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The Real Upcoming Space Wars?


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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2012 8:19:11 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Hey, Glenn, how you doing?

I believe MH was the actual founder, since he is the original alien-human hybrid here. ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2012 9:02:12 PM PST
TO: Ronald Craig

RE: "Thanks for documenting that, Walter."

You're welcome.

RE: "I'll have to check out that museum one of these days."

Yeah, you'll dig it. Plan on spending all day there, though. You'll need that much time to see and savor everything. Also, it's best to go during the warmer months because they have a lot of outdoor displays (Atlas ICBM and SR-71 Blackbird, to name just two), as well.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2012 9:09:30 PM PST
TO: Glenn R. Smith

RE: "I've always wanted to go there. I won't get to but... "

Well, perhaps there are similar museums that are closer to where you live; the Air & Space Museum in D.C. or the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, to name two. The following is a link to a Wikipedia listing of all of the aerospace museums in the world - don't worry, the U.S. ones are further broken down by states:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aerospace_museums

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 6:36:47 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Thanks, Walter!

(But when are these warmer months of which you speak? It was in the 50s yesterday over here east of Portsmouth and it's supposed to get up in the 60s today! LOL)

Posted on Jan 31, 2012 8:36:17 AM PST
Walter -

I corrected the URL after it was posted, but the version with the misspelling went to the e-mails.

I just thought that it was interesting that the Air Force museum was displaying Cold War satellites. Most "space" museums are NASA and the Smithsonian.

If you visit, please let me know what you thought.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 8:57:12 AM PST
TO: Ronald Craig

RE: "But when are these warmer months of which you speak?"

Good point! At least where I live (and within, say, a 500-mile (805-km) radius), we are experiencing a statistical anomaly.

RE: "...over here east of Portsmouth..."

I thought you were in Japan.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 9:03:52 AM PST
TO: Marilyn Martin

RE: "Most "space" museums are NASA and the Smithsonian."

No, there are many, many "space" museums. The following is a link to a list of all the aerospace museums in the world, with the ones in the U.S. further broken down by states:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aerospace_museums

RE: "If you visit, please let me know what you thought."

OK.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 10:08:12 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
"I corrected the URL after it was posted, but the version with the misspelling went to the e-mails."

The point, though, is that if you would just simply learn to copy & paste URLs, there wouldn't be any "misspellings".

Of course, posting faulty URLs is completely in line with the other misinformation you spread.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 10:08:57 AM PST
Ronald Craig says:
"I thought you were in Japan."

I was. ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 11:02:29 AM PST
Walter -

Nice list - Thanks!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 11:49:54 AM PST
TO: Marilyn Martin

RE: "Nice list - Thanks!"

You're very welcome.

Posted on Jan 31, 2012 11:51:52 AM PST
TO: Everyone

Here's a link to pictures of the spy satellites being displayed at the Air Force Museum:

http://www.space.com/12997-photos-declassified-spy-satellite-pictures.html

Posted on Jan 31, 2012 12:28:33 PM PST
Walter -

Thanks for the link. Those were larger than I expected. Do you know if they recovered these when they crashed - or if these are just mock-ups that never went to orbit?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 1:06:02 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Because they would still look pretty good after going through reentry. LOL

D'uh.

Posted on Jan 31, 2012 1:12:09 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 1:57:53 PM PST
Ronald Craig says:
Spin us some "speculation" why don't you, Marilyn? LOL

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 1:58:39 PM PST
TO: Marilyn Martin

RE: "Do you know if they recovered these when they crashed - or if these are just mock-ups that never went to orbit?"

I think that the static displays of the spy satellites are probably mock-ups or recreations. Just from their shapes you can see that they weren't designed for re-entry; their irregular geometries would have caused them to tumble, come apart, and be incinerated. However, some early satellites did eject film cannisters that were designed for re-entry and subsequent mid-air capture by a transport plane (usually a C-130 Hercules) that towed a long (and wide) net-like device.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2012 2:54:07 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 31, 2012 2:54:47 PM PST
Now wait RC. As we all know, Marilyn is now a psychic and can tell the future. She just predicted that Dewey would defeat Truman and Nixon would beat Kennedy by a landslide.

