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Initial post: Nov 5, 2012 9:55:13 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 5, 2012 9:55:52 AM PST
Are zombies possible? Any examples in nature? Any way for the spinal cord to stay alive after the brain is dead, allowing the near corpse to move to try to eat flesh? But how does the zombie digest the flesh and distribute the nutrients without a heart beat??

Posted on Nov 5, 2012 11:57:59 AM PST
Rev. Otter says:
not as presented, not as presented, possibly but not as presented, and magic.

/working on my PhD in zombology

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2012 12:40:26 PM PST
M. Helsdon says:
"Are zombies possible? Any examples in nature?"

Whilst not the 'arrrgh! Eat brains!' variety there are a number of parasitic organisms that induce a zombified state in the host: ants infected with the Ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus, ants hosting a Phorid fly larvae, spiders hosting a Hymenoepimecis argyraphaga wasp larvae, ducks infected with Acanthocephala, and the Rabies virus...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2012 4:09:30 PM PST
Jeff Marzano says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2012 5:07:08 PM PST
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Bill M. says:
>>Are zombies possible?

It depends on how you define "zombie". If one of the requirements is they're supposed to be able to move indefinitely, with an immortal animation of sorts even after you hack at them and what not, then my guess would be no, since the energy (ATP) to do that would have to keep coming from somewhere. In some movies there's the idea of locking a zombie into a box, and opening it 100 year later to see the zombie still animated and hungry for brains. But that doesn't really make any sense in light of how animals get their energy.

If however by "zombie" you mean a paralyzed, vegetative sort of state a la voodoo rituals, the answer is yes. Tetraodontidae, the toxin of the puffer fish, can do that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraodontidae#Poisoning

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2012 8:25:46 PM PST
Jeff: "There's more than just science going on here though. The witch doctors use black magic also."

I have known Christians to use black magic. That is why you have to be very careful and ethical when you use prayer.

Posted on Nov 6, 2012 7:56:48 AM PST
Brian Curtis says:
Are zombies possible?

Sure, but it takes a 48-hour reality-TV marathon.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012 10:19:47 AM PST
D. Vicks says:
Romero doesn't pay them much.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 2:46:19 PM PST
Jeff Marzano says:
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Posted on Nov 9, 2012 8:52:29 AM PST
Omnireader says:
I don't understand why there is even a question mark here.

We have all seen the Fox News coverage of the Presidential election and the stunned zombies in it's studios. Note: they are still there, desperately seeking a brain.

Posted on Apr 27, 2013 10:48:01 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2013 12:47:34 PM PDT
You clearly have one essential ingredient for self-education, namely a lively inquisitiveness.

The next essential ingredient is to properly direct your inquisitiveness along productive lines of inquiry. These are generally not found in movie themes.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2013 12:53:03 PM PDT
jpl says:
®_0 says:

Are zombies possible? Any examples in nature? Any way for the spinal cord to stay alive after the brain is dead, allowing the near corpse to move to try to eat flesh? But how does the zombie digest the flesh and distribute the nutrients without a heart beat??

jpl: No doubt about the fact that zombies exist. I killed three of them yesterday and one of them so far today. Keep a close eye out. They're getting smarter.

Posted on Apr 27, 2013 4:08:16 PM PDT
JOHN DOE says:
only on amazon forums

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2013 4:54:04 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
-->I have known Christians to use black magic. That is why you have to be very careful and ethical when you use prayer.

Whoa kate, what have you been knitting lately?

Posted on Apr 27, 2013 5:26:40 PM PDT
I've heard tell of a story about a man who came back to life after three whole days.
If true, wouldn't that make him a Zombie?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2013 5:55:20 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
Certainly hungry.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2013 5:57:52 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 27, 2013 9:04:05 PM PDT
"Are zombies possible?"

>>JGC: Not as claimed. However, there are a number of toxins, tetrodotoxin in particular, that can induce a catatonic, death-like state. Tetrodotoxin is usually associated with the Japanese puffer fish, or fugu, but is also produced by many other reef fish which are common in the Caribbean (not to mention the California newt). It seems plausible that voodoo practitioners use this toxicity, probably in combination with other "natural" toxins to "kill" their victims, then "bring them back to life" (for example, google "Clairvius Narcisse"). In Haitian folklore, the zombie does not "eat flesh", but is simply a slave to the sorcerer that "zombified" him/her. The eating of flesh is a Hollywood add-on.

Posted on Apr 27, 2013 6:34:54 PM PDT
Hmmm... this thread came back to life...

So, could Jesus be considered the first zombie? Somehow makes him seem kinda kewl now.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2013 9:43:25 AM PDT
actually Lazarus came back to life before Jesus, so Jesus was the second zombie.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2013 10:35:17 AM PDT
Oh well, that must be way they didn't teach me that in sunday school, since he wasn't the first.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2013 10:39:23 AM PDT
There may have been other reasons.......

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2013 12:41:44 PM PDT
J. Potter says:
The mytheme of a resurrected god, is nothing new, even a crowded field if you compile known examples from around the world.
Resurrection of mortals is also an ancient theme, predating christianity by centuries in known literature, and surely going back to the dawn of consciousness, as it is human to want to reverse death. Death is a primal fear.

Greeks contributed to christianity the meme that an eternal soul animated men, and that this soul lived on when the body died. Depending on who you ask, christ was a soul on earth, or a resurrected body and soul. While it's fun to wheedle xtians by alleging christ was a zombie, what makes zombies abhorrent is that they are resurrected, soulless bodies, animated by magic or witchcraft (or the modern magic of science gone wrong). In xtian tradition, flesh is corrupted by sin; zombies are flesh, doubly corrupted.

Another interesting implication of the xtian view, is that mind and soul are (apparently) the same.

Medical science resurrects people (at least in a clinical sense) all the time. People fall into comas and are kept from death, and live artificially until they can rise again. Sometimes, these "resurrectees" are very different people; but I haven't heard of any that regained consciousness that were truly mindless (much less soulless).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_god
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dying_or_rising_deities

Posted on Apr 28, 2013 4:38:29 PM PDT
Jeff Marzano says:
If you do an internet search on a mad scientist by the name of Dr. Cameron and his MK Ultra project you will find that he had a room full of people whose brains he had destroyed in various ways. They were kept in a section of his facility called the zombie room.

Hypnosis. Drugs. Sleep and sensory deprivation. Probably partial lobotomies.

All in the name of science.

Posted on Apr 28, 2013 4:40:23 PM PDT
<<<If you do an internet search on a mad scientist by the name of Dr. Cameron and his MK Ultra project you will find that he had a room full of people whose brains he had destroyed in various ways>>>
look what the MKUltra project did to Patty Hearst.
She was brainwashed into robbing banks and taking bit parts in John Waters' films.
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