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Initial post: Jun 6, 2011 9:13:28 AM PDT
i have noticed that many kindle books cost more than the paper ones which i cannot understand. could somebody tell me the reason?

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 10:00:36 AM PDT
Jean says:
Publisher greed?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 10:28:49 AM PDT
If I have to buy the gadget first (which is not cheap) and then pay for the wireless procedure more expensively, why would i prefer it over the paper?

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 10:52:48 AM PDT
AJ says:
It seems the more popular the Kindle becomes, the more expensive the books. One book I was interested in was twice as much as the paperback. I like my Kindle, but not enough to pay double for a book.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 10:54:28 AM PDT
Emerald says:
Can you give us some links for the books in question?

Are the expensive kindle books stories you actually were interested in, or are you wanting to start a theoretical discussion as to why people like their kindles?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 11:50:36 AM PDT
Ridley says:
"could somebody tell me the reason?"

Agency pricing.

When Apple launched the iPad last spring, Steve Jobs did that thing he does where he threw the consumer under the bus to cozy up to content providers. He went to publishers and sold them on the agency model for ebook sales, where retailers would be mere agents on an ebook sale. Previously, ebooks were sold on the retail model like paper books. Retailers would pay a wholesale price per unit then set their own retail price. With agency pricing, retailers never take "possession" of the ebook. The publisher sets the price, and the retailer just facilitates the sale.

The six major publishers - Simon & Schuster, HarperCollins, Random House, Macmillan, Penguin Putnam and Hachette - sell their books on the agency model. They set the price and no retailer can offer discounts, sales or coupons on the sale. You can look up "retail price management" to see how this is legal and not illegal price fixing (hint: it involves a court decision during the last Bush administration.)

Now, why would publishers do this? There's a few reasons. One, they're trying to discourage ebook sales in an effort to prop up the much more profitable hardcover market. Two, they wanted to resist downward pressure on ebook prices by keeping them artificially high and maybe avoid having consumers think ebooks should be much cheaper than paper. Three, they didn't like how much influence Amazon had on the market, especially re: pricing.

If you notice an anti-consumer bent in their logic, you're on the money. Publishers have never seen readers as their customers. They're only concerned with getting product into retailers' hands. The good news is that agency pricing is turning out to be a bit of a failure, especially in mass market segments like romance. While the number of ereader units has grown sharply, sales of agency priced romance has tumbled while retail priced romance ebooks have taken off. Amazon's current Sunshine Deals ebook sale, with non-agency books priced at $.99, $1.99 and $2.99, was organized with those publishers in an effort to show that customers reject agency prices and will eat up lower-priced books.

So, agency may be on its way out. In the meantime, shop small publishers and indie authors who price them right. Lots of OOP authors are self-publishing their backlists in ebook - Alexis Harrington, Barbara Samuel, Connie Mason, Patricia Ryan, and many others - and you can grab time-tested classics for $.99-$2.99. Branch out beyond the Big 6, and you can still find good deals.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 12:04:47 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 6, 2011 12:11:26 PM PDT
I started the discussion because some of the books I wanted to read are only available on Kindle. I searched the market for the gadget but I was told that since it is the latest technology, I would have to pay from 150-400 euros. In that case, I definitely prefer to buy the real book which will stay on my shelves for as long as I like. And, since I happen to love my books, I think I will stick to my old habits and let technology pass.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 12:25:40 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 6, 2011 12:27:02 PM PDT
Bitchie says:
I prefer it over the paper because I can have what I want when I want it.

I prefer it over the paper because I can take as many books as I want with me, and not worry about finishing up and not having anything to read.

I prefer it over the paper because it's lightweight and easy to hold.

I prefer it over the paper because it doesn't get smelly and germy and the pages never fall out.

I prefer it over the paper because it comes with a built in dictionary, and if I get busy, it can read to me at the touch of a button.

I prefer it over the paper because I don't have to wait to go to the bookstore, library, or on the postman.

While no one LIKES higher prices, I do feel that I get more out of my Kindle books than my paper ones, so I'm not completely opposed to paying a dollar or two more.

Now yes, some publishers are going WAY overboard with backlisted titles, charging nearly 20 bucks for kindle editions when the MMP was out 15 years ago and can be bought for about 6 bucks, so I get the complaints there.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 12:43:54 PM PDT
AJ says:
Emerald - If your question was directed to me, it was a book classified as "Erotica". Those are usually more expensive anyway, but since I did not buy the book, I cannot remember the title.

Ridley - Thank you for providing an answer that makes some sense. I just could not understand why Amazon would not have some pull with publishers considering e-readers will be redundant if no one purchases books in that format.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 1:06:36 PM PDT
AJ says:
Lacey Alexander's, What She Needs, is $5.60 in paperback and $11.99 for the Kindle version. I just do not understand the pricing on this one.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 1:29:41 PM PDT
Bitchie says:
The regular/list price of What She Needs (paperback) is $14. It's just that Amazon is allowed to give a discount on the paperback, but due to Agency Pricing, they can't discount the Kindle version.

