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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:51:43 AM PDT
Doctor says:
Why try to cover up the problems? What are they afraid of!

Isn't it censorship!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:51:57 AM PDT
A customer says:
Doctor - "What are you afraid of! "

Theocracy. The same as the people who wrote the Constitution.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:52:27 AM PDT
ErikR says:
Dios mio! Why waste your time on someone who says this?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:52:33 AM PDT
Doc:

We're so touched by your solicitude for the theory of evolution, and your plan to educate high school students so they can improve it and solve its problems!

NOT!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:56:23 AM PDT
A customer says:
Doctor - "Why try to cover up the problems?"

No need to cover them up, just so long as the state does not engage in propaganda promoting the false idea that they exist in the false place. If the state were in churches selling the idea that there are problems with religious belief you'd be screaming the place down. Same if they sent Muslim and Hindu teachers into schools to explain the problems with Christianity. Now apply the objections you would have and factor in the fact that you are actually lying about the problems existing in the first place.

Do you want us in your churches having first set that standard of behaviour? I assure you I don't have to keep to my promise not to think in your churches if you don't hold up your end of the deal.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 8:58:24 AM PDT
A customer says:
ErikR - "Why waste your time on someone who says this?"

To sharpen our invective and ensure that his isn't the first and only post someone sees when they log onto the thread.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 9:28:01 AM PDT
ErikR says:
point taken

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:07:29 AM PDT
Doctor says:
Nope

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:10:12 AM PDT
Doctor says:
They did the same to Galileo!

Now the religious elite are doing ther same thing to ID!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:13:29 AM PDT
Doc:

Your analogy with Galileo is absurd. Galileo was put under house arrest for the remainder of his life, and forbidden to meet with anyone or speak or publish anything without prior permission from the Church.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:21:13 AM PDT
It is IDiocy that is ruled by fear that evolutionary theory will undermine their unexamined and idiotic religious beliefs in biblical inerrancy.

Regards

John

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:21:46 AM PDT
Doctor says:
AF: You need to keep on the subject!

How is this label in a book "altering" anything?

How is this label "teaching" anything other than critical thinking?

You need to start thinking for yourself!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:24:17 AM PDT
Doctor says "Nope" to arpard's point that relativity theory was a theory of Gravitation. What do you mean? That relativity theory was not a theory of gravitation?

As Pauline Hanson, a particularly thick Australian right wind politician always used to say (adopt a whiney voice here in a strong Australian accent) "Please explain".

Regards

John

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:29:27 AM PDT
Doctor wrote

"Exactly, that is why the doctrine of creation is more probable than particles to people!"

No Doc, the second one has evidence, the first has none at all.

Tell me, since you believe in creation,
1. When did it happen
2. Where did it happen
3. Why did it happen
4. How did it happen

Zero evidence. And you want us to throw out a science that is over 150 years old with many thousands of supportive and corroborative evidence for a theory with no evidence at all. You must be joking.

Regards

John

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:29:47 AM PDT
Doc:

Unless you can convince the courts that your attempts to "improve" the teaching of evolution in public schools is not motivated by religious considerations, you're always going to lose the argument.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:31:40 AM PDT
JDC:

Perhaps Doc would like to put a sticker in high school physics textbooks stating that relativity is "only a theory", that it "has gaps", and oh by the way Einstein was a godless Jew.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:31:43 AM PDT
Doc wrote

"encouraging students to think critically and pointing out some problems with evolution?"

What are the problems with evolution Doc?

Regards

John

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:32:53 AM PDT
JDC:

One of the problems with evolution that is becoming increasingly apparent to me is that it has given rise to posters like Doc.

:)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:35:32 AM PDT
Doctor says:
Exactly, most were Christians and knew that when church and state
became one, people died!

If you wanted to create a theocracy in a country that was founded
on the priniple of individual liberty, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, and a government denied the ability to curtail the free excerise religion?

How would you do that?

Here is a start in understanding.
http://www.marxist.com/science-old/dialecticalmaterialism.html

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:36:35 AM PDT
Doctor says:
Still evading the issue?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:40:17 AM PDT
Doctor says:
Elliott,

This is what we are talking about;

"This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be
approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered."

It is that simple, try to focus on the issue!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 11:53:12 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 12:22:34 PM PDT
Brian Curtis says:
That label would be incorrect, since evolution is an observed fact accompanied by an explanatory theory.

It also promotes the false impression that "theory" is equivalent to "guess unsupported by any evidence," which again does a disservice to science students.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 12:53:28 PM PDT
Doctor

Sorry to tell you but Evolution is a fact of science. There are multiple theories to explain how it works, from theistic evolution on downwards, some theories better than others. One of the better theories with more experimental and observational evidence on its side is the modern synthesis, otherwise known as neo-Darwinianism. This is not the end of the matter, however. New theories of evolution are being developed all the time, but this does not alter the fact that evolution is a fact.

Regards

John

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 19, 2011 12:55:29 PM PDT
Doc:

If you say so, Doc. Whatever you say. Arguing with you is pointless. Goodbye.
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