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Posted on Feb 17, 2013 8:30:45 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 17, 2013 8:31:17 AM PST
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/science/space/dismissed-as-doomsayers-advocates-for-meteor-detection-feel-vindicated.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130217&_r=0

VINDICATION FOR ENTREPRENEURS WATCHING SKY: YES, IT CAN FALL
"The meteor that rattled Siberia on Friday ... has suddenly brought new life to efforts to deploy adequate detection tools, in particular a space telescope that would scan the solar system for dangers."

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 17, 2013 11:39:28 PM PST
"What, no alien/Tunguska connection "speculations" here?! "

nah, it was an American Imperialist attack on Russia, haven't you been following the news? (yes, people are claiming that, including Russian politicians).

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 2:28:02 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Considerably less bizarre than "speculating" that it might be aliens, but nonsensical all the same. LOL

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 6:03:42 AM PST
indeed, and far more dangerous... What if Putin had heard it was a US attack and decided to counterstrike using some of those ICBMs hidden in the Siberian taiga?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 6:25:41 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Not to mention those batteries of anti-UFO cauldron canons (or whatever M&Ms-with-hyphens-and-nuts calls them)! Those suckahs even got ET phoning home!

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 10:37:08 AM PST
J.T. Wenting -

There has already been a Russian politician calling the meteor "an American weapon." But no one is taking him seriously:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279629/Thats-meteor-American-weapon-test-Russian-politicians-bizarre-claim-10-ton-space-rock-Cuba-claims-hit-earlier-week.html
METEOR AS AMERICAN WEAPON?

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 10:47:34 AM PST
http://science.time.com/2013/02/14/asteroid-hits-earth-how-the-doomsday-scenario-would-play-out/?iid=sci-main-lead?xid=newsletter-weekly

AN ASTEROID DOOMSDAY SCENARIO

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2013 3:25:24 AM PST
MM

I know he wasn't taken seriously, this time... But such thinking is pretty wide spread.

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 8:33:13 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 23, 2013 3:31:56 PM PST
J. T. Wenting -

It's always easiest to grab onto the ole' "our enemy must have done it!" excuse.

But I've been doing some research for another forum, and asteroid impacts seem to be happening more frequently in our solar system, with astronomers baffled about the impacts on Jupiter in the last half-decade or so:

http://www.space.com/8567-astronomers-perplexed-jupiter-collisions.html
(June 2010) ASTRONOMERS PERPLEXED BY JUPITER COLLISIONS

http://www.space.com/17534-jupiter-impact-explosion-amateur-astronomers.html
(Sept. 2012) JUPITER IMPACTED BY HUGE FIREBALL

There have been tantalizing hints that there may be a mini solar system moving into our Sol system, but I couldn't find any serious corroboration. Still, as usual, our military seems to know things the rest of us don't:

http://www.space.com/6829-military-hush-incoming-space-rocks-classified.html
(2009) SPACE ROCKS THAT EXPLODE IN THE ATMOSPHERE ARE NOW CLASSIFIED

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2013 9:00:08 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 19, 2013 9:01:45 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
"There have been tantalizing hints that there may be a mini solar system moving into our Sol system"

Oh, so now you're thinking it's NOT related to the many-light-years-distant Vega or Fomalhaut systems?

LOL. Keep looking for that "serious corroboration". The Truth is out there!!!

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Is that up a little from yesterday?! Did it sell a copy?! Kudos! :D

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2013 9:12:42 AM PST
M. Helsdon says:
"(2009) SPACE ROCKS THAT EXPLODE IN THE ATMOSPHERE ARE NOW CLASSIFIED"

No, it's the capability of the sensors that is classified; providing data on what a satellite sensor has seen permits its sensitivity to be determined.

"(June 2010) ASTRONOMERS PERPLEXED BY JUPITER COLLISIONS"

Jupiter's gravity well is such that it sweeps up (and also diverts, sometimes towards the inner system) asteroids, comets, the debris of the Solar System. The article isn't about the collision being perplexing, but what the body was - asteroid or comet.

"(Sept. 2013) JUPITER IMPACTED BY HUGE FIREBALL"

The fireball is caused by an object (asteroid or comet) hitting Jupiter's atmosphere. It's happening all the time.

"But I've been doing some research for another forum, and asteroid impacts seem to be happening more frequently in our solar system, with astronomers baffled about the impacts on Jupiter in the last half-decade or so"

No increase in frequency; we're simply getting better at detecting them.

