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Posted on Dec 19, 2014 3:23:58 PM PST
Does the hero in Margarita and the Earl at least grovel before they embark on the HEA?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2014 2:00:46 PM PST
boogenhagen says:
Joan Wolf's H's cheat because they can and because wealthy men had mistresses in the time period she writes about. There isn't any extenuating circumstances, they basically do it because they can. It is one of the elements that makes her stories realistic. Several of her stories are aristocratic marriages for money and dynastic reasons and thus the H cheat while falling in love with h. To the Castle has the H cheating with one woman and then sleeping with h hours later.

I would say if cheating bothers you in historical romance, don't read them.

Posted on Dec 19, 2014 1:14:59 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2014 1:17:43 PM PST
Judge Tabor says:
I recently discovered Joan Wolf and I am loving her books that I've read thus far, however, while checking out others, I've come across a couple that apparently have cheating heroes. Can anyone shed any light on these books? I'm not going to buy and read them unless there are some extenuating circumstances that might "partially" excuse the cheating. I can't really imagine how there could be, but wanted to inquire. The books I'm referring to are:

Margarita and the Earl

The Scottish Lord

Normally, I would rely on the reviews, but there are very few reviews on these books. I even checked out the reviews on Goodreads, but not enough to form an opinion.

Posted on Dec 19, 2014 10:13:30 AM PST
Pudding 1950 says:
This is for anyone to answer:
1-I have enjoyed a few of Danielle Steels' books in the past. Can you spoil SOUTHERN LIGHTS for me? I want to know how much of the story is about the crime/trial. I really DO NOT want to read that, but I might if it does not dominate the story. And where is the romance in the story?
2-COMPROMISE by Holly Hands seems to have the potential to be the kind of story I prefer. But it is $9.99 for 152 pages, PLUS seems to be a cliffhanger. Any further information would be appreciated.
Thanks very much and HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!!!!

Posted on Dec 16, 2014 8:31:18 AM PST
B. Lim says:
Embracing Series Free

Embracing Love is the story of Lila, Liam and Evan. Lila and Liam have been dating for six months, she is going off to college and he's joining the Army. Once Lila moves to New York, she meets Evan. Although he knew Lila has a boyfriend that doesn't stop him from falling for her. Once tragedy hits, Lila finds herself in the arms of Evan. Not knowing what the future holds for her with Liam, she decides to act on her feelings for Evan. Once Liam returns, she is unsure what to do and where to turn.
Borrowed is Evan Martins point of view. He's a country boy with a big heart and he falls hard for all the wrong girls. He has the worst luck when it comes to love. The one woman he wants to spend the rest of his is already engaged to someone else. He then meets Lila, but as always she is taken also. Although she is in love with someone else, Evan remains by her side, waiting for that opportunity. Once he gets his chance, and thinks he has truly found the one, things completely change in a blink of an eye.
Embracing Us, is the continuance from Embracing Love. In this book, we learn a lot about Lila and why she did the things she did in Embracing Love. We learn more about Liam and see how hurt he is from Lila's actions. Can Liam ever move past what has happened and trust Lila again? Relationships are tested and love is on the line. Friendships are threatened and hearts are torn. Will they get their happily ever after?

Posted on Dec 15, 2014 5:18:35 AM PST
sab -- I also enjoyed Smart Blondes. Yes, a good grovel would be nice but the H was pretty narcissistic and did what would make HIM feel good at the time. The supporting characters were great; a very good read. Good HEA with new guy.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 15, 2014 1:16:49 AM PST
sab says:
Readerland, thank you so much for recommending smart blondes. It was a very good read, leaving you with a good feeling because of all the beautiful supporting characters but (as always with the human nature) I would have been more happy if the husband wanted the h back while she moved on with her life. Overall a very good book.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 7, 2014 1:57:15 PM PST
Pudding 1950 says:
Hello Kim ....Thank you so much for being willing (!) To send it to me, but I think it would tempt me to throw my Kindle against the wall. I have been tempted too much lately!!!! I could not get L to remain kept changing to K.....sorry

Posted on Dec 7, 2014 4:33:36 AM PST
boongenhagen -- thanks for the spoilers. This sounds like a wallbanger. I will definitely veer away from this one.

Posted on Dec 6, 2014 10:21:32 AM PST
boogenhagen says:
BTW - you can get Megan Crane's Once More With Feeling as part of a boxed set for .99 A Modern Day Fairy Tale - there are some Jane Porters in there too.

Posted on Dec 6, 2014 10:15:04 AM PST
boogenhagen says:
Yahaira graciously spoiled On the Big White Oak on page 43 of this thread -- below is a repost of her post.


