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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 1:17:12 PM PDT
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 1:31:46 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
Panthor, what exactly is that, some kind of morse code?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 2:39:44 PM PDT
More lyrics!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 2:40:38 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
Panthor, I'm simply not following you. Could you be a little less cryptic?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 2:43:10 PM PDT
Yes.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 6:34:48 PM PDT
00110

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 6:52:50 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
What is going on here?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 8:08:43 PM PDT
Taps says:
In my personal experience, the "key" to happiness is finding something you are passionate about and pursuing it regardless of the challenges. Happiness stems from achieving the goals you set out to achieve, or doing things you set out to do. If you can achieve your goals or do what you set out to do, you will feel in control and naturally, that result in the state of mind known as happiness. You just have to remember to set yourself another challenge to overcome and go through the same process over again; otherwise, boredom will be quick to set in.

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2010 8:11:49 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
If you're looking for personality happiness I agree, and, after all, that's about the highest that most people strive for. At the same time, persistence can lead to an awakening to the joy that underlies the whole of life, and is much, much more than mere happiness. There's a paragraph in the Agni Yoga books that asks, "If a very simple man asks what is the good of the teachings, tell him they are for his happiness. The realization will come later." Then there is no boredom, because realization is the same as enlightenment and that is the source of joy.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 5:13:40 AM PDT
well- I more or less agree with this. The one distintion I would make, is based on Medicine Teaching. Once you have aligned yourself with your higher self-purpose... you do not need to pursue, ie chase after things. You will find that they start to land on your doorstep. Each of us has our own personal PO box that the universe delivers direct. So I am not sure I would say it is about pursuit and challenges. Line yourself up with what you should truly be doing. Allow it to happen, embrace it fully, express gratitude, give back, and enjoy Life as it unfolds.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 6:08:11 AM PDT
Yes...and no. If you make doing something the source of happiness, you will always need to be doing something to feel happy. Happiness becomes performance-based and you will will not be able to peaceful when you are not busy. I believe the secret lies in what we think about what we are doing, not the doing per se: what we think when we are busy and what we think when we are not doing anything. Thought creates feelings, not actions. BobThink Right, Feel Right: The Building Block Guide for Happiness and Emotional Well-being

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 7:31:10 AM PDT
+8753

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 10:30:58 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
I have learned that, as "they" say, the "universe" will take care of us if we surrender ourselves to it. On the other hand, it's action and effort that counts and not so much success. If we put the effort and intention into whatever we do we will be serving humanity, and we, ourselves, are part of humanity.

I have I have to agree with your final statement, of "Allow it to happen, embrace it fully, express gratitude, give back, and enjoy Life as it unfolds. " I can't think of a better, more productive way to live.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 10:32:09 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
I think feelings, mixed with thought, creates emotions, but pure thought will result in action. So we're a bit in opposition on this one, Robert.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 11:18:08 AM PDT
Interesting...my sense of this is that feelings, like happiness, elation, joy, peacefulness, fear, anger, worry arise out of our thoughts and perceptions about things, not from things as such. Engaging in actions that we think positively about evokes pleasant feelings and emotions and, ...sitting still and engaging these positive thoughts without doing anything else will also generate positive feelings and emotions. Emotions are a product of our thoughts and the visceral sensations these thoughts evoke. When we think happy, we will feel happy; when we think sad we will feel sad. The feeling of happiness requires cortical appraisal (i.e.. thought) for the feeling to be initiated as well as noticed. I love these discussions, and because I think this way about them, I feel good about having them. Kind regards, Bob

Posted on Jun 13, 2010 11:26:17 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
Oh, I agree, Bob, that emotions are a product of our thoughts. I think we're saying the same thing in different ways. I differentiate feelings and emotions. For me, feelings are the what we contact with the five senses, and which must be mixed with thought to create emotions. So you're using the words "feeling" and "emotion" interchangeably. I understand.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 11:51:11 AM PDT
Hi Nancy
Thank you for that very tidy and useful clarification. Taking this discussion a step further re. the key to happiness: the important conclusion for me is that we can deepen happiness by regularly invoking and enlarging upon the thoughts that beget the positive emotions associated with happiness. In this respect, the key to happiness is also the key to emotional wellness and improved mental health. Bob

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2010 11:57:55 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
There are probably many schools of thought on the subject of spiritual well-being and whether emotions are detrimental to that well-being. I go along with the Dalai Lama, who teaches detachment from the emotional nature. Since I've been working on that detachment, for many years, I've found myself able to contact the underlying joy, which is not an emotion but a soul quality. But it's whatever works for each of us that counts. For some, enhancing the emotional nature may be exactly the plan for this incarnation. I do agree that "improved mental health" is a major key to what you would call "happiness" and I would call joy. I do think we're agreeing here, just using different language.

Posted on Jun 15, 2010 4:01:15 PM PDT
Truth and Love.

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 8:50:56 AM PDT
"Happiness is love of something outside of self! It may never be obtained, may never be known by loving only things within self or self's own domain!" ~ec

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 10:26:57 AM PDT
With respect, my experience with happiness suggests that nothing could be further from the truth. Happiness is produced from within the self and is enhanced by steadfastly maintaining a loving relationship with self. Bob

Posted on Jun 17, 2010 10:27:11 AM PDT
With respect, my experience with happiness suggests that nothing could be further from the truth. Happiness is produced from within the self and is enhanced by steadfastly maintaining a loving relationship with self. Bob

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 10:55:19 AM PDT
In my truth self serving only brought me misery. My true source of happiness is service. I'm afraid I can not comment on your truth my friend.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 10:57:12 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
Douglas, that's the gist of the studies and meditations I do, that is, how to serve the world, from the lower kingdoms to the higher. That is, for me, the only true source of what some would call "happiness", but what I call JOY.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 1:59:33 PM PDT
that service to others.. is fulfilling to YOU though.. your happiness is inner from that..

external happiness.. as most people would mean it.. would be happiness ( not true) through "toys" " what other people think/ opinions".. superficial social feedback.. etc... looking for some confirmation or affirmation outside of yourself..

so yes- in essence.. you are finding internal.. or internally based happiness.. that satisfaction comes from within/ self-generated.

did that make sense?

and yes- being in service.. can be tremendously rewarding. or.. as I like to think.. and use horse metaphors.. we are social beings.. we need to tend the health and well-being of the herd.. in that.. we also make ourselves... our potential and survivability that much more.. like the japanese addage- the rising tide lifts all boats.

just remember.. there is a distinction between giving/ serving.. from a place of fullness.. versus giving as a form of self-sacrifice, or " penance" or.. self-aggrandizement... the "i'm so great for being altruistic" or.. " poor me i do so much for everyone else".. motivations..

I don't think this is the case.. just noting this for other readers to understand the distinction between service.. and self-service-sacrifice ( okay- I don't think there is a real term for this concept lol:)...

this is a nice discussion group.. respectful and engaged:)

be well and play nice

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