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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2012 10:29:44 AM PST
Ryan says:
"Can omniscient God, who
Knows the future, find
The omnipotence to
Change his future mind?"
-Karen Owens

Little people using big words doesn't change God.

How about this:

I, who am not omniscient,
who knows not the future,
and has only a finite mind,
can't expect to understand that
which is only understandable as God.

If God truly is omniscient, how asinine is it to try and break it down logically? Using logic is one of the most powerful things we as humans can do with our minds- but it's only ONE way of problem solving and perspective. When compared to the concept of God, logic becomes somewhat laughable. Similar to using science to prove there is no God. We're in a box, the earth, the moon, the universe- it's what we can see, taste, touch- so we think that by studying that which God has made- we can disprove his existence.

Also, I find that quote to not be very well thought out. It sounds clever, but upon further examination it doesn't really make much sense.

"Can an all knowing all powerful God use his all knowing and all power to change his decision in the future."

Seems like kind of a juvenile riddle, where the author/speaker thought of something kind of cool that makes you think for a moment- but after thinking about it, you realize the question basically contradicts itself- unless you want to get very abstract.

My thoughts on that.

Now I have a question for you. Do you believe in absolute truth?

Posted on Feb 9, 2012 11:42:32 AM PST
Eco-Humanist says:
From user29, " Howard storm was a atheist with all his heart.. He died. met God (he was shocked to!) got the truth and now he talks about it." hahahahaha lol lol

I just love people who spend time trying to prove things..... "He Died met God and now he talks about it" it is just too absurd to even acknowledge

Posted on Feb 9, 2012 1:56:06 PM PST
A.J.'s just mad because evolution left him behind. He prefers to believe in magical beings in the hopes that maybe some day GOD (all capital letters FTW!!!) will grant him the ability to get laid.

Posted on Feb 9, 2012 1:58:56 PM PST
"Howard storm was a atheist with all his heart.. He died. met God (he was shocked to!) got the truth and now he talks about it."

Because the brain doesn't ever hallucinate from lack of oxygen, and a person wouldn't subconsciously be aware of what is going on (dying) and see what they've been programmed to see?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2012 3:08:35 PM PST
"it is just too absurd to even acknowledge"

In which case, why did you?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2012 3:21:34 PM PST
Leeann

"A.J.: I'm well aware of the distinction as I said...I also said as an atheist I choose not to distinguish between gods...as they are all make believe to me."

In that context, even though your reference might include the God spoken of in the Bible, it is entirely valid to use a lowercase "g". It only requires a capital "G" when you are referring to a particular being.

I don't believe in unicorns, yet if I am talking about a unicorn in a kids' storybook I'll still call it Patrick (or whatever it's name is) rather than patrick.

Like I said, the determiner is the basic grammatical rule, NOT your religious beliefs, my religious beliefs or anyone else's religious beliefs.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2012 3:27:03 PM PST
Ryan

There's a very simple answers to Karen Owen's "question" - if God is omnipresent then He has no past or future, He simply "is", throughout all eternity. Which is why He identifies Himself as "I am" (in His permanent present).

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 11, 2012 10:20:46 AM PST
I think it begins with the understanding that we humans cannot fit God into our brain which weighs app. 3 lbs. and is 80% plus water. To know & understand God occurs at another level, in addition to the brain. this is the life changing experience that happened to people like St. Augustine, Martin Luther (who was a theology prof before his conversion experience), and C. S. Lewis who was on the faculties of both Oxford & Cambridge at the same time. And then they met Christ. Everything changed. I have had this experience (I was an avowed atheist at the time; successful in int'l business, an MBA, etc., not looking, not interested in religion) -- and I have met 31 other people who have had this experience. The experience let's you know what you do not know -- and never will know, until you stand before Him. Oh my.

Posted on Feb 11, 2012 5:04:35 PM PST
Have you stood before him in the literal sense or in a fantasy?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2012 9:34:40 AM PST
Hi M.G.

That was a REALLy nice post, IMO.