I'll take Marilyn and bathhouses for $600.00 Alex.

And the answer is.....Positive? Upbeat? Warm? and Caring?

What are four normal human attributes that Marilyn will never possess.

Correct!!!

Posted on Jan 31, 2012 8:38:21 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 31, 2012 8:38:49 PM PST
Thanks for the list, Walter!

I always try to visit the various space and/or aircraft exhibits whenever I travel someplace. My family has been dragged to a bunch of them. Many years ago I made them all go to the Imperial War Museum when we visited London. They had a V-1 and a V-2 rocket there!

The last one I went to was the San Diego Air & Space Museum. You all might remember my posting a year and a half ago on some of the other things I went to while there, like that "Science of Aliens" exhibit==> http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-forum/aliens/ref=cm_cd_search_res_ti?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1M0WJNFU1QN90&cdMsgNo=67&cdPage=3&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx237OGIKNUPBPN&cdMsgID=Mx4PG13MUVLC1W#Mx4PG13MUVLC1W

It's the 30th anniversary of the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum in NY City this year, and Space Shuttle Enterprise is supposed to arrive in the Spring or Summer. I'm definitely going for a re-visit once it's there.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2012 7:29:40 AM PST
Thanks, Walter.

That was also interesting about a C-130 Hercules towing a net to capture the film ejected by a spy satellite.

I guess we'll never know how many times the C-130 "missed" an ejected parcel. Although it is similar to Iran recently downing one of our drones and claiming they'd decoded it. Same spy missions - different century.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2012 7:44:30 AM PST
M. Helsdon says:
"I guess we'll never know how many times the C-130 "missed" an ejected parcel."

As the re-entry packets were usually captured in controlled airspace there was relatively little danger of enemies obtaining the ejected film. Military and intelligence drones in contrast fly outside controlled airspace and into unfriendly territory.

Posted on Feb 1, 2012 8:41:20 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 1, 2012 8:42:19 AM PST
New developments using aircraft and satellites:

http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/01/darpa-pays-hacker-to-develop-50-spy.html#more
DARPA PAYS A HACKER TO DEVELOP $50 COMPUTERS TO BE DROPPED BY DRONES

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/31/iran-launches-spanish-tv-channel
IRAN LAUNCHES A TV CHANNEL AIMED AT MEXICO AND S. AMERICA
"The new channel will limit the ground for supremacy of dominance seekers," according to Ahmadinejad.

Posted on Feb 1, 2012 8:42:36 AM PST
MH,

Unless the Iranians get their psychics to chant into the ether 'drop your package now...drop your package now...' ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2012 10:30:20 AM PST
M. Helsdon says:
Bob,

"Unless the Iranians get their psychics to chant into the ether 'drop your package now...drop your package now...'"

The days of dropping film canister 'buckets' from satellites are long long gone... Since the mid-80s, IMINT has been available from a number of commercial vendors.

Maybe those Iranian psychics are at war with Marilyn's Remote Viewers, causing them to see the alien mines on the Moon she goes on about? 9-)

"IRAN LAUNCHES A TV CHANNEL AIMED AT MEXICO AND S. AMERICA"

The IRIB already has several international news television channels and six satellite television channels. They even broadcast in... English.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2012 10:45:33 AM PST
TO: Marilyn Martin

RE: "I guess we'll never know how many times the C-130 "missed" an ejected parcel."

I would assume that the miss rate was fairly low once the pilots got the hang of it. In any case, the captures were all over water (the Pacific Ocean), so if a cannister was missed, the planes carried swimmers who could jump into the water and attach a cable to the cannister so the it could be lifted by a helicopter. The following is a link to an article about the unit that did the film cannister capturing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6594th_Test_Group

RE: "Same spy missions - different century."

Nations have always had some kind of intelligence-gathering activity going on.
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