The book starts off with an old lady going to see a therapist claiming she needs to talk to someone. Her identity isn't revealed until the end. She starts the story from the beginning and then it transitions to the 3 main characters' point of views.
Adam and Marian grew up together and she has always loved him, but he eventually meets her cousin Delia who is drop dead gorgeous and falls head over heals in love with her. The 2 get married and have a pretty blissful marriage in the beginning. Marian, in the meantime, tries to move on and be happy for the two people she loves most in the world.
After Delia finds out she cannot have children she goes into a severe depression and has to be institutionalized; on the day she is taken away, Adam and Marian sleep together. Let me point out that he made the first move, not Marian.
When he finds out that Marian is pregnant and it's his, he is relieved to learn that she plans on having an abortion. At the last minute, Marian changes her mind and decides to have her baby. Adam is upset about this because he is afraid the truth will eventually come out and Delia will have a relapse. In the end, they both decide that the baby's paternity will be kept secret.
Several years pass and Marian raises her daughter on her own, with help from Delia (who adores the little girl) and Adam. The problems start when Marian meets a really nice guy and falls in love with him. At this point, Adam starts to become extremely jealous of the new guy's relationship with his daughter and starts to resent Delia. You see how he starts to question his whole life and whether Delia was worth his sacrificing his daughter.
Some more time goes on, Marian marries her new guy and Adam starts an affair with a random freelance photographer. He even starts to claim that his affair saved his marriage because before he would be very impatient and moody with Delia, but after he started hooking up with this other chick, he would be more relaxed and romantic with his wife. There are several instance in the book when he goes straight from having sex with his mistress to having sex with Delia. Let me also point out that Adam starts to behave differently with Marian and starts becoming seemingly possessive of his daughter.
Marian starts to also question her own feelings and realizes that Adam will always be her one true love, but that she loves her daughter and Delia more. It is while she is pondering this that she runs a red light and DIES.....I was freaking shocked!!!!
Everybody is heartbroken over Marian's death, including Delia who loved her like a sister and Adam, who apparently has an epiphany and realizes that Marian was his soul-mate. Finally one night Delia wakes up from a nightmare and finds Adam putting some clothes in a bag. He starts to ramble about how he has to leave because the moment she finds out how he betrayed her she will leave him anyways because his betrayal can never be forgiven. He never specifically tells her what he did, but before he leaves he tell Delia to not "hate her." Adam then walks out of Delia's life this point you realize who the old woman is.
Delia then finishes telling her therapist that Adam fought for custody of his daughter and was able to raise her. She eventually discovered the whole truth upon reading Marian's journal, which she had written from the time she was a little girl to the day before she died. Delia tells her therapist how angry and bitter she became after finding out the truth; she left for Europe and married an older rich man. She came back after her second husband died and left her all his money. She still loves Adam and actually spied on him a few times to see how he looked and what his life was like. Adam never remarried and lived by himself after his daughter grew up and moved out. Delia never showed herself to him because she wanted him to remember her the way she used to look. By the time Delia sees the therapist, Adam had already passed away a few years ago.
Once she finishes telling her story to the therapist she leaves him to ponder his own life.

*************End of Spoilers*************

I would advise that people downvote on this thread mainly cause they just don't like cheating books-- so they click the little button to disapprove of people who read them. I wouldn't take it personally.

Posted on Dec 6, 2014 6:59:49 AM PST
Thanks for trying for spoilers. I went on Goodreads to try to find something. Looks like this book probably has too much angst for me. I like a HEA and I want it to be with the H and h.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 6, 2014 6:10:47 AM PST
Lilian Rose,

I'm sorry, but I have never read it. I just recognised the name when I saw it on the freebie thread. I remembered it being discussed a few times in this thread and also at least once or twice in the betrayal thread and the love triangle thread.

It is a love triangle between two best friend's/cousins and their child hood friend they grew up with. I think it's more Women's Fic or General Fic than traditional romance. I remember it seemed like it was a very emotional read from what posters were saying, with a bittersweet ending rather than a HEA. If I recall correctly, I was afraid to read it even though it was thought to be well written. I wasn't brave enough for the heartbreak and lack of HEA.

If you search thread I know there are spoilers somewhere. I searched last night and found lots of posts, but just now when I searched so I could tell you where to look, t keeps telling me 0 matching results. Not sure why. Sorry I can't be of more help.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 6, 2014 5:51:17 AM PST
readerland says:
Yeah, Lillian Rose, I take down vote to mean person doesn't agree. That's all it can be, since this was a cheater book on a cheater thread and, since FREE, cost no money to enjoy.

I just wanted some discussion if that person felt she didn't like the book.

Oh, well **shrug** no skin off. I just like lively discussions (as you know.) LOL!!

I gotta get to work...hate working on a Saturday but hospitals don't close.