Posted on Feb 12, 2012 2:11:31 PM PST
Am I supposed to respect his opinion MORE because he says he's a successful businessman with an MBA??? He pads his credibility as much as A.J. does, as if that is to be taken into account for their opinions to actually matter more than others. And that's the problem right there; they want you to believe that they are better than you, more intelligent, more informed. HA!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2012 7:27:51 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
You can read my book, SYCHRONICITY OF THE WORD for FREE at authonomy.com
A more complete version will be available for kindle download very soon.
To see more of what I have to share, visit sychronicityoftheword.blogspot.com

I can state with authority that the WHOLE COMPLETE TRUTH is to be found in the Holy Bible, taken LITERALLY.
My book contains the trillions-to-one-by-moderate-odds EVIDENCE that this is so.
This being the case, there is NO room for sychronicity 'experts' to decieve people into believing that we 'create our own reality' as if we are gods. That was the first lie of the devil and he hasnt stopped trying to peddle it to us since.
The ONLY word with ANY power is the word of God. That being said, as can be clearly seen in my book, everything is language/speaks a language.
There is only one reality going on and that can be found in its entirity in the New Testament.
The new age attempting to hijack truth and corrupt it cannot prosper against a Holy Spirit that intercedes with the grace of God, and His Son, Jesus, declared, 'IT'S DONE'.
You are saved by GRACE, NOT works, so there is NO manipulation any1 should be attempting. You are NOT gods. Turn to Him and turn away from deception.
If you want the evidence, read my book.
You reading this means you must have an interest in the subject. GOOD, because I have the most mind blowing synchronistic TRUE story for you WITH the EVIDENCE.
Even if you dont, truth will stand, because it is true, therefore, all that is real.
Andrew Cox

Posted on Feb 13, 2012 7:50:52 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
God is perfect and the creator who's ways are AWESOME. Because one of His angels rebelled, THIS is the world in which we live. The devil wants to be God. That rebellion and all it entails was CREATED by satan. Did God make him that way? Nope. He did what he did of his own volition. God warned Adam and Eve, yet they didnt listen, and thus, death entered the world. If we were to be eternal, we'd be corrupted and nothing like we were made, with no reason to ever be so. Plus, if that rebellion exists from satan, it's something we'd have to know about so we would be decieved. And here we are learning just that, so when we are given back what the devil stole (the devil stole life and brought us destruction) and are ressurected as the body of Christ, we shall be in the image He created us and in the necessary knowledge.
If people have a problem with Revelation, then consider how extremely wicked the devil and his people are at heart if an all knowing merciful God who sent His Son to die for our transgressions shall deal with them as He will and that being just.
As for those blessed by God yet presently unaware of the truth, Jesus will gather ALL His flock, salvation is through Grace, not works, so all in hell will be where they belong.
The devil is in us, so trust in God and you will see. What will be will be and it will be just.

Posted on Feb 13, 2012 10:09:37 PM PST
Interesting blog.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2012 4:47:10 AM PST
Andrew

Just one point:

"This being the case, there is NO room for sychronicity 'experts' to decieve people into believing that we 'create our own reality' as if we are gods. That was the first lie of the devil and he hasnt stopped trying to peddle it to us since."

We can theoretically receive millions of "bits" (as in bits and bytes) of information (per minute) through our senses, but we can only PROCESS in hundreds of bits.

The idea that we can "create" our own reality doesn't actually mean that we can make our own "absolute reality".
On the contrary, it means that because we receive more information than our brains can cope with, we are forced to select a subset of all available EXTERNAL information from which, at a purely mental level, we use to form our perceptions of reality.

The reason people say that one person's perceptions of reality may be different from someone else's, yet both may be equally valid, therefore reflects the fact that we are all working with our own personal SUBSET of all available information.

Only extreme solipsists claim that we also make up the information which we base our perceptions on. For the rest of us, acknowledging that we filter down a wealth of incoming information is, at least in theory, evidence that there is indeed an external Reality, which we do not fully comprehend.

Posted on Feb 14, 2012 6:25:29 AM PST
Did you not even go look at his blog???