"There have been tantalizing hints that there may be a mini solar system moving into our Sol system, but I couldn't find any serious corroboration."

That's because it isn't true. The star predicted to come very close to us, an orange dwarf with the designation Gliese 710, presently about 64 light years away, will come within 53,000 to 71,000 AU (over a light year) in around a million and a half years time. At that time it probably will disturb the Oort cloud, resulting in an increase in impacts in the Solar System afterwards, but that is a long way off: more than 1.4 million years.

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 5:05:27 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 19, 2013 5:05:49 PM PST
Marilyn,

"...and asteroid impacts seem to be happening more frequently in our solar system"
And your statistical proof of this is???? (fringe make believe site references don't count, either).

And knowing how little you know about astronomy OR mathematics, you're statement means absolutely nothing. Can you quote the number of sporadic meteors you can see? Can you quote how much material rains down on Earth daily? Did you even know that the number of meteors you can see at night varies by the time of year (and this is NOT from meteor showers).

And do you know how to evaluate randomness? You do know that it is possible to roll five 6's in a row on a dice, right? Do you know the odds of a baseball sized meteor hitting the earth? Bus-sized meteor? ANY size meteor probability??

No, I thought not.

Posted on Feb 21, 2013 6:53:37 AM PST
well, I can fully accept the statement that impacts SEEM to happen more frequently (presumably more frequently now than in the past, say the 1950s).
Improved observation equipment, increasing interest (thus more people looking for the darn things), better understanding what to look for, all will lead to an increase in the number of sightings.
And I'd not at all be surprised if meteoroid impacts, like solar storms, sunspots, comets, and so many other things in the solar system) come and go in periods of increased intensity. Maybe there's a "cloud" of little rocks orbiting the sun on some trajectory that every few decades to centuries brings it close enough to a planet to cause an increased chance of impact. They'd be too small for our telescopes too see, won't have enough mass to influence planetary orbits enough to be detectable, etc.

Posted on Feb 21, 2013 7:15:58 AM PST
JTW,

Yes, those are good points. At least YOU understand astronomy.

I'm probably reacting more to Marilyn posting in another thread this same information PLUS that perhaps our solar system is interacting with an asteroid belt from another star system located 25-100 light years away. And that she's heard that "there is a mini solar system currently colliding with ours, best seen from the Southern Hemisphere." UGH!! No, Double-UGH!!

Posted on Feb 21, 2013 3:38:55 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 23, 2013 3:26:51 PM PST
J. T. Wenting -

Another idea being floated, which is found in ancient writings, is that our galaxy rotates around the black hole in the center of the galaxy. And that every 26,000 years is called the Great Cycle or the Great Year. And as our solar system rotates around or thru our galaxy in a Great Cycle we occasionally hit rough-patches, where asteroids/meteors are more common:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=169748
OUR PLANET'S MYSTERIOUS 26,000 YEAR CYCLE

Forbidden History: Prehistoric Technologies, Extraterrestrial Intervention, and the Suppressed Origins of Civilization

Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race

Forbidden Archeology's Impact: How a Controversial New Book Shocked the Scientific Community and Became an Underground Classic

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 21, 2013 4:02:48 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 21, 2013 4:16:18 PM PST
M. Helsdon says:
"Another idea being floated, which is found in ancient writings, is that our galaxy rotates around the black hole in the center of the galaxy. And that every 26,000 years is called the Great Cycle or the Great Year. And as our solar system rotates around or thru our galaxy in a Great Cycle we occasionally hit rough-patches, where asteroids/meteors are more common"

It actually takes about 225-250 million years for the Solar System to complete one orbit around the Galaxy, and during that time the Sun is bobbing up and down through the plane of the galaxy every few million years; we're presently moving 'north'. This movement doesn't correlate with any significant cycle of extinction events, and given that the whole galaxy is generally rotating there are no regular "rough-patches".

Your "26,000 years" refers to a full cycle of precession of the Earth's axis. Now this, combined with other, longer cycles *may* have an effect on Earth, the Milankovitch cycles, which *may* have an effect on Earth's climate, but it has nothing to do with the galaxy or the incidence of impacts.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 21, 2013 6:31:18 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
"Another idea being floated"

Passed another cognitive turd into the existing cesspool, eh?