Posted on Dec 6, 2014 5:40:20 AM PST
Can someone spoil "On the Big White Oak?"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 5, 2014 10:31:22 PM PST
Lillian Rose says:

To me you were notifying us of a book, and that it is FREE, and also a bit about it. This thread is about gathering information about new or old cheating books, how could that be a negative vote???

Do people vote negative when they dislike the book mentioned? I thought maybe a second or any posts after the first notification of the book then if they don't like it or disagree with a poster then that's why they vote down or up. I myself like to vote with my comments. I can see sometimes when there are so many commenting and your coment being the same as previous comments you vote as to agreeing or disagreeing with what is said. But this was a first notification.

Is that right? Is that the way it works?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 5, 2014 10:25:25 PM PST
Lillian Rose says:

Could you please give spoilers. Thanks.

Posted on Dec 5, 2014 10:05:52 PM PST
Pudding, the book was discussed on some thread. I had to read the blurb to remember what it was about. Very unlikable characters. Short SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER. Wife finds husband and her sister, her parents tell her to get over it, he has accident, in a coma, she wants to fix marriage, he says ok until he decides to stay with pregnant sister because it was twoo wuv, she renews relationship with another man. Book ends. I did not like it and have no desire to read it again. Maybe someone with fonder memories can do a better job. I hated the sister. A spoiled rotten narcissist.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 5, 2014 8:27:37 PM PST
B. Lim says:
Once More With Feeling (Tule Holiday) by Megan+Crane is was free for a long time.

I loan it to you if you want just send me your email Pudding 1950

Posted on Dec 5, 2014 8:24:51 PM PST
Pudding 1950 says:
HELP! Has anyone read ONCE MORE WITH FEELING by Megan Crane? If so, please spoil it for me. It seems interesting, but I do not want to spend time and money to read about another woman rolling over and playing dead when she walks in on her husband and her sister doing the nasty in their bedroom.
Thank you

Posted on Dec 5, 2014 8:24:22 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 5, 2014 8:25:42 PM PST
readerland says:
Whoever down voted Smart Blonds, sure wish you'd say why. I liked it, was a cheater book, so wish you'd contribute to a discussion about it. It's kind of cheater book I've been wanting to read, truthfully.
An h who gets back at cheater,. the nanny skank, and the witch of a MIL. h ends up with everything, including a new love, who happens to be a hunky ex-Navy Diver. He's good to her, she gets the $MIL mansion, the cheater's business, his money and cheater is "allowed" to stay in the mansion 'cause it's a house she doesn't really need. She was NOT vindictive about it...she was very much in love with hubby, but he ruined everything himself by his own actions and even fesses up to it. This cheater got his due.
Wanna discuss?

ETA: I meant to say she was NOT vindictive or bitter in her actions. Cheater created his own down fall.

Posted on Dec 5, 2014 6:35:10 PM PST
On the Big White Oak

I just noticed this book on the freebies thread. It has been discussed a few times in the past here on on this thread. Thought I'd post it in case anyone is interested.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 5, 2014 2:25:45 PM PST
Lillian Rose says:

I liked this too, even though I did skim it. But to me it is worth a reread and read it properly. But the best thing about it, it was free.

Posted on Dec 5, 2014 2:08:53 PM PST
readerland says:
Smart Blondes

FREE and a good read to me. h finds her hubby doing nasty w/nanny. You gotta like Southern drawl and humor and small-town nosiness and (thankfully) small -town "we've got your back." This is one where h gets cheated on, completely falls apart...really falls apart...then picks herself up with help of very loyal, connected friends/family. She gets EVERYTHING, including payback. Big payback.

Posted on Nov 21, 2014 10:10:17 AM PST
I wasn't sure whether to ask this here or on the Worst Betrayal thread, but has anybody read Repeat Performance by Lynda Trent?

Is it a cheating book? At the very least, it sounds like a betrayal book -- even if it ends up being one of those "noble H dumps the love of his life to marry the pregnant mistress of his 2nd cousin's best friend because, gosh darn it, the baby needs a father and even though he's never met the mistress (or even the 2nd cousin's best friend), he doesn't mind torpedoing his own life or his soulmate's life because that's what noble, moronic, interfering H's do" wallbangers.

Back cover --

Years ago, Jordan Landry had broken their engagement--and Carley Kingston's heart--to marry another woman. Left behind in the small Texas community of Apple Tree, where rumors and gossip die hard, Carley had tried to forget--but she hadn't forgiven.

Now Jordan was back, and not only Carley, but the entire town, were on their toes! As the two long-ago lovers exchanged angry remarks and poisonous smiles, the townsfolk eavesdropped shamelessly. It looked as if the star-crossed pair was going to give romance another shot! But how would this repeat performance end? Would Jordan make another dramatic exit--or would Carley steal the show?
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