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Initial post: Dec 18, 2012 2:25:36 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 3:15:10 PM PST
HJ Leonard says:

We're experiencing Troll takeover/shutdown on the old thread = Version 2, so time to start over. I'm posting the original post (that sounds funny) and then will add a bit more at the end, with a few edits:


I've experienced this. You may have experienced. MANY have experienced it.

You read a book and leave an honest review, maybe not a good review, but honest. After all, you want to let other potential readers know what they might be getting themselves into. That IS the purpose of a book review, after all. To give one's opinion about said book. Reviews are for readers, not for authors.

Let's say that again. Reviews are for readers, not for authors.

We all know that opinions are subjective. Not everyone always agrees, but opinions are usually (not always, though) relevant for someone determining whether or not they'd be interested in investing their time reading something.

So...having said all that (apologies if it was long-winded), there are occasions when a reviewer or commenter is chastised - by the AUTHOR! *mumbles under breath, `wrong, disgraceful, unprofessional, inappropriate, and immature...'*

Occasionally, a wise author realizes their mistake, apologizes and retreats once this has been pointed out. Rarely, but it DOES happen. And they may even take to heart the complaints and go about fixing the issues. To those authors, I applaud you and thank you.

Much more frequently, unwise authors make a line in the sand and begin a barrage of insults and nasty posts, even taking the battle to blogs and other venues to gripe that someone had the nerve NOT to like their book. Do they not realize that they are participating in their own defeat? Of course not. They have blinders on and are unable to recognize that the readers - ALL readers, not just the ones who praise them - are paying/potential customers who hold the author's success in the palms of their hands.

Likewise, many of those same authors (but certainly not limited to) send spam across threads and get belligerent or even lie when confronted by posters informing them of Amazon's Terms of Service.

Well then.

Has this happened to you? Have you witnessed it? Have you been a defender of a reader who has been attacked?


Those who've been following along are well aware of the trolls who like like to wreak havoc on this thread. It is up to you, of course, but many of us have found the 'ignore' button very useful.

Additionally, I would like to point out that the goal of this thread is NOT to destroy fledgling (or any) authors, but to teach them how to be a professional author by pointing out missteps. Those who wish to be successful and cultivate potential followings will take this to heart. Those who belittle, troll, insult, and retaliate clearly are looking for 'any' publicity.

Many of our trolls and their sidekicks claim that we are bullies. Yeah. Okay. But we aren't the ones posting lists publicly, nor are we the ones posting personal info (addresses, phone numbers, photos, private details) of any authors. If calling attention to poor public behavior is bullying, then most of the media is going to be subject to closer scrutiny as well.

So, onwards we go. Who's misbehaving now?

Edited to add a final note:

We've identified a DVAH (Down Voting AutHole) conspiracy, so anyone so inclined to hit the 'YES' button would be much appreciated. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:27:43 PM PST
Tomcat™ says:

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:28:48 PM PST
In2books says:
Thanks for keeping this thread going. I think it has been an important part of getting Amazon to look at and start cleaning up their reviews.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:29:21 PM PST
Glad to see you on the next page. I'll be around - I got here by ferry.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:30:29 PM PST
cathyr says:
*waves* It's Christmas. Surely no one is Badly Behaved atm. Santa has those lists you know...

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:30:55 PM PST
In2books says:
Boy the mods are on the ball today. Those post are already toast. Thanks guys!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:35:24 PM PST
Awesome thread! LOL! I just barely found y'all and then get stomped on by the mean ol' trolls!! Egads! Trial by fire, I guess.

Will be keeping an eye out. Have been in my share of "discussions" with angry authors so will be looking for tips and advice because I have no intention of keeping my mouth shut when a book just plain sucks. :O)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:36:04 PM PST
HJ Leonard says:
Welcome aboard!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:37:13 PM PST
cathyr says:
I have no idea what the trolls thought they'd (he'd?) gain from that - two sock puppets, some period of time spent getting a list of spam ready to go, and it stays on Amazon all of 10 minutes.

Gee, that was worth the trouble.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:38:15 PM PST
If anyone is interested, the guilty parties were Megan from Florida and Costello from Santa Monica.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:41:54 PM PST
Thanks HJ for starting another thread. Did anyone here experience a weird "Groundhog Day" experience with the ending of the last thread? It's quite sad that said trolls were so...un-original. It had already been done. It doesn't really matter about the two trolls blank profiles; just a sad immitation of the trolls before them. I hope they were banned.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:41:58 PM PST
They may have been in a hurry because they were holding their breaths. Funny....I see these two nerds sitting side by side on the bed, trying not to giggle so Mom won't ask why they're not doing their homework.
A part of me hopes they start now on this one and have to tap out nine thousand nine hundred and so on...their little fingers will be too sore to play World of Warcraft.
Then, HJ will just start another one. As Bugs Bunny would say, "Whooo! What a maroon!"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:45:44 PM PST
If I could have, I would have replied to you in the previous thread. Sad little trolls.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:49:06 PM PST
Maybe they just thought they would help out and close out the thread... like Santa's Helpers

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:50:35 PM PST
It must be frustrating for them, thinking they're living under a bridge only to find out it's just something floating in the water. Oops. Just watched The Hobbit last night, so my metaphors might be a little rusty. Great one-third of a movie, though....
Then again....if similes are all I need, then what's a metaphor?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:50:52 PM PST
HJ Leonard says:
It was a thoughtful gift. I needed the extra motivation to get this one going. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:52:08 PM PST
barump bump!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:54:52 PM PST
Okay, I started my theme, so I'll keep it going, It couldn't have been that hard, right? Kind of like Bugs Bunny having to outsmart Elmer Fudd?
Imagine, Fudd....creeping through the undergrowth in the Amazon, mumbling...."OOOh! Those Wascally Weaders! Who would've thought they'd just start a new thwead?"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:55:04 PM PST
Stefani140 says:
It seems lately there is always someone behaving badly...some people just prefer the naughty list :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:59:36 PM PST
LOL! Yeah Michael, anyone living under a bridge is probably pretty darned bitter. I find it sad that they don't have much of a life: sheesh, anyone (and I think it was one person) that can post so fast and furious, probably needs a life coach to point out some basic things about enjoying life. Very sad.

By the way, I am JEALOUS that you have already seen The Hobbit. My husband and I? We will probably opt for Skyfall...2.75 hours of the first part of The Hobbit? I think the whole book could have been shot in said time, and I personally found The Hobbit to be my favorite book in the series. <- Sorry for the OT statements, but I am a Tolkien-phile.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:10:07 PM PST
Welcome, S.A.~

Immediately put the trolls on ignore and don't look. You'll feel so much better and you won't miss anything worthwhile. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:11:10 PM PST
I didn't read the posts, but I immediately thought ot Star*** and his alternate personalities.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:14:17 PM PST
HJ Leonard says:
Or an inspired copycat. Certainly no one with an original thought.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 3:16:26 PM PST
Hey y'all! ~waves

Glad to see y'all here.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:17:10 PM PST
HJ Leonard says:
Hi Janet! Oh, Off topic...I'll return the book you lent. Thanks!
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