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Initial post: May 5, 2012 1:24:24 AM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
Chat about Firefly and Serenity is welcome here!

In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2012 2:08:31 AM PDT
K. Stacey says:
There's a browncoat in everyone. :)

~K. Stacey
"Blue, blue, blue, blue, red. Now what does that mean?"

Posted on May 5, 2012 7:26:32 AM PDT
Lord Baal says:
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Posted on May 5, 2012 9:28:48 AM PDT
Did you see the episode of "Chuck" with Summer Glau in it?

Posted on May 5, 2012 10:54:11 AM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
Favorite episode? My vote is for "Trash" [never aired] with "Heart of Gold" a close second.

Posted on May 5, 2012 12:00:15 PM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
Too be honest I didn't care for the butt shot. Seeing how much Fillion has chunked up in Castle makes it worse.

War Stories now there's a good episode.

In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2012 12:38:12 PM PDT
K. Stacey says:
"Out of Gas" is my favorite. We get to see the backstory of everyone, and how they all came together. Quite awesome.

~K. Stacey
"Blue, blue, blue, blue, red. Now what does that mean?"

Posted on May 5, 2012 12:54:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 5, 2012 1:16:10 PM PDT
Ada Davis says:
Mysteries:
We never got to see Book's back story. Why did his ID get instant service on an Alliance ship, which then let Serenity go without a hassle? What/who was he before he became "Book"?

Why did the thugs who were chasing River have blue hands?

In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2012 1:12:06 PM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
@ Ada Davis: Indeed, who was this "Shepard"... Hints were sprinkled throughout the series, and it seems like that was a life that he was more than happy to put behind him.

Posted on May 5, 2012 4:08:44 PM PDT
Lord Baal says:
If you want some history on Shepard Book there's a graphic novel Serenity: The Shepherd's Tale it's by Zack & Joss Whedon but has some really mixed revues. Seems that the question may be more interesting than the answer.

Posted on May 5, 2012 4:18:05 PM PDT
Stant Litore says:
"We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty." - Mal

When you're in the black, hit the gas and grit your teeth, and don't slow down. I love that series.

Stant Litore
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Posted on May 6, 2012 5:46:41 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 9:36:22 AM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
Just some thoughts:

The "Kaylee" and "Inara" characters had multiple chances to shine in the series, and the movie. In some ways they were innovative & special. There was nothing 'stock' about them. The same goes for the contributions of the actresses.

Regarding Summer Glau as River Tam, I was happy with the pace of her character development. I think that Joss got it right: that since the source of her 'superpowers' is her own (unwillingly manipulated and surgically modified) mind, it would take _a while_ to even begin to harness that. There is nothing about her story that isn't traumatic in the most intimate of way. Expecting her to just 'pop!' into action with awesome powers-of-stunt is inconsistent with the sort of story that we've come expect Joss Whedon et al., IMHO.

OTOH, that doesn't mean that a 'River Tam-esque' character couldn't be developed for another scenario... Could be fun, if skillfully done.

And what was this series about actually? It has been written that _Buffy_ was an exploration of growing up, _Angel_ was about getting a job and that _Firefly_ was about relationships, life commitments, etc. We see a lot of that in Firefly.

The point is, the series actually was _about_ something other than hi-tech wish-fullfilment and superpowers. Sure, some of those things were in there, but only to underscore their irrelevance to the bigger story of humans trying to live together, or at least coexist.

Cheers!

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 11:48:03 AM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
I think that there was plenty of action. It wasn't nearly as self-indulgent as Now & Again which didn't seem to get the point that if you point that if you're making a story about a guy in an indestructible body you should some action and not waste an entire episode about the printed word disappearing from the earth.

Posted on May 6, 2012 12:14:25 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 6, 2012 10:46:54 PM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
Yes, there was plenty of action. Gratuitous action? Not so much. Joss moved that storyline a-l-o-n-g... He didn't waste time showing off every setting on a shiny new raygun.

Actually, allow me to amend that statement. There was a famous showdown in which a certain "big guy" tries to hard-sell Mal' on his favorite gun "Vera"... And there was a point to that.

Posted on May 6, 2012 9:49:00 PM PDT
OG InfamousR says:
Would everyone hate me if I said I thought Firefly was "cute", but I didn't really think it was SciFi? Sure it had lots of Fi, but not much Sci.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 10:14:59 PM PDT
K. Stacey says:
Yes, we would. ;)

True Scifi is not about the actual science that goes into the story (as weird as it sounds) but more along the lines of interpersonal and human relationships....admittedly, while set in a futuristic setting. To which end, I believe Firefly came along well.

~K. Stacey
"Blue, blue, blue, blue, red. Now what does that mean?"

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 10:49:26 PM PDT
D. J. Bowler says:
@ Old Rocker: Not at all! :) But what would a SCI-heavy version of Firefly look like?

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 9:48:44 AM PDT
Ada Davis says:
If Firefly doesn't rate as SF, what DO you think is SF?

If Firefly is a Space Western, then Star Wars is a Space Fantasy. Stargate, B5, Farscape, Dr Who?
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