the real estate prices in SF? SF is the last place hippies and struggling artists can afford to live while they learn their craft. Maybe they go to SF after they have a few gold records.

Posted on Sep 19, 2011 11:16:18 PM PDT
K. Cooper,

True !!!!!

Posted on Feb 23, 2012 10:06:02 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 23, 2012 10:41:56 AM PST
Whom ever is playing in some run-down bar or dive in San Francisco tonight will be playing music with the San Francisco sound. And that guy on Market Street with a guitar collecting change as the walkers try to avoid him has got the San Francisco sound as well. Where is Life Magazine? There ain't any decent LSD to be found anywhere and nobody is playing at the Red Dog Saloon in Virginia City, Nevada tonight....so how can we find a sound?

This is 2011 and we ain't got rocket packs and robots like on: The Jetsons......It's a rip off!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 23, 2012 10:25:01 AM PST
Bob says:
I agree I grew up in northern california and the movement of the 60s & 70s days long gone very fond days.......Bob

Posted on Feb 23, 2012 10:25:43 AM PST
vivazappa says:
Phillip...
You must have found some decent LSD...it's 2012 ;)
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