"which is found in ancient writings"

NAME two. Or even ONE.

"is that our galaxy rotates around the black hole in the center of the galaxy"

LOL. What an inane comment to make.

Please! Do another one! :D

Posted on Feb 22, 2013 11:05:13 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 22, 2013 11:07:36 AM PST
Forbidden History: Prehistoric Technologies, Extraterrestrial Intervention, and the Suppressed Origins of Civilization
Page 42
"LaViolette builds a scientific and mythological foundation for cataclysm as a cyclical event, a recurrence of galactic core explosions in 26,000 year cycles - a period that related to the precession of the equinoxes. This is the duration of one Great Year, recognized by the ancient Greeks, Zorastrians, and Chinese. Hindu scriptures recognize the same cycle, a succession of declining and advancing ages that seem to relate to our solar system's orbit around the galactic core."

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/What-To-Do-in-an-Asteroid-Emergency-192327581.html?utm_source=airandspacenewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=201302-airspace
WHAT TO DO IN AN ASTEROID EMERGENCY
A U.N. Action Team is tackling the problem, after Russia's asteroid explosion last week. Hope they aren't counting on any help from the U.S. ...

http://www.space.com/6829-military-hush-incoming-space-rocks-classified.html
(2009) SPACE ROCKS THAT EXPLODE IN THE ATMOSPHERE ARE NOW CLASSIFIED

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2013 11:44:35 AM PST
M. Helsdon says:
"LaViolette builds a scientific and mythological foundation for cataclysm as a cyclical event, a recurrence of galactic core explosions in 26,000 year cycles - a period that related to the precession of the equinoxes. This is the duration of one Great Year, recognized by the ancient Greeks, Zorastrians, and Chinese. Hindu scriptures recognize the same cycle, a succession of declining and advancing ages that seem to relate to our solar system's orbit around the galactic core."

Pseudoscience - the precession of the Earth's axis has nothing to do with the galactic center, and is a very tiny fraction of the time it takes the Solar System to orbit the galaxy. The Earth has only made about two orbits of the galaxy since the evolution of multicellular life.

"(2009) SPACE ROCKS THAT EXPLODE IN THE ATMOSPHERE ARE NOW CLASSIFIED"

Because the information gives out the sensitivity of the sensors.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2013 4:57:29 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
You still haven't NAMED even one of those "ancient sources".

Come on, Granny, you can do it!

Posted on Feb 23, 2013 3:17:49 PM PST
http://www.space.com/19933-asteroid-deflection-mission-aida-didymos.html

ASTEROID-SMASHING MISSION PICKS SPACE ROCK TARGET
"The joint European/U.S. Asteroid Impact and Deflection Assessment mission, or AIDA, will work to intercept (asteroid) Didymos in 2022, when the space rock is about 6.8 million miles from Earth, ESA officials have announced."

Posted on Feb 24, 2013 9:54:00 AM PST
http://news.yahoo.com/suitcase-size-satellite-launching-monday-hunt-asteroids-133212374.html

CANADA SET TO LAUNCH SUITCASE-SIZE SATELLITE TO HUNT ASTEROIDS
Launching from India Monday, it will be the first spacecraft specifically designed to search for large asteroids and monitor space junk in the solar system.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 11:05:10 AM PST
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0227/US-scientists-seek-to-prevent-another-meteor-explosion?nav=87-frontpage-mostViewed

NASA AND AIR FORCE TEAM UP TO DEVELOP PLANS TO PREPARE FOR FUTURE METEOR STRIKES LIKE THE ONE IN RUSSIA RECENTLY
"A new Memorandum of Agreement between the Air, Space and Cyberspace Operations Directorate of the Air Force Space Command and NASA's Science Mission Directorate was signed on January 18, 2013. It spells out the specifics for the public release of meteor data from sources such as high-flying hush-hush U.S. Government space sensors."

So space rocks that enter our atmosphere aren't all classified now?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 4:54:47 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
"So space rocks that enter our atmosphere aren't all classified now?"

Asked and answered again in a thread in Aliens. Just as it was here as well, I imagine.

Not reading so well these days?

Posted on Mar 2, 2013 12:53:04 PM PST
Stop the asteroid? And ruin the entire plot of "Lucifer's Hammer"? Blasphemy!

I'm assuming the poster on this thread is a different Marilyn Martin from the one who sang "Night Moves" back in the 1980s ...
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