If you went to a bookstore that didn't offer discounts at all, you would be paying $14 for the paperback of that book. It sucks that Amazon can't discount Agency Priced Kindle books, but it isn't their decision, you have the big six publishers and Steve Jobs to thank for that one.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM PDT
Banana Boat says:
When you see the price of a paperback is $7.99 and the Kindle version is also $7.99, which do you buy? I love the feel of a hand held book but I also love my Kindle. I'm curious to know what others do. It irritates to pay the same for both...

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 1:47:03 PM PDT
Bitchie says:
I haven't read a single paper book since I got my Kindle in december of '09. I love my Kindle and can't see myself ever going back!

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 1:55:43 PM PDT
Banana Boat says:
I buy quite a few used books here on Amazon or at local book stores. Saves me money and allows me to buy even more!

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 2:10:26 PM PDT
Susinok says:
I know that some Ellora's Cave books are cheaper for Kindle on their website than they are on Amazon. Maybe it's the same deal with Samhain Publishing. Have you checked Samhain's website to see what it's priced there?

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 2:14:43 PM PDT
IRT to What She Needs - the publisher is NAL who is notorious for marking up their prices, HOWEVER, the print copy is a bargain bin copy and only 2 print versions left, which means they are trying to get rid of the product for a new shipment, or something like that - so is it fair to compare the two? it's like going to B&N and picking up a book that is on the shelf outside and then going to borders which might not be the same and asking for them to price match

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 2:17:31 PM PDT
GhostWolf says:
For some of the publishers it is better to check out their site before ordering from Amazon. Ellora is one of them. At least there you can have to not only the mobi version by others (in case you want to read it on another type of device - no drm).

It does get frustrating when I notice that MMPs that I purchased a few years ago for about $7 are now $15 dollars on Kindle. I really don't get the rationale with the pricing. I have a feeling that publishers are noticing that ebooks are maybe outselling print so they hike up the ebook version to make up the profit (that's how I see it).

I now regularly go to ereaderiq where you can watch for price drops and freebies daily.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 2:52:04 PM PDT
Ridley says:
That's just an Ellora's Cave thing. They charge a higher list price for all 3rd party retailers.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 3:16:44 PM PDT
flipoid says:
Banana Boat, since I received my Kindle, I rarely look at the price of print books. The only time I will is if the e-book price (because only the hardcover print book is available) is more than I want to pay at a particular time. Then, I will wait until the mass market paperback is released because, more often than not, the e-book price is dropped to at least equal the mass market price.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 6:05:52 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 6, 2011 6:10:54 PM PDT
YepIt'sBecky says:
The first week samhain publishes a book they offer 30% off for the week.

Edited: I now plan a head and purchase all my Samhain books through them the first week of publication.

If you check out there coming soon they generally have up to 8 weeks scheduled.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2011 6:39:26 PM PDT
Heather says:
For me it depends. Is it a series that I love and started in paper? Then I'll buy the paperback. If I started the series in paper and like it but don't love it I might get in in Kindle.
If the book is a series starter I'll buy it in Kindle.
The reasoning doesn't really make sense but it works for me :)

Heather

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 6:42:56 PM PDT
Dog Lover says:
I am absolutely on my knees and BEGGING this forum not to start with the eBook price issue! The Kindle forum is just overrun with this stuff.

Here's the thing - look it up. "Publishers set the price" for eBooks. This is based on the Agency Agreement conceived of and pushed through by Steve Jobs a couple of years back. Amazon can discount DTBs but they can not discount eBooks. If the price is too high in your opinion (for whatever reasons you choose to form that opinion), then do not buy the book.

The only thing that will affect publisher decisions is the success of the pricing strategy. It people don't buy them at the asking price, they will, no doubt, lower those prices.

This is the single most contentious topic on the K forum. Not because of the issue itself but because of the gazillion threads (all saying the exact same thing) on the topic.

Please please please let this topic die with this thread on this forum. I'd hate to see this forum become the battle ground that the K forum has become over this stuff. BTW - if you read some of the threads on the K forum about this, you'll learn a lot about this (and read a lot of !@#%$% too.)

Thank you.

DL

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 8:01:25 PM PDT
Bitchie says:
I second what DL said. Let's keep it about the books and not about prices over various formats.

Posted on Jun 6, 2011 8:17:21 PM PDT
Bronwyn says:
Hey DL and DMommy

As a romance reader, I got a Kindle specifically because I had so many books piling up. (Actually my hubby got it because he was fed up of tripping over books with bare chested men on the front!)

However, when I see that the Kindle version of Kiss of Snow is $12.99 and the paperback is $7.99, that's a big deal to me. That's a $5 difference- couple bucks more and I can get another book.

When I first got my Kindle, the e-book prices were less than the paperbacks. When they became the same, lots of customers made a stink, however we were told, 'it is what it is, you want the convenience of a Kindle, just deal with it.'

Now the Kindle books are priced MORE than a regular book, and you're telling me I can't come on a forum and at least vent about it?

Sorry.

P.S I'm surprised Steve Jobs hasn't died yet, from the mass of negative energy he inspires in people. Yes I went there.

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