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2012 11:33:35 AM PST
J. Galligan says:
I've spent alot of time reading and researching. I've researched many subjects, alot of what some would call conspiracy theories and loads of new science, deep spirituality awareness and some religion. I find that many of the conspiracy theories, like vaccinations, the cause of war, the truth about religion, real world history, not taught in schools, aspartame, flouride, chemtrails, 911, etc., really, actually, these things have true substance, but the insanity in humanity does not want to face the truth. So as to God and religion, a very similar viewpoint. I was brought up catholic, but never did understand all of the sacrificial, ritualistic crap. I mean isn't that the behavior of a cult? Anyway, I always felt like more of a Buddhist or the like. God is not some man sitting in heaven making rules and judgements on humainty, which is how the church portrays him. God is not a him or a her, our spiritual being is also not him or her. We are all god, we are all part of the whole energy called God, The Creator, The Source, whatsoever you choose to call this unified energy consciousness of all things being one. Therefore, to answer your question, yes we as a unified consciousness of God, do all have the ability to change our future mind, yet yes, at least up until now the future unfolded as predicted. Make no mistake, the Bible is a book of enlightenment, astonomy and astrology, not ever meant to be a twisted version of fear, sin, control and power - it's all lies. God is within me and I'll never go to church again. My journey is not an outward journey to search for God, but an inward journey to search for myself. I know who God is, now i must find who i am, because the answers are within. We are 4th dimensional spiritual beings having a 3rd dimensional human experience, we never die (our conscious energy,) only the human body dies. We are amazing beings and don't even know it. Even new science is saying this and we are getting ready to have a huge shift on this planet from 3rd dimensional beings to 4th dimensional beings and mother earth shifts to a 4th dimensional planet as well. It would do people well to do some research on this subject, it's supposed to build up to and then happen in January 2014. Peace

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2012 12:58:08 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
My brother. Watch AQUARIUS: AGE OF EVIL ON YOUTUBE
If you have a problem with what hurts your heart, so does God, and He wont let such wicked deception stand. Come away from those who would have you believe it is ok n that ultimately your perception is wrong.
God hates what is WRONG and RIGHTLY so.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2012 1:08:08 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
What would pain a good hearted person is just. The fact that some would see the 'fault' of that being so as their own perception DISTANCES THEM FROM GOD! And those who are deceptive are going to disagree are going to tell u 'nicely' how you are wrong. . .even though by their tenants, nothing is really wrong. Stand your ground and watch how they HATE YOU! and see that Jesus is the WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2012 1:38:39 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
What would pain a good hearted person is just. The fact that some would see the 'fault' of that being so as their own perception DISTANCES THEM FROM GOD! And those who are deceptive are going to disagree are going to tell u 'nicely' how you are wrong. . .even though by their tenants, nothing is really wrong. Stand your ground and watch how they HATE YOU! and see that Jesus is the WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

Posted on Feb 14, 2012 1:48:57 PM PST
Andrew Cox says:
Seriously. People wana quote the bible and then mix it with some other doctrine. That is the new age desire!
If it was truth tho, ask why you quote from a scripture that tells you to put on specific armour. . . For what? It is either all true or it is corrupted. . .and if it is true, which I can PROVE, the EVERYTHING ELSE is corruption. So, dont come at me with your deceptive 'love'. His people GET THE MESSAGE.
you dont like it? Fine. Cus u hypocrites will be the 1s killing the people who rightly stand for what they will KNOW. and your judgement will be JUST.

Posted on Feb 14, 2012 1:56:18 PM PST
All this talk of hate, of corruption, of killing, deception, and judgement doesn't sound like the Christian God of LOVE.

Tell me Andrew, quote ONE THING that you consider the truth. How can you prove it? You keep making that claim, but don't back it up. Here's your big chance!

Posted on Feb 16, 2012 7:24:47 PM PST
If you're seeking help from Christians in order to approach God, then you're not dumb. I was an atheist myself once. Repenting for having been an enemy of God and then getting saved was the best decision I ever made; it is certainly the most fulfilling I ever made and it has led to true happiness for me.

Posted on Feb 17, 2012 1:50:21 PM PST
Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny make children happy too, but it has nothing to do with Christianity.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2012 8:21:16 PM PST
katajojo says:
great answer!
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